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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1970 01=-7 Planning Commission Packets40 HINi3TES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF T11Z EDIEJA PLANNING C=4ISSION HMD WEDNESDAY, JANUAU 7, 1970 SOUTiI VIEW JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL Flombers Present: W. W. Lewis, Chairman; Sats Hughes, R. A. Huelster, A. H. Hiatt, Cliff Jolmson, David Griswold and George Nugent Staff Present: Fred Hoisington, Thomas Loucks and Debby Donley 1. Western Edina Discussion Hr. Hoisington made a brief presentation as to background, planning procedure, and the plan itself. He indicated that the purpose of this Meeting was to again hear the residents of Western Edina and afterward for the Planning commission to adopt an overall plan. Mr. Jack Ziegler, spokesman for the Western Edina Homeowners Asso-ciation, pointed out three things that the Association felt pertinent: (1) the land in question should be developed for future residents; (2) developer should make a fair profit; and (3) consideration should be given the existing homeowner. lie pointed out they oppose the plan because there is no real need for a shopping center. Why? Because in a survey made approximately two years ago, results were inconclusive. Also, they greatly object to the widening of Vernon Avenue to a four lane street. He then submitted a plan prepared and supported by the Association calling for Vernon Avenue to dead end past Walnut Drive. The plass also called for R-1 development west of the existing houses on Walnut Drive and loci density nultiple developments south of Fabri-Tek along County Road 18. A gentleman from the audience asked if the widening of Vernon Avenue would result in curbs and gutters, what the street size Would be, and the speed limit. fir. Boisington reported that the overall plan is conceptual in form, but that Vernon Avenue would be 48 feet wide, have curb and gutter, regulated speed, improved signs', improved alignment, and no median, according to the plan. Mr. Hoisington stated the reason for inprosing Vernon Avenue was the unstafeness of the street. Mr. Griswold moved to approve the proposed plan in essence with the re:servati©n that there be no inferred approval of a rezoiiiaig of any land at the -iratersection of County Road 18 and the Crosstown Highway for commercial purposes and that there be no inferred approval on action to widen Vernon Avenue unless in each instance there may be proved a logical aid proper reason to do so in the future. Fir. Fugent indicated that he is in agreement with the plan with the exception of the recommended commercial development and four lanes on 1,'n1:non Avenue. Air. Nugeut thus seconded the notion with the follosing changes: that the co nf�rcial district be eliminated, that this area be clsanged to medium density neul- iple residential, the same as surrounding lauds, and that Vernon Avenue retrain two lanes wide. Edina Planning Comission Minutes -2- January 7, 1970 Thr. Tom Turner expressed his concern about the widening of Interlachen Blvd. to 36 feet. Mr. Turner also asked if their taxes are used for street maintenance of Village streets since they live on a county maintained roadway. Mr. Hoisington answered yes. Mr. Turner also questioned the reason the people on this street are assessed tastes when their street is not maintained by the Village. He asked that a ,survey be taken to determine who uses Interlachen Blvd. Chairman Lewis answered Mr. Turner and stated that there are no plans for changing Interlachen Blvd. or Maloney Avenue at"present. Fir. Rolland Toenges expressed concern over the placement of an interchange at Maloney and County Road 18. Chairman Lewis informed him the Comission has no control over the placing of this facility. Chairman Lewis then asked for a vote on the motion made by Mr. Griswold. All Voted Aye. Motion Carried. 11. LkRAroval of December 3, 1969 Commission Minutes Motion was made to approve the minutes of December 3, 1969 by Mr. Nugent and seconded by Mr. Huelster. Motion Carried. Adjourr.,ment at 9:15 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Deborah Donley, Secretary Pro Tem A It. 'a, In Z -x I Village of Edina 4801 WEST FIFTIETH STREET * EDINA 24, MINNESOTA WALNUT 7-8861 Nvid zt,emoj V11.1ag cct-uc4ll and CT." 3 ;-vfhilc you hieve 110,:, 7 w F. mnmri -1, 8 moi'''.. 01 On r,re a p 1.,,2 p E. r i n -, the J Inu --ne k3pecl,"ic, jj�, -i,- - articles en "Flannin 'X 0i: Lr.k�-% T'ar," ca the El -cat Page. -C 01 nncl �,Iurl )- Ie ar CA e.no, is 1,7e lop, u t al.31 relate t r, wa, p n -0 ev-er hwic-- in 3 1 of -yembo 6 V rx� � r 2 , 19 P:.:,}_? 