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REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1991, AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGERIS CONFERENCE ROOM
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
APRIL 30, 1991
II. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT INFORMATION BROCHURE:
III. BAIRD HOUSE - 4400 WEST 50TH STREET
- RENOVATION UPDATE
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
V. NEXT MEETING DATE:
JUNE 25, 1991
VI. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 1991 AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGERIS CONFERENCE ROOM.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, Marilyn Curtis, David
Gepner, Herman Ratelle, and Lois Wilder.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Cy Stuppy, Donald Wray.
STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner.
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Herman Ratelle moved for approval of the minutes from the April 30,
1991 meeting. Marilyn Curtis seconded the motion. All voted aye;
the motion carried.
II. Country Club District Information Brochure:
Board members reviewed the most recent draft of the Country Club
information brochure, agreeing that the format, photographs, and
text did an excellent job of meeting their objectives.
Marilyn Curtis volunteered to obtain original photographs of the
first clubhouse for the Edina Country Club as well as blue line
renderings of the model homes from the Historical Society Museum at
Arneson Acres.
Discussion ensued relative to the quality of the paper to be used
as well as the printing of the piece.
Gary Nyberg suggested a heavier paper than the standard copy paper
used for the two drafts; possibly a 100 lb. weight. He pointed out
that his firm has been pleased with the 100 lb. paper they have
used for brochures.
Question was raised relative to the color of the paper and the
colors to be used for printing. The Board agreed that white paper
would be preferable. Additionally, they preferred exploring the
possibility of reproducing the brown, green, orange, and blue
colors which were used in the original Country Club brochure.
General discussion ensued relative to the content and format of the
brochure. Board members agreed that the brochure is inviting,
interesting and very readable.
Regarding the availability of the brochure, the Board expressed
concern that the brochure be dispensed in a timely fashion when
residents interested in remodeling can benefit from the
information. The Board also recommended that the brochure be
mailed to the Country Club residents accompanied by a cover letter
from the Mayor.
Addressing the printing of the brochure, Ms. Repya explained that
she and Ralph Campbell would be meeting with a printing company to
investigate the printing processes available and the related costs;
as more information is available, it will be relayed to the Board.
III. Baird House - 4400 W. 50th Street.
Marilyn Curtis, Board member and owner of the Baird House
introduced her husband Jack who was present to explain plans he and
Marilyn have for renovating their home.
Mr. Curtis began by showing several turn of the century photographs
of the house. In the photos, one sees three barns on the site as
well as a water towers which all appear quite close to the house.
Interestingly, one of the barns still stands on the property and
serves as a garage.
Continuing, Mr. Curtis explained that the initial step toward
renovation involves a considerable amount of research. Like most
historic buildings, replacing such things as windows, gutters, and
roofing involves much more than buying off the shelves at Knox
Lumber. All replacement materials for the house must be custom
made.
Mr. Curtis pointed out that he is still doing his homework,, and in
the process, has contact several sheet metal firms in the City
regarding replicating the gutters. Unfortunately, nobody he has
contacted can produce the required gutter.
Addressing the timeline foreseen for repairs to their home, Mr.
Curtis explained that they hope to re -roof the house this year with
asphalt shingles. Mr. Curtis continued by stating that a gentleman
from Chubb Insurance Company specializing in historic buildings
will inspect the building, completely documenting the structure and
building materials. Regarding the issue of roofing, this gentleman
has stated that wood shingles are no better than the standard
asphalt shingles we see today. The difference is strictly
aesthetic and monetary. (Wood shingles are much more expensive.)
Discussion ensued relative to the differences between fiberglass
and asphalt shingles. Gary Nyberg explained that a lot of
controversy exists between the two. Currently, it appears people
are shying away from the fiberglass shingles in favor of asphalt.
Upon close inspection of the early photographs, the Board
determined that the house originally sported wood shingles that
were stained or painted.
Mr. Curtis continued by pointing out that there is still more
research to do prior to beginning the re -roofing job.
When asked the status of the attic space, Mr. Curtis explained that
the attic is one large open space with plaster walls. When the
house was built it was heated with gravity fed running water; and
the water was stored in the attic. The attic was also used as a
laundry room where they would not only wash the clothes, but also
hang them to dry.
Regarding the wood used in the home, Mr. Curtis explained that a
good deal of the woodwork is pine which was grown and raised in
Minnesota. This wood is not comparable to the western pine found
in our local lumber yards today, consequently all the lumber he now
uses in the home is procured from a lumber yard in Grand Marais.
