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Edina Heritage. Preservation Board
Special Meeting
Thursday, August 24, 1978, at 7:30 p.m.
Edina City Hall Conference Room
I. Approval o'f the Minutes: June 8, 1978, July 13, 1978, and
August 10, 1978.
II. Historical Survey:
Progress Report: Mr. Scott and Mr. Hess.
III. Grimes House.
IV. Next Regular Meeting Date: September 14, 1978, at 7:30 p.m.
V. Adjournment.
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
HELD THURSDAY, AUGUST 24, 1978, AT 7:30 P.M. .
EDINA CITY HALL CONFERENCE ROOM
Members Present: Chairman Foster Dunwiddie, Tom Martinson, Maryanne Herman, Paul
Mucke, Gordon Stuart, Frank Thorpe.
Staff Present: Harold Sand
I. Approval of the Minutes.
Mr. Martinson moved that the minutes of the June 8, July 13,
and August 10, 1978, Edina Heritage Preservation Board be approved as submitted.
Mrs. Herman seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
Mr. Dunwiddie indicated he would like to hear item number three
on the agenda next to save Dr. and.Mrs. Stallard some time.
III. Grimes House.
Dr. and Mrs. Stallard were present and indicated they were the
purchasers of the Grimes House. They anticipate gaining occupancy September 1,
1978. Dr. Stallard presented an outline for the building and requested a permit
from the Board to proceed with the work.
Dr. Stallard explained the following items that they would like
to proceed with immediately:
1. Replace the diseased elm trees with maple or ash.
2. Trim overgrown shrubs in front of the house.
3. Restore the outbuilding behind the garage and convert to
a workshop for repair work. This includes truing the
building, insulating, sheetrocking, and painting the
interior and providing electricity.
4. Remove the antenna mounted on the chimney.
5. Remove the exposed toilet and lavetory from the master
bedroom.
6. Shorten the two kitchen windows on the west side of the
Melvin Grimes addition. The windows are to match the
design and length of the north kitchen window. The mod-
ification will allow a normal height countertop in the
kitchen.
7. Restore the first floor bedroom. Remove the modern door
and picture window and replace them with period windows.
The sliding and interior paneling would be replaced.
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8. West side porch floor would be replaced.
9. Replace aluminum storms and screens with wood.
10. Update and bring to code the wiring, plumbing, and
heating systems
11. Redecorate the interior preserving all original hardware
and restoring to the late 1800's.
12. Repair all shutters, railings, and trim to prevent further
deterioration.
Dr. Stallard indicated that he would also like to perform the following work at
some time in the future. However, he was not prepared at this time to apply for
a permit for this work.
1. Remove all old roofing and replace with sawn Cedar
shingles.
2. Rebuild chimney(s) which have been removed.
3. Remove screened porch on East and restore as shown on
old wood cut.
4. Remove porch on front west in order to restore original
lines of house and construct porch similar to the one to
be built on the West.
5. Attempt to blend the three car garage into the style of
the house.
6. Paint the exterior to original colors.
7. Replace the fence in front as shown on old wood cut.'
8. Construct building on old foundation at rear of lot
consistent with original.
Dr. Stallard indicated that he would also like to engage Mr. Dunwiddie for some
consulting work on the restoration. He indicated that some of the items listed
were not actually required to be reviewed by the Board for a permit; however, he
wanted the Board to be aware of the proposed work, and he welcomed their advice
in these matters.
Mr. Sand mentioned that a building permit would be required for
items 3, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 10 from the immediate list and possibly numbers 1 through
5 on the future list.
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Mr. Dunwiddie said that he applauded the removal of the
aluminum storms and screens and replaced with accurate reproductions of the.
original storms. If that could not be determined, a pattern matching the
original windows should be used.
Mrs. Herman said the proposal sounds very commendable and
suggested that they consider a ginkgo tree as a replacement because Mr. Grimes
imported the species to the area.
Mr. Dunwiddie said that he would like to look at items 6, 7,
and 12 in more detail with further consultation on the site. It is important
in any restoration to sort out who did what at various stages and then proceed
to avoid back tracking. There was a concern in number 12 that there is an
effort to preserve all the parts that can be and faithfully reproduce the parts
that can not. The historical society may be interested in preserving any
surplus parts. Mr. Dunwiddie asked if Dr. Stallard had received the list of
interior elements that were important to preserve, and indicated that these are
not necessarily the only elements of the interior that are original. Dr. Stallard
said that he did receive the list, and they were sensitive to the preservation
of the original elements.
After further discussion Mr. Martinson moved that the Board
approve a permit for items listed for immediate consideration subject to
further consultation on the site for items 6, 7, and 12. Mr. Thorpe seconded
the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
Mr. Dunwiddie indicated that they could move to item II on
the agenda.
II. Historic Survey: Progress Report.
Mr. William Scott, AIA of Setter, Leach and Lindstrom
Architects and Mr. Jeffrey Hess, consulting Historian were present to give an
interim report. Mr. Scott indicated that this report was off schedule because
they were involved in greater depth than expected. They were very excited about
the methodology that they were using and that they were through with the Historic
Aspects at this time. Their next area of investigation will be in the Country
Club. They have met with Charles Skrief of the Minnesota Historical Society and
discussed the methology, and he has approved their approach.