4 Ci p - jjC',- 12 --,e Cu viace mal-ly Ope'd 1"tn 1'n, :e- t,_ L e, �f:3t�a`r:i:I.bl oft i'c', !.Lve,n 1,'!1c-u%h most 0-1, 1 tqo! I, lc�, t. C� c DC-k�`, U "J, be Secretive to,1.i' in acquiring the -ie --C, n thvrz pc:;Zr W,- Januanzy <, ,,l0 Ams-:er: To :rate, the Village has acquired 143.6 acres at a cost of $496,589.85. rare- parcels are yet to be acquired which total approxim_;tely 22 acres. $/:26,589.85 came fro -in liquor fund revenues, "20,000 from the Nine Mile Creek Watershed District, and $50,000 from Heunepiu County., € ;estion 3: if these 8 acres of under -water property are so "vit:al" to the 11.ark Project, why didn't the. Vildz e purchase this key area BEFORE spending funds for the other 150 acres? Couldn't a "squeeze play" be anticipated as time wore on, and property values increased? Anq-ear, Quite obviously, there has to be a last piece of property to be sacqutred for any such projvct. As the number cf parcels remaining to acquire becw.es fewer, the mere committed the Village becomes and consequently, the price goes up. The last parcels are always the most difficult to purchase. The total. project, requirid that we p.3rchase 16 sepa_ratc parcels and Olsen just happens to be ane of the last ones. HaAve acquired Olsen !First, we would simply have the same problem sommewhere els:. Such a "squeeze play", as you term it, undoubtedly is a fact: of life. ,tea gILI(. Vis: IF the Vill=age accepts Fir. Olsen's deal of 8 acres in exchange for rezoning the remaining 16 acres for multiple dwellings, what is to prevent Mr. Olsen from turning a:,-ound and selling his property to a developer, who has no intention of constructing such a "Utopia0°? Mr. Olsen has subsequently (admitted that, at this point:, he is not sure wht--.-tber he will develop it himself. SO WHY ALL THE DISCUSSION WHICH LED US TO BELIEVE HE 1,701MD? Rao Mr. Olsen offered to give the 8 acres cif under -water unusable property to Edina t+'ITHIOUT the raresning;, card .t ion? Answer: The ag~-eeme=at does not contemplate rezoning the remaining 16 acres. for multiple dwellings. This acreag would be raze ned for torr_ahouse;s, which are much more si-milar to conventional homes than to apartments, since they are really single family residences joined € ogether, by a c= -non wall. Moreover, the restrictive cove.aznts whicn would be received grl= Olsen pa.rsuFant to the agreement will be binding up,3n him and all 3sibsequcnt c. Lers of the property. Mr. Olsen h. -ss not offered to give this property* to Edina without the rezoning condition and could not be: e:.Kpcct ad to dad soca. The property, moreover, is not "t,:aaaso ble''. if it gyre rezoned by she Council or by a court, the acreage would be usable: in that .its exist-:. i a could be take g inti::- account as open space in applying the ds" noity requirements of the ordinance Lo determine ho-wr many units could be co ria-.zmcted on the reg ni.a_:ne, land. vection 55: What led �ir. Olsen to purcara3sc thjit "unsuitable" piece of property, aanEit fr_,r single reaidence3, in Pit area zoni:!d 1'or afngle residences only? Was it pc3SS.hlc luva , l.edg,r iva 1953 th t this l.rT,M wa5- going to be vital to the 1-lud Lake Park a ojn"t (and Lo €h-;:� t~rCicat u--,,T'f hlt`h'a c-'fi e�iur„, e ^: T'he se is no of 3cnawir-t; Mr. Ol;san`s m-nti.ves for originally buying V- � iC- -ty. . ktib� e"m ro: e, tha ir.Atei;t and tiott ,ves of the laud purchaser are not neti.f i.� po-i-taxa : to th- setsAelz.ent of ti -,e issue. We mast treat all people equally whether they are speculators or noa-_npeacula3toao. Only the facts, as they exist te,d'.'.y;, are relevant; not mntives. Il -le Mud Lake! Plaits were not in being in 1958. Then � wer a plarmo available- <,s3 to the p-,.-ogcsc3 general lecation of the Crosstown. 1 e.Je 2 i;iEt:Stix `j -6, 1973 !C�kjcsrirwx s Why does the Village Council try so hard to convince the public, if Mr. Olsen doer indeed take the matter to Court, that the Court will probably judge UA -tat Mr. Oloen should not be deprived of the opportunity to realize a top-doilzar profit on his investment (even though his investment was made with the full knowledge that some "changes" would have to be made in rezoning)? Is it "the lay,* of the land" that an individual can "hold oast", for an exhorbitant sum, on property purchased in hopes that conditions would be changed? fine ern 'Llik- Vilinge Council is very simply attelipt:ing to make it clear that the results rf ,a court action, are less certrAn than the germs of the present agreement with 'Mr. Olsen. This ass esEuent of the situation is 'cased on sound legal advise from our Village Attornneye, the firm of Dorsey, Marquart, Windhorst, West & Hailaday. We believe It better to resolve the matter in a way that achieves for the Village the property it needs and a restricted use of the balance of Mr. Olsen's property to ea degree and in aa. manner a court could not accomplish. Such a resolution of the zinc -ter, :e believe, is preferable to a court action, should that come about, ;:and the unpredictable result of sucb aaa action. s; ela.