Addressing the front porch, Mr. Curtis pointed out that the
proposed work is maintenance in nature. As part of the maintenance
process, they plan on restoring the gingerbread and turnings with
the help of the original photographs of the house.
Mr. Curtis explained that he has a considerable investment in
molding tools and other equipment which will allow him to do much
of the work on the house himself. He plans on recreating the
original form of the house as closely as possible.
With regard to painting the exterior of the house, Mr. Curtis
explained that he will be removing the old paint with a blow torch
and re -painting with an oil based paint.
Gary Nyberg pointed out that the industry has made strides in the
area of latex paints and primers. However, he agreed that the oil
based paint would be a good choice for the home. Continuing, Mr.
Nyberg warned that some states have outlawed the use of oil base
paints. Adding that perhaps Mr. Curtis would want to complete the
exterior painting in the near future, just in case Minnesota
decides to outlaw the oil based paints.
In closing, Mr. Curtis stated that the Baird House was unique for
its time when it was built by Charles Sedgwick in 1886. Unlike
most residences of the day, Sedgwick designed this house on a
commercial level, utilizing many of the materials and techniques
found in buildings such as his downtown Dayton's department store.
Restoring this home is a challenge, but one he and his family
willingly accept.
Board members thanked Mr. Curtis for sharing his knowledge and
expertise on historic restoration, specifically as it relates to
the Baird House. All agreed that the City is fortunate to have the
Curtis family living in and caring for one of its historic
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IV. Other Business
None.
V. Next Meeting Date:
June 25, 1991 will be canceled unless new business arises.
VI. Adjournment: 8:30 PM
Respectfully Submitted.
M E M O R A N D U M
TO: Heritage Preservation Board
FROM: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner
DATE: June 21, 1991
SUBJECT: Meeting Cancellation/Country Club Brochure Update
The regularly scheduled meeting for Tuesday, June 28, 1991, has
been canceled due to lack of subject matter.
Country Club Brochure Update:
Ralph Campbell, Director of Communications for the City and I have
met with Mr. Rod Borg of Ad Vantage Graphic Services. We presented
the draft brochure to him along with original photographs and
renderings procured from the Historical Society (thanks to Marilyn
Curtis and Jim Finlayson).
Mr. Borg seemed confident that he could replicate the original
Country Club Brochure for our cover, to include the colors and
leather -like effect of the paper.
of course, the cost variable does enter into the printing picture.
Mr. Borg proposed a four-color digital process which is state-of-
the-art and actually more reasonable than the traditional four-
color separation process.
Mr. Borg suggested we print the brochure on standard 8 1/2" X 11"
paper instead of the 8 1/2" X 14" paper we have been using for our
drafts. Ralph and I agreed for two reasons:
1. This will help to keep costs down, and
2. If we decide to mail these brochures, 8 1/2" X 11" paper
on a tri -fold will fit in our City envelopes.
Mr. Borg will be getting back to us with a cost analysis showing
the four-color digital as well as three and two-color. He will
also have samples of the brochure for us to preview prior to making
a commitment.
If you have any questions or comments to share, please call me at
927-8861. I will keep you advised as we receive more information.
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M E M O R A N D U M
TO: HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
FROM: JOYCE REPYA, ASSOCIATE PLANNER
SUBJECT: MEETING CANCELLATION
DATE: JULY 19, 1991
The regularly scheduled meeting for Tuesday, July 23, 1991, has
been canceled due to lack of subject matter.
Country Club Brochure Update:
Last week, Rod Borg from Advantage Graphic services presented a
quote for the brochure along with samples of the art work. The
reproduction of the original brochure was wonderful! In fact, it
looks even better (colors are richer) than the original.
I am sending a copy of the quote for your review. Ralph Campbell
and I will be meeting with Ren Rosland to discuss the project and
explore financing alternatives.
I've talked with the Minnesota Historical Society about the
project. They were very supportive; stating that educating the
residents is a definite step in the right direction. Regarding the
possibilities of financial assistance from them, apparently, this
project is perfect for assistance from the CLG (Certified Local
Government) program. Unfortunately, Edina is not one of the CLG
Cities. We could become a CLG city, however, the application
process is time consuming and while this is something you may wish
to pursue, it may not be a benefit for the C.C. brochure project.
If you have any comments, questions, or concerns, please call me at
927-8861.
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