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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983 11-02 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes RegularMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION HELD ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 2, 1983, at 7:30 P.M. MEMBERS SCHEDULED: Chairman Bill Lewis, Gordon Johnson, Del Johnson, Helen McClelland, Mary McDonald, David.Runyan, John Palmer, Len Ring and John Bailey. STAFF PRESENT: Gordon Hughes, City Planner Fran Hoffman, City Engineer Linda Elsen, Secretary I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Mr. Palmer moved for approval ot_the minutes and Len Ring seconded the motion. All.were in favor; the minutes were approved. II. OLD BUSINESS; Z=-79--12 Revised Overall Development Plan for Dewey Hill, III PRD}3. Mr. Gordon -Hughes told the Commission that the subject property was rezoned to PRD -3 several years ago at which time a 114 unit condominium plan was approved. This plan illustrated two buildings -which were located on the westerly side and served by Shaughnessy Road and three buildings on the easterly side of the site served by a private road from West 78th Street. Construction of these buildings never commenced. Laukka and Associates, the proponent, now requests an amendment to the approved overall development plan. A revised plan has been submitted illustrating a 34 unit- townhouse development Twelve of the townhouses would front on Shaughnessy Road and the remaining 22 units would be served by a new public street extending northerly from West 78th Street. This proposed public street would be located somewhat easterly of the alignment previously proposed for the private road for the condominiums. As such, some retaining walls will be required along the east side of the road right of way due to steep slopes. Mr. Hughes pointed out that the previously approved condominium plan illustrated a cul de sac for the terminius of Glasgow Drive. This cul de sac was to be constructed on a previously dedicated right of way on the subject property. The proponent new proposal suggested that a cul de sac not be constructed and the previously dedicated right of way be vacated. However, upon Staff's recommendations, the proponents have recently submitted possible variations of the termination Glasgow Drive which they will present to the Commission. He reminded the Commmission and the Council that the setback of the condominium buildings._from the east property line was very controversial. The present townhouse plan follows closely the setbacks previously approved Page two for the condominiums with the most northeasterly four units. These units maintain a setback of 35 feet from the east property line which results in a spacing of about 60 feet to the nearest single family home on the north side of Glasgow Drive. The proposedculde sac for the new public street is located much closer to the single-family home on the north side of Glasgow Drive than the cul de sac for the private road previously proposed. The.travelled portion of the cul de sac maintains a 30 foot setback from the_east property line and a 50 foot spacing to the home on the south side of Glasgow. Mr. Hughes believes the proposed townhouse plan represents an excellent alternative use of the property. However, as previously noted, Staff's major criticism of this plan is'.d.irected at the proposal to _eliminate the Glasgow cul'de sac. There has been an attempt to correct dead end situations such as Glasgow with improved cul de sacs elsewhere in the.Ci,ty and can find no reason why a suitable terminus for this street cannot be provided With sucha modification, Mr. Hughes recommends approval conditioned upon: 1. Completion of land exchange.between the proponent and the City on the northerly portion of the site as was discussed in connection with the condominium plan. 2. Revision of the plan sheet concerning public utilities in `)�_*rance with the requirements of the Engineering Department. 3. The property be replatted with townhouse lots. Mr. Peter Jarvis, consultant, summarized the proposed project. The townhouse scheme would consist of one story elevations from the street view and two story elevations from the water side with the exception of the northeasterly homes which would be two stories from the street. There are thirty-four units. Construction would be completed in two phases with work originating from the west. Mr. Jarvis addressed the cul de sac issue and noted that a process of "looping the street" was considered unacceptable. He presented four alternatives for the cul de sac: 1. A 30 foot radius cul de sac located on the present right of way. 2.. A "hammer head" cul de sac also located on the present right of way. 3. A "hammer head" cul de sac located on the Dewey Hill III property. 