HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993 HPB Meeting Minutes RegularA G E N D A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
I. INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBERS:
John Cooney
John McCauley
II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
October 27, 1993
III. CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT APPLICATION UPDATE:
IV. HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD BY-LAWS:
Review and Update
V. OTHER BUSINESS:
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
February 23, 1993
VII.
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, JANUARY 26, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL COUNCIL ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, Jack Cooney, Marilyn
Curtis, John McCauley, Lois Wilder, Donald
Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT: Herman Ratelle
STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya
I. INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBERS:
John Cooney and John McCauley were welcomed as the newest
members of the Board. Board members each introduced themselves and
shared their interests and background.
II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Marilyn Curtis moved for approval of the minutes from the
October 27, 1992, meeting. Donald Wray seconded the motion. All
voted aye; motion carried.
III. CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT APPLICATION UPDATE:
Ms. Repya advised the Board that most of the Board Members
resumes had been submitted to staff. Once all resumes have been
collected and the By -Laws have been updated, staff will compile the
application package for submittal to the state. No formal action
was taken.
IV. HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD BY-LAWS:
Board Members having reviewed the By -Laws prior to the
meeting, discussed the inconsistencies they found relative to the
current operation of the HPB.
Lois Wilder moved that Section 8 outlining the monthly meeting
date and time be changed to read, "The Board shall hold regular
monthly meetings on the fourth Tuesday of each month at 7:00 p.m.
at 4801 West 50th Street in the City of Edina, Minnesota." John
Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
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Discussion ensued relative to the reference in the By -Laws to
a Board Secretary. It was agreed that since the staff
representative serves as the Board Secretary that the references to
a Secretary should be deleted.
Lois Wilder then made the following motion:
1. Under the Officers heading of the By -Laws, Section #13,
the Office of Secretary should be removed from a listing
of officers; and
2. Under Section 17, all references to the Secretary should
be changed to Staff Representative and the last paragraph
explaining the ability to assign a Secretary from city
staff should be deleted.
Marilyn Curtis seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
V. OTHER
Edina Mill Site
Ms. Repya advised the Board that in 1976 the HPB had made
application for the Edina Mill site to be nominated to the National
Register of Historic Places. Since that time, much confusion has
arisen as to the status of that application.
It appears that in May of 1976 the State Review Board approved
the application and forwarded it on to the Department of Interior
for final approval. Apparently, they returned the application to
the City requesting additional information. In August of 1976 the
City resubmitted the National Register Application to the Park
Service with the requested information.
After the August 1976 correspondence with the National Park
Service our files show no further correspondence until January 1979
when the State advised the City that the Federal Government
requires evidence that the Mill's foundation exists.
Although an extensive dig was undertaken at the Mill Site in
1977 by Richard Busch, there was apparently no correspondence from
the City to the National Park Service regarding the status of the
Mill foundation.
Ms. Repya further explained that the State agrees that the
site has local significance, but feels it does not meet the
necessary criteria for a State designation. Scott Antonson of the
Minnesota Historical Society explained that if the HPB chose to
resubmit the National Register application at the time, he felt a
professional historian should be employed to draft the application
in order to adequately justify the integrity of the site since so
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many changes have occurred in the National Register Program since
application was first made in 1976.
Discussion ensued regarding the application process and the
possibility of using grant funds if we become a Certified Local
Government city. No formal action was taken.
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
February 23, 1993, at the Arneson Acres Historical Society
museum, 4711 West 70th Street.
VII. ADJOURNMENT: 8:15 P.M.
Joyce Repya
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A G E N D A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL CENTER AT ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70TH STREET
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
January 26, 1993
II. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
III. EDINA MILL SITE/BROWNDALE BRIDGE:
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
V. HISTORIC MUSEUM TOUR:
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
March 23, 1993
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL CENTER AT ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman, Gary Nyberg, Jack Cooney, Marilyn
Curtis, John McCauley, Herman Ratelle, Lois
Wilder and Donald Wray
STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Marilyn Curtis moved for approval of the minutes from the
January 26, 1993, meeting. John McCauley seconded the motion. All
voted aye; the motion carried.
II. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
Marilyn Curtis moved to nominate Gary Nyberg for another term
as Chairman of the Heritage Preservation Board. Mr. Nyberg
accepted the nomination. Donald Wray seconded the motion. All
voted aye; motion carried.
Marilyn Curtis moved to nominate Donald Wray as Vice -Chairman
of the Heritage Preservation Board. Mr. Wray accepted the
nomination. Gary Nyberg seconded the motion. All voted aye; the
motion carried.
III. BROWNDALE BRIDGE/EDINA MILL SITE:
A. Browndale Bridge
Ms. Repya explained that the City is in the process of
researching the history of the Browndale Bridge to develop plans
for it's revitalization. A project review team will be established
consisting of representatives from the Country Club neighborhood,
City Staff, U.S. Corps of Engineers, MN Department of
Transportation, and the Minnehaha Watershed District to name a few.
The review team will address historical implications, traffic
concerns, and water flow as it relates to Minnehaha Creek. Mr.
Hoffman, the City Engineer foresees the study to take the, better
part of 1993, however, no final time line has been established for
the project.
Ms. Repya advised the Board that once the review team begins
there work, the Heritage Preservation Board will be kept advised of
the progress and will be called upon for their input.
The Board discussed the history of the bridge both as it
relates to the Country Club District and the old mill site. No
formal action was taken.
B. Edina Mill Site
Marilyn Curtis reminded the Board that at the January Heritage
Preservation Board meeting the history. of the National Register
application for the mill was reviewed. At that time, it was
mentioned that in January, 1979, the State advised the City that
the Federal Government required evidence of the existence of the
mill's foundation.
Ms. Curtis shared a photograph of the mill foundation that was
part of the excavation report on the mill from 1977; giving proof
to the state's query regarding the existence of foundation.
Discussion ensued regarding the events relating to the mill's
National Register Application in the late 19701s. Board members
agreed that the Edina Mill site is historically significant beyond
its local designation and should merit a place on the National
Register of Historic Places.
Marilyn Curtis moved that the board proceed with the
application for National Register designation for the Edina Mill
Site. Herman Ratelle seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
Boards and Commissions Dinner Meeting
Chairman Nyberg reminded the Board of the upcoming Boards and
Commissions dinner meeting on March 24, 1993, 6:00 p.m. at the
Centennial Lakes Centrum Building.
V. EDINA HISTORICAL MUSEUM TOUR:
Board members adjourned from the business portion of the
meeting and proceeded with a tour of the museum conducted by
Marilyn Curtis who created the current antique valentine exhibit
"Snippets and Sonnets" on display at the museum until April 24,
1993.
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
March 23, 1993
VII. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Joyce Repya
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M E M O R A N D U M
TO: Heritage Preservation Board
FROM: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner
SUBJECT: Meeting Cancellation, March 23, 1993
DATE: March 18, 1993
The regularly scheduled meeting for Tuesday, -March 23, 1993, has
been cancelled due to lack of subject matter. I look forward to
seeing you at the Boards and Commissions meeting on Wednesday,
March 24th.
A G E N D A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
February 23, 1993
II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION:
Jonathan Grimes House
4200 West 44th Street
Request: Erect a 10 foot diameter satellite dish antennae in
the rear yard
III. 14TH ANNUAL HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION/CLG WORKSHOP:
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
V. NEXT MEETING DATE:
May 25, 1993
VI. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Marilyn Curtis moved for approval of the minutes from the
February 23, 1993, meeting. John McCauley seconded the motion.
All voted aye; motion carried.
II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION:
Jonathan Grimes House - 4200 West 44th Street
Reauest: To erect a 10 toot in diameter satellite dish
antenna in the rear yard.
Ms. Repya reminded the Board that the Jonathan Grimes house is
listed on the National Register of Historic Places as well as being
locally zoned Heritage Preservation District.