�s.:!on L- U':rr_lang .,gAl :fit take before the "dream will be a finished project? Ulho "dreaiyd up" the mai that was said to have been displayed prominently in the Hall, picturing such facilities? By whose authority was it displayed? Harr can sp ud L.ake Parc be co asidered by the Mayor to be a "neighborhood park" if it is to be fully developed (as iu the "dream" map) at such a large sum of money and financed by UJ, ''s Binaresidents? If it i.:, do -aa "properly" (as originally planned) it w3.7 t)eco-ne %n attraction to all.. If it is i OT turned into something worthvh-le for lila. E'dint residents, would-a't this be consieered a gross mis-use of the taxpayers' blanc y? Why in 'wt su-ldenly 41tco cLx>tl -" .o a.cquira 24 acres of property originally inclu,-14.,d in th -Mud Luke Parly Project wLena they receLtl.y paid $101,000 for 6 or 8 acres wit hiut bztt inn; an :.eye? Have the tax aaya»s or Rdian ever bcc:n informed au to exactly how much this project is gc.' ag to cost them overall? Have they ever been asked to err, ent ca to what`n.er the Project 13 Worth it' What:her they wanted it? Axis <arl We usave no specific timatab-la_ for the c(;a>lpletion of the Mud Lake Project. : rs funds pet -mit, it caill be couplet ed. Evs:ry rea.soaLble attempt will be made to cG:s;plate tile p-{ ject las sta o:: as pe; zsibif°,. `'-'e. varicu s ;. ps that Lave, in the past, been ditiplaye:d in the Village Mall r.,;:Cparcd 1by I :C&.ter t:.Ynd etl.Gooc:ivt:.eo, to the Village on such matters as, E at the request of the Village.. li" F2&"k: "{Li Z L + C 4j rid i 9 J%iZ�: plea l� 'his etc., , " _::S^.'ia`Jy Eli eel' +^ a f r ly �t I'.0 yC' '!�.'� r a:Y 1 71 p-3 (Sari �+ receat:ly completed by our c -"m eVolslLion of Che project. All such r --pa giros npp ")ro-yad by :?-�r.c Bc- d c.ad ila.n-ning C✓rmission and the Village Council. c�,.gitted dint his eac'4.ce of words mry not have been the loci -,t: ;,1he L ilei cc^alla,1 Hlud Lz-: a la ''nei- 1abo'-rho^d par!,". A I ?ani,,in:1W7 16, 11,70 Ori-inally, our appraisals valued the Clsun property at approximately $78.000. This vas based an a residential valuation. fLiwevez, Mr. Olsen claimed a higher value based on the possibility of obtaining a rezoning, by count action if necessary, Shanuld he be successful, Lind that possibillity exists, the cost to the Village would have greatly exceeded out catic:'-pated expense. However, upon ittAyIng f easible altzrnatives to A total acqitlsition, it v -as determined that only a 'po—UL - -11 of -1.10 Olsen property waa� real'J.Y asi;eutitl to the Mud Lake Park concept. Therefore, as above f:tatei, to anvoid the -,ragaries and unknown result$ of a court contest, to achieve the essentials for Mud Laho. acrd to obtain a more restricted and plauned use of ',Jic; Olsen property than, may result .from a court action, the agree- ment with Uluze-a -ins negotiated. Much of the sa=e thinking went into the decision to buy t1he Chci:okee property. However, in th;7t caoe, it was necessary to acquire the whole tr_cto maintpl.n the Nud LaRe cone_,pt. Therefore, a sattlement was wb"kcd czt: wl i,::.a was 'higher than. its resid'ent.P.1 v:_Jura, but consi&rz.bly lower than what in, valve Idould hast -re been had the Cherokc;ia peca,Ic been 8:.Eccessful ir. their reg canis 1--jult against the Village uhicti hno noa w been dismissed. In each erase, GG the pL - t -ms in an effort to resolve them in hC� . 1311t a%L,d effort was giver. bb7e the 1ba-31 interest of the Village and its residents. The 1�­d ')';al. -.s Prolect is fin&recd -almost tutall:- irom liquor revenues. Liquor fuLdN tra"litionally beau used to provide parka and recreation for the Village. _qaestion 8: 1U11 the alre.acly ove.rcrwyded sho-,)jYiD.& centers and grocery stores, etc. be adcq41;i�L_C_ or v-1111 NORF SAOPFING CENTER'_' BE' ERECTED? 1,? 30, 4RERE? Will the money that is said T�ovld be fortl%c"izig from these town housea (ia tames? Campensatle for crowikag our i=-_edlate -trea, congesting our streets, o,,.,r sazi-rvral atmcsphare (whish is :,-Ily moqt People Wei -it to live In Ulan)? ".4ill it Compensate for the Eddit-ional. Fi.,,,,-c and Police services required; trnf. ic lclhcol facilities, and tear on rov,!.s fres., addil-*".onal traf:Uc? Armwer: ?erha-,is first vcn should znsiwe,,L: tl,a q;aa3'_'Aor­a rai,ed by paragraph 3. The pKopartj co-..31�ms of 25 !Ger es and iJia VfJl?;,-e has never negotiated a donation. of t4a acres for a �irf, stctiork 7,ite as 'a zoreitiaa -of rexoning. Furi:her- morc., the Fei7ztom e1e -iculd accow.Qdate 100 ur.1ts A 14acre which Is what Pemtom is to ,:ake) an(the Clsan trar--t, 12'D. 21e 22C units !qould accoumodate 616 people 0 2.3 pr. rrcas fij,!urc`aL- uniu. This ossu�aes that all Vii'll be typic,sl iz,&Ev:�diuelly Crv)neA -undlts. l?" Il. --ha Olsen tract -.1's developed for rant.il p,-ti-1,otizz (1.20 unizo it 2.1. unit) wa &igh': e;tp_i�ct _n tot&.1 -poplilation of 532. 