Mr. Hess outlined the research approach they have used. They
have developed a research bibleography outlining available resources. They they
isolated all previous survey work including the Bicentennial survey and the 1971
survey by Dudley Parsons using the 1898 map which showed structures. He has
inventoried all the structures identified in newspaper files and in Mr. Dunwiddies
files. He has reviewed all 15,000 assessors files trying to select all pre -1920
structures either from the assessors date or the photos. This provided a huge
master list. Mr. Scott reviewed the assessors cards and made a stylistic analysis
and they prepared a color coded historic map with all the structures platted on it.
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This shows some interesting patterns of all structures that existed in 1920
and their style patterns. He said he then went to the 1898 map of Edina and
drew in the half -section lines, triangulated the distance of the structures from
the section lines, and transposed them to the current maps. The buildings could
be located and inspected on site to determine if there were any structures they
missed on the other inventories. The technique proved to be extremely accurate.
Mr. Scott said that some homes that appear to be original may
have been -moved in and are deceptive. Mr. Hess said they then analyzed the
prospective matches. Mr. Martinson indicated he liked the methology and was
impressed that they have gotten to the core of what the early town of Edina was
about.
Mr. Scott indicated that they then looked for historic neighbor-
hood districts and clusters that suggest possibilities. There are some bungalows
on West 44th Street that are very good. There is also an interesting collection
in the northwest quadrant.
Mr. Hess said one other study they have done is a chronology of
platting through 1950 with the date and the developer. It appears the major
development between 1914-18 was in the Normandale section by Pamela Park. Mr.
Dunwiddie indicated that they also might check into the pattern of development
of roads.
After further discussion the Board generally agreed that the
consultant's approach and progress were satisfactory. Mr. Sand reviewed the
billing the City has received for the consulting services. The Board generally
agreed that the consultants should be paid and that a portion of the funds
should be retained until the final report was submitted. No further action
was taken.
IV. Next Regular Meeting Date.
Due to a conflict on meeting dates, the Board generally agreed
to change the September meeting from the 14th to the 19th at 7:30 p.m. in the
City Council Chambers. Mr. Dunwiddie asked the staff to send a letter to Mr.
Wiltz indicating the change and that the designation of -the Baird House would
be on the agenda.
V. Adjournment.
Mr. Martinson moved that the meeting be adjourned. Mr. Muche
seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Harold Sand
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
HELD TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1978 AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
Members Present: Chairman Foster Dunwiddie, Frank Thorpe, Paul Muche, Betty Paugh,
Maryanne Herman, Gordon Stuart.
Staff Present: Harold Sand
I.
Approvalof the Minutes
Mr. Sand indicated the minutes for August 24, 1978 were not
available. Mr. Muche moved the minutes be continued until October 12, 1978. Mrs.
Herman seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
II. Baird House. 4400 West 50th Street
Mr. Dunwiddie said that this item was last considered by the
Heritage Preservation Board on June 8, 1978; the matter was continued until the
September meeting at the request of the present owner, Mr. Dick Wiltz.
Mr. Sand said that Mr. Wiltz was notified of this meeting and
that Mr. Wiltz indicated he may or may not attend. Mr. Wiltz has completed the
purchase of his new home in Minnetonka. However, he had not sold the Baird House.
Mr. Sand said that Mr. Wiltz indicated to him that he would not
oppose the designation of the Baird House as a Heritage Preservation District which
is consistent with his statements at the June meeting.
Mr. Stuart inquired if the property was listed on the National
Register at this time. Mr. Dunwiddie said that it has been nominated and the nom-
ination was file with the State Historic Preservation Officer. However, the
State Review Boaid has not reviewed the nomination because they have been concen-
trating on other areas of the state.
Mr. Thorpe inquired if Mr. Wiltz had any proposal for an aiaptive
re -use of the property. Mr. Sand said that he has not received any more inquiries.
The Board genera ly discussed the merits -of an adaptive re -use of the property.
They decided ther would not formally address the issue without a concrete proposal.
However, the con ept will tend to enable the owner to provide rehabilitation and
maintenance of t e property.
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the property is
the motion. All
Mr. Stuart moved that the Board find that the property is con-
igraphs (b) and (c) of the Criteria for Evaluation of Heritage
I that the Board adopt the statement of significance with affirmative
3ers 1, 2, 3.b, 4.b and c, and 5.b, and therefore recommend that
iesignated a Heritage Preservation District. Mrs. Paugh seconded
voted aye; the motion carried.
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III. Other Business
A. Grimes House.
Mr. Dunwiddie said that Dr. and Mrs. Stallard moved into
the Grimes House on September 1, 1978. They have asked him to perform consulting
services on the restoration of the house. Mr. Dunwiddie said that he asked the
Mayor and the City Council if this would constitute a conflict of interest, and
they have indicated they could not see any problems.
IV. Next Meeting Date: October 12, 1978, at 7:_30 p.m.
V. Adjournment
Mr. Muche moved that the meeting be adjourned. Mrs. Herman
seconded this motion.. All voted aye; the motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Harold Sand
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