The current residents, Dr. and Mrs. Bruce Fererra are
proposing to erect a 10 foot in diameter satellite dish antenna in
the rear yard 30 feet from the northeast corner of the house; thus
the need for a permit from Heritage Preservation Board.
Ms. Repya explained that Edina's Antenna Ordinance No. 815
requires a permit to erect a satellite dish larger than nine square
feet in cross section and taller than six feet in height. The
Ordinance stipulates that in the residential zone, dish antennas
shall not exceed 12 feet in height measured from the ground
elevation to the highest point of the dish. The 16 foot height
proposed for the satellite dish requires a four foot height
variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals.
The satellite company has explained that the proposed location
and height of the antenna is necessary to receive the satellite
signal over the tall tree line along the west property boundary.
The variance request will be heard by the Board of Appeals on
May 6, 1993 to provide initial review by the Heritage Preservation
Board.
Ms. Repya pointed out that she had spoken to Charles Nelson,
State Historical Architect about the proposal. He explained that
since the satellite dish is not a permanent structure, will not be
visible from the front street and will not be attached to the
house, it would be permissible.
Mr. Nelson further stated that it is important for the
Heritage Preservation Board to review the antenna request in order
to document that care has been taken to place the satellite in the
rear yard, not visible from the front street and not attached to
the house.
Ms. Repya advised the Board that there are two elements which
enter into play when dealing with the antenna ordinance and Federal
Communication Commission (FCC) requirements on historic properties.
It appears that the city cannot deny a property owner access to
satellite signals as mandated by the FCC. However, at the same
time, it is important that the architectural integrity of an
historic property is not compromised by changes made on the site.
By placing the antenna in the rear yard where staff has been
assured it will not be visible from the front street, it appears
that the architectural integrity of the home will not be
detrimentally affected.
Ms. Repya concluded by stating that staff recommends the Board
stipulate approval of the modification request predicated upon the
following facts:
1. The satellite dish antenna is a temporary structure.
2. The satellite dish antenna will not be attached to the
house, and will be erected in the rear yard, and
3. The satellite dish antenna will not be visible from the
front street.
Board members discussed the site plan and photographs of
similar antennas. Gary Nyberg asked how the antenna was viewed to
be a temporary, not permanent structure.
Mr. James Aufderhide, the satellite dish installer
representing the Fererras explained that the antenna mast is sunk
into a pier of concrete. The dish antenna is then set on the pole
and adjusted to the correct height. The assembly is not unlike a
"tree -type" clothes line which too can be sunk in concrete. To
remove the antenna one would remove the satellite dish from the
pole and dig up the concrete pier.
Board members asked for clarification regarding placement of
the antenna. Referring to the site plan, Mr. Aufderhide explained
that the dense tree line and height of the garage on the west
property line causes the dish to be angled at 16 feet in order to
receive the signal.
Following a brief discussion, Lois Wilder moved for approval
of the permit for modification predicated upon the fact that:
1. The satellite
2. The satellite
house and will
3. The satellite
street.
dish antenna is a
dish antenna will
be erected in the
dish will not be
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temporary structure.
not be attached to the
rear yard, and
visible from the front
John Cooney seconded. the motion. All voted aye; motion
carried.
III. 14TH ANNUAL. HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSIONICLG WORKSHOP:
On April 23 1993, Marilyn Curtis and Joyce Repya attended the
14th Annual HPC Workshop put on by the Minnesota Historical
Society. The workshop was held in the new History Center in St.
Paul.
Britta Bloomberg, the Deputy State Historic Preservation
Officer welcomed the participants and provided an overview of the
workshop.
Charles Nelson, the State Historical Architect presented an
excellent program addressing design review, particularly as it
pertains to the "Main Street" commerce areas.
Constance Beaumont with the National Trust for Historic
Preservation addressed the group, encouraging local commissions to
get involved in preserving their history.