1 f !I- i ie 11---,P3-tnY co,,t1d be occi.iPJIe"I -,=Arely by single hmies in accor&mcz nFit"'i ex�?oT.-Ing zoniry--, itwc,%Ad, 123 hoyrw.,L3 and tit, 4 persous per unit, wctilr:'i htve, YGpi.,Iation cf 492 �41 @ 3 par r cre; typicnl density for R-1. in 3 Per acre). Tht! errC, ror.� c,,.-cvt,;ded, in terms of pea bt, �J, FDal Cal -Y.3 :70r art adjitionsil Shopping R*C-1 IF, Cni the -7 7, [Ija 'V ji'- i I 110t 1.1 tj Y t zaclliLies w_-11.31 ha--Ilrz to th-_'em,,_ad_ Mrs. john K. Y rgcr Fagg: 5 Jcnur,r„3 16, 1970 i3ecause of the lora student population (0.4 school age children per unit for irdividually owned townhouse units and 0.1 school age children per rental unit) this ;reFa will pay its osm way; in other vord3,, more revenue will be received from this area than will be spent an. it to provide schools and Necessary Village services. Single fa nAli homes do not normally pay their own Arai>= because the student population is- muc:a higher. it would seem that there would be am-ewhat more traffic from townhouses than froca single family davelopments. It would not, however, be significant. The first generates approximately five trips per day or 1,100 trips whilo the latter generates some seven trips per day or 860 trips babad on 123 single family units. oue tion 9 : Will Countryside: pa -.k playgroulid still serve its reason for being when ourrounded by a Fire Statio", role 250 t74nhous, .-s END all the inevitable traffic flowing. cn Tracy v -ad W. 62nd St. which loordar it? (Not to Mention the traffic coming to osis. "neighborhood park" when the Mud Lake Park Project 3s finished!) . w newer: Countryside Fark. win ccn nue to nerve its present function. There al-cul.d, however, be :rece tions takon to get ele:il.d en over, cinder, or across W. 52nd St. whenl traffic increnaes. Cueetion 10: y oe6n° t this fall into r. "conflict of interest04 category? Can M-. t riswo.ld really snare the interestzY of hia "neighbors" at heart when he is also tryriag to make a profit fro;ii the re ozi?? f; of tyin pro?erty? Cali n this revalation vas made, all the CountAl. Members were quick to state they didn't a thing about it (apt elof- : c���a43d c�ilent"� . kH(M DID SUCH A PZRTINENT BTT OF I17:^OPiFiT.G1N ESCAP.x'TT:'i}{it Gay MIR '.:"?P,i;S.".43REPRESENTATIVES ALL TRESS YE,1HS? um T naive in thinking that tiara doesnl seewa to be proper -- or is this an accustomed practice? Ernst=ex: Ifari�a a of Vh5 C€ unci. ' e-nd 'ae Yla ming Commission were not aware of Mr. Cwiswold'a inter ax -n in the Pemto-- property. He has not proaarted the development or t:ha site lin :any way and he has not tried to influence members of the Village Counci.1 or. P .mains Coiamio, an. It is TFell that the Council and Planning Commission are nor. advised of the a i-Luation. tho, Council will and must make a a C<.Siioaa 1:3ksee ae .Lt?Twf on 0,-- Mtn-iu-f. {�iSest iCi3 1.3. th'wYbq 1? Que3tion r,,ne J jy of 'Yavesbar 24. 7%his wazto be an in''0ai'aati1.7C MOSting fOr the d pinning Pari, Board =- d Council. The caflrz'�,'�• of vheso Boards aw^v left the. -IX =—,I(..Ym4- nt to attend. .C7st. J�` w±4 `=`4..i.S'� i.. �/'cS.T� •.5 ,.��li, DX-. --1 j:lam, I. . F-; Tot:. rsl,:.:,: +:;ea to ms's.=� quc a-L;n �A thv: 01sizu a'crc:age to be acquired as stated .^, Z:i : n`t"»;a €?a:tG '. ` �t� �i::''.u:r 2: �;.... rtu th of the C:�'G'F�£E:CiSsn ijigl xr2y encompasses x x � v �' 29 r E.,_»,�,. rc, �:' a. rYat <.y y : 1c:.:ea n � r�.� fin yzd limina itself and 24 acres are not xi S:Ci atu:,F.Y `3i2fc2V>r t;Ot,. t:?jt jE, <:c ,:i:� an �a2.3s re;a oils end iza'18 never beau opecif.ically iuclurlad It, the d€:-1el0RMu- ��laats. OX the 24 acres of upland, ve proper-ed3 t o acquire eight,, learing 16 acre¢ to fr. Olean. However, the interest of Mfrs. john K. Marg=arc Page 6 dasatu=y 16, 1970 Mr. Olven in the land in the lake could be transferred at the scam time as the eight acres, thus we acquire a total of 13 acres. Edina will reach its population saturation before 1980. 0 astivn 11: As the Village Council currently proposes it, what exactly does the =iu.d Lake Park Project consist of physically? It would be helpful to see a chart or Wap which visually outlines: Answer: a. Bcundaries of the total area: See enclosed map for boundaries. b. Y.ake size: 115.8 acres. c. Lake depth: Maximum depth, 14 feet; average depth, 6 feet. d. Lake height: Nor€nal height 860 feet above sea level; Dawn elevation, 867; the elevation of Olinger Blvd. is 861.5 and there .:are basements along Olirger Blvd. with elevations down to 857.35. e. A scenic road is proposed around the entire south and west sides of the lake. 