HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990-08-01 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes Regular (2)A G E N D A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 1, 1990, AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
May 30, 1990
II. OLD BUSINESS•
S-90-4 Preliminary Plat Approval for Lindell Addition.
Steven Lindell. 7017 Antrim Road
III. NEW BUSINESS•
Z-90-5 Preliminary Rezoning. Jerry's Enterprises/Opus
PID, Planned Industrial District to PCD -2,
Planned Commercial District
Generally
Located: South of Eden Avenue and west of Soo Line
railroad tracks
Amendment to
Zoning Ordinance
No. 825/Home
Occupations Dr. Joyce Anderson, 7121 Glouchester
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
August 29, 1990
V.
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 27, 1990, AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gordon Johnson, Robert Hale, Helen
McClelland, Nan Faust, Lee Johnson, D. Byron,
G. Workinger, Virginia Shaw, C. Ingwalson
MEMBERS ABSENT: John Palmer, David Runyan
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Mr. Ingwalson moved for approval of the May 30, 1990, Community
Development and Planning Commission Meeting Minutes. Commisioner
Hale seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
Comprehensive Plan Amendment: Opus Corporation, Jerry's
Enterprises, Industrial to
Commercial
Z-90-5, Preliminary Rezoning: PID, Planned Industrial to
PCD -2, Planned Commercial
General Location: South of Eden Avenue and west
of Soo Line Rail Tracks
This item was continued to the August 1, 1990, meeting.
5-90-4 Preliminary Plat Approval, Lindell Addition.
Lot 1, Block 1, Danen's Meadows. 7017 Antrim
Road. Steven Lindell
Chairman Johnson pointed out discrepancies in the size of the lot
before subdivision and the size of the resulting two lots. It was
noted that the staff report indicates a lot size of 76,500 square
feet in area, it should read 66,500 square feet in area.
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Mr. Larsen presented his staff report noting the property is a
developed single family lot of 66,500 square feet. The lot for the
existing house would have an area of 35,500 square feet. The lot
for the proposed new lot contains a lot area of 31,000 square feet.
Both lots exceed the median size and dimensions of the 500 foot
neighborhood. No variances are required.
Mr. Larsen concluded that conditions for preliminary approval are:
1. Final Plat Approval
2. Subdivision Dedication
3. Utility Connection Charges
4. New Drainage from roof and other hard surface areas must be
directed out to Antrim Road. This would be a condition imposed at
the building permit stage.
The proponent, Mr. Lindell, and interested neighbors were present.
Commissioner McClelland and Commisioner L. Johnson questioned Mr.
Lindell if he has a house plan in mind for the proposed new lot.
Mr. Lindell said at this time there is nothing on the drawing board
portraying house plans. He added the logic behind this is because
he feels house plans should be left up to the future buyer of the
proposed lot.
Commissioner Hale said he has a concern about the outbuildings that
are pesent at this time on the property. He indicated he feels all
buildings should be removed as a condition of approval.
Mr. Lindell said all outbuildings will be removed. He added he
would like the Commission to exempt from removal the large carriage
house that has been renovated. He said he would prefer to leave it
up to the future lot owner if they want the carriage house to
remain or be razed.
Commisioner McClelland clarified that the Ordinance addresses the
number of buildings on site as they relate to setbacks, building
coverage, etc. She added that she believes all buildings, except
maybe for the carriage house, will have to be removed to comply
with the ordinance.
Commissioner L. Johnson said that if the proposal is approved, he
would like to see the south line that slopes be controlled with
silt fencing during construction. He pointed out this would
prevent any soil damage or runoff onto adjacent neighbors property
and protect the natural character of the land.
Mr. Steven Herman, 7021 Shannon Drive, told the Commission there
are four outbuildings on the property, adding he would appreciate
it, if the Commission could ensure that all buildings, except for
the carriage house be removed. He noted there is a rather small
red building that he views out his window that could be easily
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forgotten due to it's remote placement on the Lindell lot.
Mr. Henry Langer, 7001 Antrim Road, told the Commission he cannot
support the proposal if it were to cause water runoff problems for
his property. He explained that he lives in a low area along
Antrim Road and every time there is rather substantial rainfall the
water runs off Antrim Road, down his driveway, and has in the past,
caused his landscaping to be ruined.
Mr. Larsen explained that the drainage issue has been examined only
on a preliminary basis. He said staff support of this proposal is
contingent upon endorsement by the City Engineer and also at the
building permit stage that no water runoff problems would be
created as a result of construction of a new house to adjoining
neighbors.
Commissioner McClelland said she thought this area was reviewed by
the City Engineer because of the water problems that have been
present in the past. She asked if there is a new manhole near the
Langer property. Mr. Langer said there is a new drain by the
driveway and the City has done some slopping of the curb, but these
solutions do not seem to handle the runoff as fast as they should.
Mrs. Shari Herman, 7021 Shannon Drive, told the Commission her
property has an existing runoff problem. She added there is a
cistern located in the rear yard of the property in question, and
in that area storm water seems to gather. She pointed out that on
her property there is a low spot where water also ponds. Mrs.
Herman explained that under her property a culvert was constructed
to help with water runoff problems. Mrs. Herman told the
Commission as a result of her and her husbands inquiries the
cistern was plugged with cement which prevents water when it rains
from bubbling up and out of the top of cistern. She expressed a
concern that if a house is erected on the new lot, the water
problems could become aggravated, and their property would suffer
as a result. Mrs. Herman noted that during a rain storm water
just shoots down Antrim Road.