4. A conventional cul de sac with one-half located on the Dewey Hill III property and one-half located on the present right of way. Mr. Jarvis discouraged the alternative of the traditional cul de Page three sac explaining that it would result in moving the project westerly and therefore relocating it in the pond. He encouraged the hammer head cul de sac. Mr. Gordon Johnson questioned the distance curb to curb in the conventional cul de sac. There is a distance of 20 feet. Mr. Bob Clarke 7701 Glasgow Drive, was concerned that the placement of a cul de sac would cause the loss of evergreen trees located on the boulevard. He would like to see a standard cul de sac so that cars would be able to turn around without the use of his drive way, and to allow for ease of snow plowing. Mr. Hoffman explained that snow plowing was not comfortable in any cul de sac. A 35 foot radius would be required. He noted that same problem for fire vehicles. Mr. Clark expressed his satisfication with the density. He mentioned, however, that the elevations may interfer with his westerly sunlight which is needed to activate the solar system to heat his pool. Gordon Johnson asked which cul de sacs would eliminate the evergreen trees on the boulevard. Mr. Hoffman noted that the the conventional cul de sac and the traditional cul de sac would. Gordon Johnson wondered what would happen if Glasgow was left as is. It seems it is apparently working now. Mr. Dominic Sciola, 7705 Glasgow Drive, welcomed a cul de sac a"s an improvement to the street. Mr. Clark was concerned about the amount property which would be needed in order to make the cul de sac. Mr. .Runyan noted that the land taken was in the right of way. Mr. Bill Lewis suggested that looping the street would be an ideal solution. Mr. Clark argued that increased traffic would become a problem. He noted that presently many cars come down the street only to turn around. Mr. Jarvis asked what the neighbors thought of the hammer head cul de sac. Mr. Clark had no objections. Mr. Earl Micka, 7700 Glasgow Drive, noted that presently the snow plows have to drive over the lawns and therefore, the sod is rutted up. Mr. Clark wondered what the dimensions were. Mr. Jarvis stated that the heads were 20 feet and the width of the cul de sac was 60 feet. Gordon Johnson assumed that the neighbors would be interested in a cul de sac that could allow for as much vegetation as possible to separate the homes from the townhouse project. Mr. Jarvis commented that the hammer head would be a more appealing a the design standpoint than a full cul de ,ac. Page four Mrs. McClelland noted the request of the proponent to move the road easterly near Glasgow. She wondered how much. She also wondered about the grade due to the fact the retaining walls were mentioned. Mr. Jarvis was unable to answer how much easterly the road was moved without reviewing the original plans, however, the relative grade is essentially the same. He noted that the street setback was in the range of 35 40 feet. Mrs. McClelland commented that the west side appeared considerably more open than the east side. Mr. Jarvis explained that it was within the setbacks. Del Johnson commented that he preferred the hammer head alternative which would be located on the Dewey Hill III property. Mr. Runyan noted that he believed this proposal to be far superior to the originally approved plan. He felt the hammer head alternative would resolve many problems. He moved for approval of the of the proposed plans subject to: the recommendations suggested by Staff; the hammer head cul de sac alternative which would be located on Dewey Hill III and that an elevation study is done on the northerly buildings in order to prevent them from interferring with Mr. Clark's sunlight for his solar panels. Mr. Palmer seconded the motion. All were in favor; the motion carried. III. New Business: LDj83411 Northern States Power. Part of the N.E1/4 of the NE1/4 of Section 28, Township 115N, Range 21 Mr. Hughes reported that the subject property is the site of the N.S.P. substation and service center. State law requires that the substation be valued by the State of Minnesota and the service center by the City of Edina for real estate tax purposes. The proponent requests the lot division in order to create two tax parcels for valuation purposes. The parcels resulting from the division comply with the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance. The request appears reasonable and should be approved. Mrs. McClelland moved for approval and Mr. Bailey seconded the motion. All were in favor; the motion carried. LD -83=12 Clark Construction; Lot 7, Block 1, Gleason Court Mr. Hughes said that the proponent is requesting a party wall division of a two-family dwelling. Individual utility connections are provided. He recommended approval. Mr. Palmer moved for approval and Mr. Ring seconded the motion. All were in favor; the motion carried. LD=83-13 Clark Construction; Lot 12, Block 7 Braemar Hills 9th Addition Page five Mr. Hughes stated that the proponent again is requesting a party wall division of a two..�family dwelling and that individual connections are provided. He recommended approval. Mr. Palmer moved for approval and Mr. Ring seconded the motion. All were in favor; the motion carried. Zoning Ordinance Mr. Hughes informed the Commission of a joint work session between the City Council and the Planning Commission scheduled for November 14 regarding the revised Zoning Ordinance, accessory apartments and conditional use permits for religious institutions. Mr. Hughes explained an executive summary''which outlined the revised Zoning Ordinance and reported that the revision of the Zoning Ordinance would appear on the November 30's Planning Commission agenda. Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan Mr. Hughes noted, -that this item would be continued on the November 30 agenda. IV. Adjournment Mr. Gordon Johnson moved for adjournment and Mrs. McClelland seconded the motion. All were.in favor; the meeting was adjourned.