HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-01-29 Planning Commission Meeting Minutes RegularAGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON WEDNESDAY, )ANUARY 29, 1997
7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
December 5, 1996
II. NEW BUSINESS:
P-97-1 Final Development Plan
3700 West 69th Street
Southdale Center
III. NEXT MEETING DATE:
February 26, 1997
IV. AD]OURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF
THE EDINA PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 29, 1997
7:30 P.M., EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Acting Chair, Helen McClelland, David Byron, Ann Swenson, Charles
Ingwalson, Lorelei Bergman
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Gordon Johnson, David Runyan, Geof Workinger
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Commissioner Ingwalson moved approval of the December 5, 1996,
meeting minutes. Commissioner Swenson seconded the motion. All voted aye;
motion carried.
II. NEW BUSINESS:
P-97-1 FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN
3700 WEST 60TH STREET
SOUTHDALE CENTER
Mr. Larsen reminded the Commission in the Spring of 1995, they
considered development of this site with a Boston Market restaurant. Continuing,
Mr. Larsen said the plan presented this evening is very similar to the plan submitted
for review in 1995. Mr. Larsen reported the 1995 plan was not reviewed by the
City Council.
Mr. Larsen pointed out there are to changes in the new plan. First there will
no direct access to the site from West 69th Street. Access will be from the one-
way ring road system of the center. Second, the loading and trash areas are flip-
flopped. This will make it less likely that delivery trucks will interfere with the ring
road.
Mr. Larsen concluded staff recommends approval of the Final Development
Plan. The rearrangement of the loading dock area and the removal of the West
69th Street access make this plan superior to the earlier proposal.
The proponent Leland Hicks, representing Boston Market was present, Peter
Hilger architect for the project was also present.
Commissioner Swenson asked Mr. Larsen what he feels the advantage is in
not having a curb cut on West 69th Street. Mr. Larsen said staff would rather
have vehicles stacking on private property, not public.
Mr. Peter Hilger, architect introduced himself to the Commission and
explained the trash enclosure has been moved to create more distance from the
one-way ring -road as recommended by the Commission. Continuing, Mr. Hilger
explained Boston Market is served by a smaller front loading trash vehicle, and with
the location change there should be no problems with trash pick-up interfering with
the routine traffic on the ring -road. Mr. Hilger also asked the Commission to note
the majority of food deliveries will occur in the early a.m., and are made with small
delivery trucks. Mr. Hilger pointed out the change in access and explained one
parking space was eliminated which created a more efficient comfortable turning
point.
Commissioner McClelland questioned where employees will park. Mr. Hicks
said employees will be parking off-site, adding we hope to secure a cross -parking
easement with Southdale.
Commissioner McClelland commented on the shortage of one parking
space. Mr. Larsen explained if this site were in a stand alone situation it would be
one short, but because the City views this site with Southdale's parking spaces, the
number of spaces provided is adequate. Continuing, Mr. Larsen said cross -
easement parking, and snow storage issues at this time are under negotiation
between the proponent and the Center.
Commissioner McClelland commented there is only one drive aisle that
services the trash and loading areas, and questioned if the majority of delivery
vehicles are small vans as explained by Mr. Hilger. Mr. Hicks said the majority of
delivery vehicles are small vans, but large Cisco semi -trucks are also used. The
semi -trucks will deliver during the early a.m. hours, and because of the relocation
of the delivery door, the larger semi should not block the ring -road.
Commissioner Swenson asked if Boston Market would be willing to provide
lighting for employees who have to cross the ring -road to get to their vehicles.
Mr. Hilger said within the site the walk -way can be extended to the perimeter
providing safer pedestrian crossing. Mr. Hicks interjected the personal safety of
Boston Market employees is very important, and we would be willing to provide
more lighting if needed.
Commissioner McClelland asked the number of light standards planned for
the site. Mr. Hilger said there are six light standards proposed, and there are
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additional lights on the building. Mr. Hilger stated if needed an additional light
standard can be placed near the employee cross -walk area.
Commissioner Swenson asked Mr. Hicks what door is used by employees
when they exit the building after hours. Mr. Hicks said Boston Market operates
on a buddy system for trash removal, and all employees leave by the front door.
Commissioner McClelland asked if Boston Market would be willing to place
a light standard near the employee cross -walk. Mr. Hilger said in quickly reviewing
the plan a light standard is located at the trash area, and it could be made a
double headed light standard which would provide more lighting at the cross -walk
area.
Commissioner Swenson commented on the proposed vegetation,
questioning if it is low near the entrance/exit. Mr. Larsen responded city staff is
carefully reviewing this area so it complies with clear view and stacking, adding
there is a possibility there may be revisions in this area. Mr. Larsen added staff
also reviews the type of vegetation planted in this area, so we are comfortable it
will not compromise clear view into and out of the site.