't.aa re are no answers to f through k of quastion. #1 at the present time. A site desi.ghn or plan of this det-ail has not yet been prepared and will not be prepared until just prior to construction. t�T cation 2: At the pw:esent date., hm,, firm is the planning of Mud Lake Park Projcct? Has it been definitely ectaablishad that it CAN be done. a. fr = an engineering standpoint? b. uith.in rf..-aascnnble coat to the Village! t ,xpa.yarc? and, c. what, in :he Council's judgment, i.e, "reasonable cast"? Anss er: From an Engineering standpoint, the project is possible according to Bar- Engineering, consultants to the :line Mile Creek Watershed District Board of Managers. Yeo think the project can be done at a revzonable cost to Village taxpayers. To date, there have been no ;enoe:aal fund revenues or special taxes used for land acquisition. Most Villra,­! acquiaitio., fu -ads for parks are derived from liquor profits and .,;,ze assume this will continue. In eddition, we have applied for $134,500 from the Federal Coveznimr::rne to aass_.st len land ucquisitio... .rt * s T ti i Art 1 w t t t rt cWss�9 �:exe mt �tnt� b uc�b E'zh_,iah��^.;in�, ���. aup�rvr<:ima:�..ely ,350,050 in 1966 .cr the ` locd control porti.n: of the project, a.&., dredging, bog removal, daze fill ui teria ll, etc. '!.s you tno;cg c•nstruction costs have substantially increased in the four yosrs arca ccartruct cnz today will be higher than in 2966. In addition to this, thea %-;ould be nome park &, velopmen:. coast. Eire it t:hv way we think the pro; cct will, be financed: All park development costs oda the responslbi.l.i.ty of the Villa -e. a:ad will be financed by liquor revenues. It la a ;suzn _1 that: constuuc icn co3tas (dms, dredging, etc.) will be paid for by t~letazzlied Distric=t. funds w-hich ere cruGz pe ticSpste in. This cost will be spread over all bane:f:ited properties in the district, not joust Edina. There is no gray to tell just ghat the assessment policy W.11 be or what the exact,: cost to Edina residents W-11 be. The liq><ior fund will probably be used to pay our share of construction. Mrs . Johr. K. 'Yarger Page 7 January 16, 1970 There also is the possibility that some development funds quay be acquired from the Federal Government to assist in the construction of flood control devices. The land acquisition stage is our prime financial obligation and this is nearly complete. We mmy be able to recoup some of our land cost from other benefited communities in the District. Question 33: What needs will the Mud Laine Park Project satisfy? Answer: The overall project is multi --purpose in nature. It was conceived as a flood control project by the Nine Mile Creek Watershed District whose purpose it is to "provide: for the orderly handling of future floods so as to prevent undue daLw-Se to property". It is a necessary part of the overall Watershed District plan. The District: includes parts of Minnetonka, Hopkins, Eden Prairie, Edina, Richfield cad Bloomington. Tine: p"ri al6o calls for t.nd Lake and hands adjacent thereto to be utilized for both active and passive recveaation ptarprse.s. It will be a community wide facility. Other purposes are to provide %- een area" and water for aesthetic purposes and to anintain acme wild scenic area within the Village which hopefully Will also serve es a sanctuary for waaterfcwl &id fish. i?; es:: on 4: To what cxtent and to whom (any egency other than the Village of Mina) i+: trine Village co-cmi.tted as to meeting the above needs ? If c:-Mmitted, in chat waayo? Answer: The Village iB in no wa:y committed at the present time, to ueet the above neec?s. It has no ccatractual r;gteem':n- tv nor rcny implied committmento. It it the feelln c27 the Council, hcuaver, that it has a moral obligation to assist the Watershed District in its flood control program by providing necessary laad<i foe water. storage. It also feels an obligation to the residents of Edina to provid:: such a recreation facility aince it haav long been planned and their liquor revenues ere being spent to acquire the land. Cves,-in a .5: To tzhrt c ::at and . -n- Thry (en.y agency oxine` than the Village of Edina) is vas 'MlGae co +lotted as to providing specific land and/or facilities? Axnsl ;r: t ain, we no conr7mlt=eats. 1 the. Federal. Governuent, however, provides u: wits fends f_r ce ju .sitiQna we ara then, obligated to use the lands that they participate with us In for perks, recraaat''.on. , JL flood control purposes. 0%.icstixra 6: G"aat is the brnair-Chun or. tine frine acing of the TOTAL cost of the Y= -,d i KKc park rvoje ct? a. :fes: �ur':a l_' ac's has u:xd; bzn rzcuireri? 6'aaR.:n? At wheat Coat? b. � ., wao taz%.s .Frail p a.Ld _Zor? Hoc? ma, en ::emnino to be paid? c. � 6:d'...� 6tisaa; tic; U.z, for?L.°.iid�'�$itJll"}i:r: C. ?'htl: ie ti::' estiiiat,2d cost Ql the L"CTi3t";_ .min& la -ad nE?C.