Ms. Curtis and Ms. Repya a both considered the workshop
worthwhile and encouraged all Board members to attend the 15th
Annual Workshop in 1994.
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
- Browndale Bridge Report -
Gary Nyberg advised the Board that he attended a neighborhood
(Country Club District) meeting held by Fran Hoffman, the City
Engineer to discuss and learn of options for renovations to the
Browndale Bridge.
Mr. Hoffman explained that this was an informational gathering
session at which time staff would like to find out which direction
the neighborhood would like the City to move. Some options Mr.
Hoffman offered included:
1. To restore the existing structure
2. To restore the existing structure with one-way use.
3. To restore the existing structure with one-way bridge and
one-way east of the Mill site.
4. To maintain the existing lower portion with new deck to
allow two-way traffic.
5. To close the bridge and cul-de-sac Browndale Bridge.
6. Replace the existing structure and dam, and
7. To do nothing.
Mr. Hoffman pointed out that the project will require input
from many and no timeline had bepnestablished.
Mr. Nyberg noted that the neighborhood was largely represented
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by residents from Browndale and Wooddale Avenues whose concerns
centered around traffic density and speed. Consulting traffic
engineers were present and offered possible ramifications of the
alternatives.
Mr. Hoffman advised the neighbors that their traffic concerns
would be addressed to the Traffic Safety Committee. At the end of
the meeting a sign-up sheet was passed for those interested in
serving on the Browndale Bridge Project review team.
Mr. Nyberg will be serving on the review team representing the
Heritage Preservation Board as well as the Casco Avenue residents.
He will be updating the HPB on progress of the project in the
months ahead.
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
May 25, 1993 at "The Baird House" home of Jack and Marilyn
Curtis, 4400 West 50th Street, 7:00 p.m.
VII. ADJOURNMENT:
8:00 P.M.
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
MONDAY, MAY 24, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
GEORGE BAIRD HOUSE, 4400 WEST 50TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman, Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, Marilyn
Curtis, John McCauley, and Donald Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT: Herman Ratelle and Lois Wilder
STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Marilyn Curtis moved for approval of the minutes from the
April 27, 1993, meeting. John McCauley seconded the motion. All
voted aye; motion carried.
II. PERMITS FOR MODIFICATION:
A. Jonathan Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street
Request: 1. Family Room Addition, and
2. Landscape Plan
1. Family Room Addition
Chairman Gary Nyberg introduced Mr. John Newell, designer of
the proposed addition to the Grimes house who advised the Board
that a 2516" X 1616" family room/dinette addition is planned to
replace the existing 15' X 816" family room. This small family
room was originally a porch added to the house in the early 19001s;
over the years, it was converted to a family room/library.
The proposed family room measures 1716" X 1616" with a
vaulted, beamed ceiling. The windows on either side of the
fireplace are similar to those in the original formal dining room;
and a bay window topped with a gothic window above as found on the
east and north elevations has been included to provide a continuity
of the gothic design to the addition.
The proposed dinette area measuring 8' X 1616" has an 8 foot
ceiling with a flat roof to ensure that window spaces on the second
floor are not compromised. The rooftop deck railing will match the
railings on the original structure and removable cedar deck panels
are proposed over the rubber membrane on the flat roof. A full
view door is proposed to replace a window on the north wall of the
west bedroom to provide access on to the deck.
Mr. Newell pointed out that on the east wall of the existing
kitchen a window will be replaced with a pocket door to provide
access into the new dining area.
Addressing the exterior of the plan, Mr. Newell explained that
3" lap siding is proposed, as found in the original structure. The
12:12 pitch of the shed roof is consistent with the existing roof
lines as are the cedar shake shingles proposed; and the addition
will be painted to match the existing structure.
Chairman Nyberg asked if snow loads on the proposed flat roof
over the dining area had been considered. Mr. Newell explained
that the flat roof should not cause a problem for snow removal or
drainage, adding that the original house has a flat roof over each
bay. The flat roof design was chosen for the dinette addition to
save two windows on the second story.