Commissioner Byron commented he is a bit surprised by the discussion this
evening, pointing out when Boston Market last visited the Commission, the
Commission was adamant that Southdale Center provide us with their future plans
for potential redevelopment of the other ring -road free standing sites.
Mr. Larsen responded at this time from discussions with Southdale Center
they have indicated there are no immediate plans for ring -road expansion, except
on the subject site.
Commissioner McClelland acknowledged there is possible redevelopment of
the Midas and Firestone site. Mr. Larsen said that is correct with the Midas site
the site that most likely could be redeveloped.
Commissioner Byron asked Mr. Larsen if there are limiting factors that could
come into play to ensure orderly development of the outlots on the ring -road.
Mr. Larsen explained the subject site is so small (along with the other ring -road
outlots), that their redevelopment doesn't even touch the limitations of the site.
Mr. Larsen said only a major redevelopment of the Center itself would possibly
trigger parking concerns. Mr. Larsen concluded the City has in place the Final
Development Plan process which affords the City some control.
Commissioner Byron asked if because of our Ordinance more outlot
development (besides Midas/Firestone) could occur around the ring -road. Mr.
Larsen agreed that is true. Continuing, Mr. Larsen said Southdale Center has
always been very up -front with the City, and in the past always worked well with
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staff on any redevelopment. Continuing, Mr. Larsen noted past input from the
Center has always been that ring -road development is limited.
Commissioner Ingwalson asked if the City still can control ring -road
redevelopment even if the site can support more. Mr. Larsen reiterated the City
has control because of the Final Development Plan process.
Commissioner Ingwalson added he has some comfort because the City has
control through the Final Development Plan process, and in his opinion the anchor
tenants would have to agree to any redevelopment, and would not want to see
something constructed that would compete with them, or block their presence
from the main streets.
Mr. Larsen agreed, he said the City has their control mechanism with the
Final Development Plan, and the Center also has internal control mechanisms.
Concluding, Mr. Larsen said in order for more redevelopment to occur along the
ring -road there needs to be a lot of internal sign -offs.
Commissioner Bergman asked who owns the subject site. Mr. Larsen said
the subject site is owned by the Center, noting at this time the Center is in the
process of being sold.
Commissioner Byron asked if the site will be owned by Boston Market or
will be leased. Mr. Larsen said Boston Market has a lease agreement with the
Center.
Commissioner Byron reiterated this item was tabled a year and one half ago,
adding he feels uncomfortable with making a decision especially since Southdale
Center itself is facing a change in ownership. Continuing, Commissioner Byron
asked if the ring -road system has sidewalks, and if the road was not constructed
With sidewalks ,maybe commercial is not a good option for both sides of the road.
Mr. Larsen stated that hopefully this site is self contained for its clients. He
added the situation is not ideal, but agreed the safety of clients is important. Mr.
Larsen said the Engineering Department will review the site for safety issues for
vehicles and pedestrians.
Commissioner Swenson asked if the City can recommend a pedestrian cross-
walk over the ring -road. Commissioner McClelland interjected and questioned
Mr. Hicks on the number of employees that will be parking in the leased spaces.
Mr. Hicks said the number of employees parking in this area during the day and
evening will fluctuate between 10 and 20 employees. Continuing, Commissioner
McClelland asked if a pedestrian flashing light standard would be appropriate at
the pedestrian cross -walk. Mr. Larsen said it is not unreasonable to require a
pedestrian cross -walk and light standard.
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Commissioner Swenson moved to recommend Final Development Plan
approval subject to staff conditions with the additional conditions of adding a
pedestrian cross -walk ,increasing the lighting at the pedestrian cross -walk and
adding a light standard noting a pedestrian cross -walk. This cross -walk is to be
located near the employee parking area. Commissioner Bergman seconded the
motion. Ayes; Bergman, Swenson, Ingwalson, McClelland. Nay, Byron. Motion
carried.
III. OTHER BUSINESS:
Land Use and Planning and Zoning Ordinance No. 850.15. Subd. 5.
Requirements for Building Coverage, Setbacks and Height.
Mr. Larsen explained to Members of the Commission when reviewing the
Zoning Ordinance a typo was noticed in Section 850.15, Subd. 5, and read;
POD -1- 4 stories or 50 feet whichever is greater. The greater should be changed
to less. The amendment to the Zoning Ordinance corrects the typo.
Commissioner Byron moved to amend the Ordinance, correcting the typo.
Commissioner Ingwalson seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
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