`eosary? e. ��hat is th :ML'L cast of e".1-inec;'l.rg? f. ,Nat is the estim:: -.tad TOTAL cost of construction, improvements and aqui.pamc nxt? g. haat is the ESTIX T Ell TOTAL COST of the Muco Lake Park Project, including 41rW s boar -a e t . o�cza i' s,a w plias ray oti urs? �r ♦ (�i 7 .3 ,uisla 'j� 161, 1970 h. VTiat Other agencies Will sums: a part of costs? Are these firm cosmiittments, :if . ani ? to what wsay will the Village be obligated to these "other saAaxncies", if any, for their financial nid? Any "strings attached"? If so, what? f. Rhat part of the total cost of the entire Project will be assumed by the Vi ll -age? J, What is the ;proposed method of financing the cost assumed by the Village? A�sver: As previously aucwered, 143.6 acres have already been acquired at a cost of $496,589.85. Please refer to Question 2 of first letter for answer to how land uns3 paid for. We have two parcels or 9.48 acres yet to acquire if the Olseu tract is dedicated. The Council authorizes all land acquisition. Questions a thrcugh J 11ha a all been answerau elsewhere in this letter to the beast of our ability. Tliere are no current cost estimates fox engineering, constructim�, etc. 17atil we design the park facilities and equipment, it is difficult to assiSn m cost to them. Again, aall parte and recreation facilities are paid for from the liquor revenues. ttt Laatx,c i 7: Who will ova_ the fecili.t:iefia (Hud Lake Park) when completed? E' -.n syrer: It is assmed that the 'sill -Age will own all facilities when completed. dluestionz 88: 'Tao will control the use and o�_eration of the propossd ISwd Lake Park Projoct? a. Uses to which recreational facilities will be put? For example, power boats in the eke? Fishing? Swimming? Campfires? Will it be fenced in? Admission. charged? Paid membership for those who use it (such as Edina Pool)? Qpen to noxi -residents of Edina? Maintenance, clean-up and policing (Su rdir g) of the area? Any restrictions on the size of large groups? b. Who will pay for construction raid upkeep of esscesss goads, interiml trails, casping & Picnic sites, restroom facilities and parking facilities? c. Who ::esportwibla for levels of water in the LAO Water outflow and inflow? d. Who responsible for possible water pollution prcablems? &aswer: The Watershed District will establish optimum wester levels and an mgrecoant will have to be worked out ccn,ening the relative controls to be exercised by the Wsater> had District, the State of Minnesota and the Village. The Village will co t-,inl and caparate all recreation facilities; will pay for and maintain all access a:onds, tr ailsa, picric areas, paa:1:ing facilities, etc., and will probably aaaintmin ".-he dem and dices as well. 11e V111af e will police all facilities and will be tLe enforcement authority €:long with and is tiddition to the Pollution Control Age-acy on pollution problems. Ab far as uses to be rade of she area, again we have no specific plans at this itime>. We do not va-ca )ose to nllcw parer boLting however, lie: cancot, at this stage, or -y hm! the nre;?+u !YYi,ll be can. rolled af: to usage. n uc:rich a 9: Who w12.1 control ftra cciing: of vperatiorsz and maintenance, including st!pe;a:'<tsSicYaa as:d policing conns,;cted above­ucnticued items? Anaver: lAnnu l cants of maintenssace for park facilities are paid for from liquor revenues and a two will tart levy. We have no estimate as to how much the xabave items will cost each year. We have not considered yearly dues, admission fees or acacess:io s as of yet, but rise would not want to a imin ate these as a possibility. M I i::;. ic*Aan 146'. ya:-ger V1 It is zssmed that maintenance of drams and dikes world be paid fur by the Nine Mile Creek 't-latershed District, but there is presently no established method of hurdling sutex.,- maintenrince. We would probably have to enter into an agreement with the Watezelied M�7,trict to handle this matter. You and all pe-raens o::Pning property in the Watershed District presently pay .70 per year property tax to the Nine Mile Creek Watershed District. This is the District's source o-F revenue for operations, e.g., planning, engineering, administratf.on, etc. There is a limit of three mills for operational purposes to derive $75,000. Mis money ca".not be used for construction. Coastrizetion monies must be raised through special assessment against the various benefited communities. The individual cmmunitle:s then must determine how to derive their share of the cost. At this time, the-Z-e is no way of knowing how much the Village would have to pay of the totel cost of construction, but It is assvmted that the liquor fund will be used to pray our share. Queotion 10: What is the projected time-table of this Project, beginning now thrcugh cmipletion? Anvyer: We have no specific timetable for the completion of the Mud Lake Project. As funds permit Federal, Watershea District, and liquor) the project will be completed. que.a.ion 11: Is tl-he h4lud Like Park Project wanted by the -present residents of Edina? Has a poll ever bacn taken (after giviLg residents sufficient information upon w1hich to bc-ee a chvics?). Answer: `There has never been a -poll to deLermlnc how many people want or do not went the Fuld Lake Project, "Ile have yel, to have a negative respa..