Mr. Herman told the Commission there is a property on Shannon Drive
that has had to wall up the northeast corner of their basement to
prevent water from running in.
Mr. Larsen commented that he shares their concerns regarding
drainage and reiterated that staff does not want their water
problems aggravated as a result of this proposal. Mr. Larsen told
Mr. and Mrs Herman and Mr. Langer that they should speak to Mr.
Fran Hoffman, City Engineer about their reoccurring water problems.
It was suggested that another possible condition of approval would
be that the water problems have to be addressed before approval of
this project could be given. Commissioner L. Johnson said in his
opinion, that is not really a fair condition for the proponent. He
added a condition that is fair is that if subdivision approval is
granted the result is that drainage would not be aggravated for
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adjacent property owners. Commissioner Shaw agreed that the
proponent should be responsible for water runoff being contained on
his property but he should not have to be responsible for the water
problems that are currently in the area.
Mr. Ralph Linvill, 7005 Antrim Road, told the Commission he has a
concern regarding curb cuts on West 70th Street. He pointed out
the lot is question has an easement that runs through the property
to West 70th Street. He added West 70th Street is a busy street
and he cannot support an increase in curb cuts on that street. Mr.
Linvill suggested that Antrim Road be the access/egress for the new
lot.
A discussion ensued with the Commission agreeing that this proposal
has concerns that have to be addressed before a building permit is
issued. Commisioner Hale said he feels the City Engineer should
really look into the current water problems in the area.
Commissioner Ingwalson said a drainage engineer should be the one
that studies the current problems regarding water runoff. He added
a motion for approval with strict conditions could maybe get things
started and a solution found for area residents.
Commissioner L. Johnson moved to recommend preliminary approval
subject to staff conditions 1-3, and a change to condition 4 to
read: New drainage from roof and other hard surface areas must be
studied and investigated by the City Engineer so as not to cause
aggravation to abutting property owners. This condition would be
imposed at the building permit stage and reviewed by a drainage
engineer. Commissioner L. Johnson also recommended the following
new conditions: Condition 5 recommending that the new lot have
access only on Antrim Road. Condition 6 recommending that the
south line (slope) be controlled with silt fencing during
construction. Commissioner Hale seconded the motion. Ayes; Hale,
Faust, L. Johnson, McClelland, Shaw, Workinger, Ingwalson, Byron,
G. Johnson. Motion carried.
III. OTHER BUSINESS:
Jupiter and Beyond, An Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan.
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Mr. Larsen told the Commission Jupiter and Beyond has been
developed for the Community Facilities Element of the Comprehensive
Plan. He explained to the Commission he would like their comments
on the plan and their recommendation to adopt the plan to pass on
to the City Council.
Mr. Larsen introduced Mr. Bob Kojetin, Director of Park and
Recreation, who was present to answer any questions the Commission
may have regarding the plan.
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Mr. Kojetin told the Commission the "ball was put into motion"
about three years ago when a survey was mailed out to all the
residents of the City. The results of the survey were assembled
and are reflected in the plan. Mr. Kojetin pointed out the plan
clearly shows open space and park property, explains the Park
Departments goals and objectives, explains the mission statements
of the different aspects within the park department, it's
financing, future improvements, and programming, etc.
Commissioner L. Johnson asked Mr. Kojetin if there are any more
proposals for trailways and sidewalks. Mr. Kojetin said at this
time they have established bike and walking railways for Cornelia
Park and Bredesen Park, and there are walking paths located in
other parks. Mr. Kojetin said sidewalks have become a
consideration in some neighborhoods, at this time, the
neighborhoods petition for sidewalks and are assessed for them.
Commissioner L. Johnson questioned the creation of York Park. He
pointed out there seems to be a large number of senior living in
that area that could probably use a "different" type of park. Mr.
Kojetin explained that York Park was established in cooperation
with the City of Richfield. The Edina section of the park was used
more or less as the "summer" park, while Richfield was used as the
"winter" park. Mr. Kojetin agreed that York Park has an abundance
of senior living in the vicinity. He added the Park Department is
looking into the future and the changing age of the population.
He pointed out the park is used often by the YMCA and the children
of Yorkdale Townhomes.
Commissioner L. Johnson asked Mr. Kojetin to inform the Commission
of what is available at Braemar. Mr. Kojetin said Braemar
consists of the Arena, 18 hole golf course, 9 hole executive
course, driving range, indoor gun and trap range, four ballfields,
tennis courts, soccer/football field, archery range, nature
preserve, walking paths, indoor golf dome, picnic, playground area,
and the club house with banquet facilities.
Commissioner Faust asked Mr. Kojetin if Braemar Golf Course was
self supporting. Mr. Kojetin responded that it is. Commissioner
Faust complemented Mr. Kojetin on the excellent youth golf program
that is available at Braemar.
Commissioner Shaw congratulated Mr. Kojetin and the park staff on
the hard work that went into the development of Jupiter and Beyond,
and the good management of the parks and services provided.
Commissioner Shaw said Jupiter and Beyond is a "good piece of
work".
The Commission unanimously endorsed adoption of the amendment
(Jupiter and Beyond) to the Community Facilities Element of the
Comprehensive Plan.
Commissioner Shaw moved to recommend to the Council adoption of
Jupiter and Beyond as an amendment to the Community Facilities
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Element of the Comprehensive Plan. -Commissioner Hale seconded the
motion. All voted aye. Motion carried.
IV. AWOURNMENT•
The meeting adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
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