HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987 07-01 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes RegularMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON WEDNESDAY, JULY 1, 1987 AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS ATTENDING: Chairman William Lewis, John Bailey,
Phil Sked, Helen McClelland, Del Johnson,
Gordon Johnson, David Runyan, Virginia
Shaw and Lee Johnson
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Palmer and Jane Paulus
STAFF PRESENT: Craig Larsen, City Planner
Jackie Hoogenakker, Secretary
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Mr. Del Johnson moved for approval of the May 27, 1987
Community Development and Planning Commission meeting minutes.
Mr. Gordon Johnson seconded the motion. All were in favor. The
motion carried.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
S-87-7 Preliminary Plat for Rolling Green Parkway
Addition by Charles D. Luther
General Location: West of Rolling Green Parkway and south of
Annaway Drive
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the subject property is a
developed single family lot containing 97,953 square feet, or
2.25 acres. The proponent has submitted a request to subdivide
the property in order to create one new buildable lot. Mr.
Larsen added the existing dwelling would be removed.
Mr. Larsen pointed out the new lots would be 48,977 square
feet and 48,976 square feet in area. Both lots would have in
excess of 280 feet of street frontage. Lot 1, would be
approximately 280 feet in depth and lot 2 approximately 310
feet. Both lots are approximately 210 feet wide at the required
front yard setback line.
Mr. Larsen, using graphics, pointed out lot sizes for nine
lots which most directly relate to the subject property. The
lots vary in size from 39,000 square feet to 75,200 square feet,
with an average size of 50,500 square feet.
Mr. Larsen noted the block containing the subject property
originally contained six. lots. Presently there are nine lots in
the block. While many divisions in the area occurred before
houses were constructed, the Replat of Lot 30 and the Bush Replat
were divisions of developed lots.
Mr. Larsen told the Commission the subject property was
proposed for subdivision in 1977. The major difference between
that proposal and the current proposal is the status of the
existing home. The 1977 proposal would have retained the home.
As a consequence the new lot was significantly smaller than the
new lot in the current proposal.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the
preliminary plat for the following reasons:
1. The proposed lots are generally comparable in size with
existing lots in the vicinity.
2. The proposed street frontage and lot width at the
building line are in keeping with other lots in the vicinity.
3. With lots widths in excess of 200 feet at the building
line it is possible to build even very large homes and still
maintain large side yard setbacks.
4. The proposed subdivision will not adversely impact the
character and symmetry of the area.
The proponents Mr. and Mrs. Charles David Luther were
present. Residents of the area were present.
Mr. Luther told the Commission he concurred with staff's
report. He added in his opinion the proposal to remove the
existing home would be a great improvement for the area.
Continuing, Mr. Luther said he felt the property is not
undersized and the proposed subdivision is in keeping with the
character of the Rolling Green neighborhood.
Mr. Gordon Johnson asked Mr. Luther if footprint(s) have
been developed for the proposed site(s). Mr. Luther said one
footprint has been developed. Mr. Gordon Johnson and Mrs.
McClelland questioned why the proposed center lot line jogs
toward the rear of the property. Mr. Luther replied that the
reason for the jog is to create a more private backyard for the
prospective property owner. Mr. Gordon Johnson said in his
opinion this proposed line creates a neck lot. Mrs. McClelland
suggested that the property in question be divided equally siting
as an example the division of the lot across the street. Mr.
Luther indicated he is willing to re -align the lot lines to
create equal lots.
Mr. Kip Knelman, 4812 Rolling Green Parkway, submitted to
the Commission a petition in opposition to the proposal. Mr.
Knelman then spoke in opposition to the proposal. His reasons
are summarized as follows:
1. The Rolling Green area represents very unique
characteristics, the foremost characteristic is
significant lot size per dwelling.
2. Approving this proposal would set a precedent.
3. Approval of this proposal would reverse the precedent
of denial set in 1977.
4. Concern over residents who reside in the area on over-
size lots that may wish to subdivide if this is approved.
(Mr. Knelman mentioned those who did not sign the petition
opposing the subdivision may want in the future to divide
their lots).
5. Approval of this proposal would favor developers.
b. Want tradition to remain as is, a neighborhood of
high character single family dwellings.
7. The majority of the residents are very much against
any subdivision in the area.
Mr. Raymond Clausen, 4820 Rolling Green Parkway said he
strongly opposes any subdivision request, he said this proposal
was denied in 1977 and it should be denied again. He pointed out
the odd shape of the lot and feels subdividing this lot would
create two terrible lots.
Mrs. McClelland pointed out this proposal is very different
from the previous proposal in 1977 adding it is very difficult to
compare them. The previous subdivision if approved would have
one lot with the total square footage of only 34,200 square
feet. The proposed lots have in excess of 48,000 square feet.
Mrs. Susan Knelman, 4812 Rolling Green Parkway stressed how
important it is to residents of this neighborhood to maintain the
characteristics of large lots per dwelling and large spacing
between dwellings. She -stated she is very opposed to this
proposal because it would set a precedent. Mrs. Knelman asked
the Commission to note her property lies directly southeast of
the property in question and her home maintains a 94 foot front
yard setback. She added she would want any proposed dwelling in
line with her home. Mrs. Knelman commented the majority of
subdivisions that have occurred in the Rolling Green area
happened extremely early (1950's) and oftentimes when original
house construction was occurring.
Mr. Gordon Johnson asked Mr. Larsen if it would be possible
to provide square footage for a majority of lots in the area.
Mr. Larsen responded that it would be possible. Mr. Gordon
Johnson said this information would help him make a educated
decision regarding the proposal.
Mr. K. Ellenberg of 4725 Annaway Drive stated he strongly
opposes the proposal and feels profit is the reason for the
proposed subdivision. He added it is not appropriate for the
neighborhood.
Mr. Arby Sumnstrom, representing Mr. and Mrs. Carl Pohlad
of 4812 Bywood West stated Mr. and Mrs. Pohlad are very opposed
to the proposed subdivision. Mr. Luther said he does not feel
his request is unreasonable, he pointed out the lots, in his
opinion are in keeping with the character of the neighborhood.
Mr. Luther added he understood that each proposal brought before
the Commission was looked at and considered individually.
Mrs. Stephanie Keane, 4817 Bywood West said she
purchased a home in the neighbhorhood that is a result of a
subdivision and recommends denial of the proposal. She added the
character of this neighborhood should be preserved. 0
A brief discussion ensued between Commission Members
regarding tabling S-87-7 until more data has been complied by
staff.
Mr. Gordon Johnson moved to table S-87-7 requesting staff to
prepare a comparison of lot sizes in the Rolling Green
neighborhood, to prepare a memo listing subdivisions that have
been approved or denied after the initial Rolling Green plat was
finaled and the developer is to submit a revised plat adjusting
the lot line to more equally divide the lot. Mr. Lee Johnson
seconded the motion. All were in favor. The motion carried.
LD -87-10
6506-6507 Gleason Court
Mr. Larsen informed the Commission the proponent is
requesting a party wall division of an existing double bungalow.
Separate utility connections are provided.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval.
Mrs. McClelland moved to recommend approval. Mr. Sked
seconded the motion. All were in favor. The motion carried.
0 IIIā¢ ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 5:10 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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