-.ise to the project over these several years it 11ar3 bees in the planninE stage. Th,e January 1, 1968 llillaga Uawsle'toer, t;crt to all homes, fe-atured the Mud Lake g' an. At a Council meeting L , ". August 21, 1967, the costs were approved. We have rcf: land F--.z y to shack wbether the local weekly or metropolitan dailies carried nave items on thio, but the public reaction was minimal, with no objections or protests received. CKR0'WOLe3'GY OF HVEMS -XITe project Tias oziginally canceived, altbvugh not identified as such, in 1961 as part of the Cverall Vatershed District Plan. 1tv original purpose was to serve as a flood control project. !a 1966, c feasibility study was bone b, j Douglas W. Barr, Cc-r.staltitg Hydraulic Magineer for the Village ol Edina and the Niue, Hilo Th'aterEhed District. eat cone year, Brauer an& Asnociates did a conceptual study of the 'Hud TAIke arca end ve'.":y genarally out!An�zd the plan �c= the, Mud :'ake Project. 'rhe ct-033tu-nm, -.11--ahway -uc-s! bu."Ut 1X 10166. Me Counc:U tuthovized of,,' ,he Mud propartiee in txgt'st' 1967. Follo-eing are t Mnutcs of thr-t rzccting. Paige 10 January 16, 1970 August 21., 1967 IM U00, PROPERTY URCEASE AUTHORIZED. Mr. kyd:: advised Council that the estimated cost of land acq*Asition for the Mud :Lake improvement has been increased $85,000. He pointed out that a resolution had *-.een submitted to the Watershed District requesting financial cooperation in th3 project and that a reply is expected within thirty days. It was pointed ou"l that there is an element of risk involved in this land acquiniti.on inasmuch as no final committment has been received. Cost estimate and proposed cast distribution presented by Mr. Hyde showed a total ec.imslted cost of $825,000 whicsa includes $350,000 for construction of the lake, $280,000 for land acquisition more the flood plain, and $195,000 for land acquisition below the floor plain. of this a:anount, it is anticipated that the Villege and County will asch pay $276,250 and that it is hoped that $272,500 Will be paid by the Watershed District. The Village proposed to pay $88,750 from Genera? Fund Surplus: vand :'187,500 from Park rands. Mayor $redesen pointed out that Village records should indicate the total cast of the improvement, Whether paid from mark or fran General. ruandss. Hr. Hyde aeau:ed Council that all costs would be tabulated on the Mud laka Improvement ledger sheet. Trustee Johnson then offered the follcnt"ng resolution and mac red its adoption, recognizing that an element of risk exists is the event: that the Watershed District fails to participate in the coast diastribu1ticn: RESOLUTION «ISTHORIZING UAD ACQUISITION FOR I -IUD LBM IIIPROVEMM BE IT RESOLVED by the Edina Village Co"acil that; Village officials are heTeby authorized to enter into negotiations for €cquisitiorn of land for the Mud Lake Improvement for rat estimated cast of $475,000. Motion for adoption of the resolution was seconded by Trustee VanVaalkenbuTg and on rolleaall, there were four :ayes and no njys and the resolution was adopted. ATTEST: sitz, aed Fl,O2EiICE, D. _Fital.,].x� ERG, Villose Clerk - ARUMC. BREDESEN Mayor In late 1957, the Village acquired 27.86 acres from E. G. Thernell, 19.2 acres from the Fivalso =, and 2.13 acres from the Rohnars. Prior to that time, in 1965, we had azlr:.eadil nnquircd 31..03 ncrea from the Gleason's as part of our Creek Valley Paint acquisition. In December, 1966, PC -2(4.1 cvmercial. and R-3 and R+5 zonings were requested for the FcLaitcsk p c` c ty whou it wa-s :in a different ownership. In November, 1967, C-1 ccumercini zoning vino requested tior she Chzerokae Sale; property. Earlier in. March, 1966, a: rer mea t waa i-:,.ade for `wl -5 (hig`z use epaartment zoning, on the Olsen tract ( 3-20 story tcttrer3) . The fi'::a W two werc denied :fin early 3.9'68 by the Manning con--ai.s cion and Ccauncil and the Irttcr a,,�s never acted upon because of the then exioti,Ag marntorlum cra ap nZ'e:meint YG;ze,>a1 'I fd. Page 11 January 16, 1970 Then, in early 1968, the Village bought the six acre Wert property just west of Olinger Blvd. That same year, R-4 zoning was requested (June) and denied (August) by the Planning Commission and Council on the Cherokee Sales property. Suit was brought against the Village in October, 1968 by Cherokee Sales. Fir. Olsen again requested U-5 zoning in June, 1969 (3, 26 story towers) and w&. denied by the Planning Ccmmission and thers withdrawn. In 1969, the Village acquired the Bialick property (4.88 acres), the lPop r-Cardarelle property (0.2 acres), the Edwards property (2.93 acres), the Cherokee Sales property (6.15 acres), the Hanson property (.76 acres), the Schneider property (5.38 acres) and the Akins property (7.84 acres). We also entored into oar-_ a3reement with ©igen on October 7, 1969. The Cherokee Sales suit was dropped in late 1969. tie had the various ahovo properties appraised in 1969 and submitted to the Pedetiral Coveimment for $134,500 on May 13, 1969. Council authorized the attempt to vcquLre Federal funds on April 15, 1969. Enclosed your will find various enclosures to €ubataantiate these answers. 1 hope we have satisfactorily ctorily answered all of your questions. SisnCexelY, Warren C. Hyde Village ager WCH: ke MUS. i , �3, WOO U, 0010% 1 i I no 6 in: 0 Ov P70>. 1 _Wgust 11, 19W Oennepin 031m; Lun0grun hou App livaijul 00 Transfal Y. v (now of 7nhn!v ! pansl !not roquilrd) Su. .. Vico e 1 a SLOPE Evnwvel OYT AMEX nak .mjudjng speCral .�U,MAA Special usscvs .pnts ou 'and acquired vishm� $ 15,40, 70 Rchnv- ; b A N WerIL, 8023 U Therayll 11 037 J, Edvazdt, ),733 Q Aikem, W45 711", &hneldv- A-55- 687. 96 oil 21uny N 1 Am a $62, 207 96 A ! nV4 WWOT =" ON silo 589,85 W�. Property um wi,�Avo in thn ehavo cq0m,-vA 07m Gleason V 31 GI x sm 2 OW Upplor C 'reaval Q- "VION 00,092M Add vroarriv i,colnud b- ru. , nou sh"m coo QrYi 5�-Ynk%& X.LPW: Oennepin 031m; Lun0grun hou App livaijul W, K .1 of wppn. ly:: 01n. Transfal Wqat Approl 11 Oslo cz,NAHA) Su. .. Vico e 1 a SLOPE OrIgimo cs"11000 tc�v per O"Am, AMEX p7sposel finsminr Palo. consTruc; Wv s7cv funnay"': Tu- Mite QrYi 5�-Ynk%& X.LPW: Oennepin 031m; hou App livaijul W, K .1 of wppn. ly:: 01n. Transfal Wqat 8110 coo.. X, coo W.Goo f A , 500, 192 so oil t .. 925 , 0 MD U -1,T INP,G U&ND ACQUISIJX014 471. LAGE, OF EDLIFA As of Novembez, 5,., ',,--'i,9619 Thil-, folionnng propovtv has been pturchast-d b the Y 0.1 fn r Ci,+- 11,jr' pul.-Chase Unpw,d DateC 11 : 7110--(W Sxi-ion 32'. Town!;hip 117., Range 21, P'arcel 17o, 14,00 ;,Tisher property)19-2 $19 5-32 70 acres Papnents wade S 3 3 5 9,� 2 2 164- W, j B--Iance due in followins maanerl 1970 � 500:Co 1971 'i I ., 500, Co 3.972 10,539,:22 12-29 -67 Pvrcel Yo.. 6t j,0 and 6000 (Re. h n- C r ProperLy) 2.J3 evres, $2-6 OW00 Payments Madci 31 400.- 00 $-12,,600 00 $26ilk-001 Balance due ia mannet.-.- 1970 4;,200 CI 1971 e4, 200 " Go 1,972 4 U0, 00 103-5-.67 KJ111arney Shores -Guttot A. (Thernall) 27..86 &cres 390,1? Payments nade0)� 190 7 0 $871,000, 2-14-68 Edins Giove.--Out lots I an -d 2 rYert) 6 acres q 970, i)a Payw,..nts made 9"219 170 0 8-;19-6S Parkwood -Itb Addlizica Outlot 2 (Hansen' -,76 acres 1� I 11-5-69 Section 31., *Fjwnnhvp 111.1 Raage 2! Parcel No, 2400 :"Schaei4ICz) 5 , 3 acres 0 0 C Payments Lwde (10 0 000 10 ,8-69 Part of Parcel M), kAklns) 7,84 acres 3 Mi f.." Payments made 2 4,00 1 7; 1) 0 `r20 000, 9-30-69 Rej�,iste:�zed Loaarl 2w:.-vey 53125 Part of Pavcel 19 It— 3 aczes payment,.�i mad -T 10, 2C-69 Lud,; Gu!)I Ifo (Cherekee Payments a2ade 00V .0 8 1,11;2-69 Section 32: 21� !earrcel Wo, 26'�,D 2 0 0 co Payments made 1 090 CO $21,000100 �-�189560, %IR 11"a ge 1 1) UN -0 f'-40JECT LAND ACQUMT10DI i't c�nas(: Total Unpaid Rstav"ted Da--& Cost. Baj mutes co'rot M 11-48-65 Aud, Sub, Ro, :x.967 Pzrcel No5820 (Gleason) 31-03 acres $JI.'OICI010 Feyments made �� 3 1 - 0 0 1, 0 0 0 10-2-67 Parcel No, 6050 (Gleesca) 7.02 acres $23,J66.,00 $21�.66,00 44-69 Scenic View - Second Add"n , Outlot 3 �- (Popp ler=- Card ar a Ile) A acres 30C,00 Payments made 3WC41 0 0 TOTAL ACOUIRED $40,6-,589.,85 $167,639,22 The property yet to be acquired 1'3 ;zx fo'vAo-ri-s, Est., Cost - Viking Hills Second -- pm,t of parcel. 7500 +;.K-rahl.) 43 acze,,3 Section 32,, Township 11.7 Range-. 21. Parcel Mo. 6800 ft ow) 7,25 xi:es $21,000,00,C) $16 000,, Part of Pzircel Na,, 5020 and 5060 Mundgren) 2,23 no res $2571900AIO(C) Section 5 - Totzmship 11.6 Rargz 2i - Part of Parcel No, 640 (001son) 7:37 (D) $63,200, di - Dedicated L - Will be dedicated C, - Will be condemn D - Will be dedicated as part A ::ezoaing (,$7811COO of Ceretl for the tool 31A acres)� E* - Estimated cost cis of- Smgust U-, 1967 cost did n'-ae, iucI--Acs !"peci'll assessments) Ilie Villa3e has acquired 7.11-2 aci-o'-,j P1,19 I " t I �'Ild cc.ne�'; rt�t to acquire, 7777= 17,a�''Y b do r� i 4ck "',"- y x„ ' Spy •C �'i".j4 k, y. lstk• S° a„+ q4 Aow E, r. t I b#14 EM?. 3` l y PROPOSED - • c NINE sell AA 8 s T. 17 Ilk a N IVAMMMP d{� � �:v,.lf `� y P �v f Y ✓rah' g 5 r L fi s � , ly d �b } . 3 ls.aM4._,.�::$�ic'.s::'�'u. �, � .u:,` a`o ii�t��eearx�� ►• � �..� ... ...r .. � r �.y ,:ao,'.,.,�...w.U:u�3.s`:i.:�M. ___.._.. .._ 4 a .E WAMA R 05 bi 'Tl SMM , ut i"NAL CH a� = ice• MOSS©4N Ilk THtRNELL z: tt � __."�'_ ��! ,��_ .� Mrs•. � �� � t ., ,�,�� ,!MIS C HERClKLE {. _ 0001. 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