Marilyn Curtis asked if plans have been made for the
outbuilding at the rear of the property. Mr. Newell explained that
the two windows taken out of the house to allow for the addition
will be used in the out building which the Ferrera's will use as a
warming house for their backyard ice rink.
Chairman Nyberg asked if the Ferrera's have plans to change
the design of the garage so it complements the house. Mr. Newell
explained that the Ferrera's have identified the garage as an
element of their home which they will change so it will complement
the dwelling, not detract from it, however currently, the garage is
not a priority during this phase of construction.
The Board discussed the provision in the "Secretary of the
Interior's Standards for Rehabilitation" which states that it is
not recommended to duplicate the exact form, material, style, and
detailing of the historic building in a new addition so that the
new work appears to be part of the historic building.
Several board members expressed frustration with that
provision pointing out that while the proposed addition appears to
exactly copy the historic house, they would hate to see an addition
that did not complement the house as well as this proposal does.
Chairman Nyberg observed that the Secretary of the Interior
Standards would favor a more contemporary addition to the house;
then one could easily pick out the original structure from the
addition. He added that he too favored the proposed addition over
one which would be less complementary.
John Newell advised the Board that the flat roof over the
dining area and the lap sided chimney both set the addition apart
from the original house.
Mr. Newell added that the Ferreras are period oriented people.
They purchased the Grimes House because of their love for Gothic
Revival architecture; and they would not be interested in proposing
an addition that did not complement the original structure.
John McCauley asked if the addition would be visible from the
front street. Mr. Newell explained that the addition would be
located completely in the rear yard and wouldn't be visible from
the front street.
Marilyn Curtis commented that she felt the proposed plan would
not compromise the historical integrity of the original structure.
Chairman Nyberg stated that he liked the proposed plan. His only
question was the issue of the flat roof over the dining area.
However, as long as the homeowner is aware that the snow will not
readily melt on the north side of the house and they may have to
shovel it after a heavy snowfall, he didn't have a problem with it.
Discussion ensued regarding the possibility of adding heating
coils to the flat roof.
Donald Wray then moved for approval of the addition subject to
the plans dated May 6, 1993. John Cooney seconded the motion. All
voted aye; the motion carried.
2. Landscape Plan (front yard)
John Newell explained that the proposed landscape plan for the
front yard of the Grimes House strives to complement the home's
Gothic Revival Architecture. The addition of period plantings to
include hostas, arborvitae, and juniper are proposed. A four foot
wide brick sidewalk will replace the two foot walk leading from the
front door west to the driveway. The existing sidewalk leading
from the street to the front door will remain, and where these two
sidewalks intersect, a circular planting bed is proposed with a
flagpole at its center.
The plan proposes removal of a spruce tree east of the
driveway and a silver maple east of the front walk. The silver
maple will be replaced by three Blackhills spruce, and will allow
more room for an existing sugar maple. The proposed spruce trees
will match the three Blackhills spruce proposed for the west side
of the yard.
Mr. Newell added that the proposed landscape plan is designed
to draw attention away from the garage and promote views while at
the same time provide some privacy from the busy West 44th Street.
Donald Wray asked if the proposed landscape plan would change the
exterior appearance of the house in an attempt to screen it from
the street.
Mr. Newell explained that the foundation plantings are lower
so no windows will be obscured. Upright arborvitae will be planted
at the corners of the house to extend the evergreen up into the
facade of the home. Otherwise the rest of the plantings will be
low lying. The three Blackhills spruce trees planted on the east
and west sides of the yard near the street, provide a viewing
pocket whereby the residents are provided privacy while the best
view of the house, on dead -center at the street will be afforded.
Gary Nyberg asked why the flagpole was planned at the
intersection of the two walks.
Mr. Newell stated that the flagpole could be anything and he
wasn't sure the Ferrera's wanted it; however the curvilinear shape
of the walkway intersection lent itself to something at its center,
be it a flagpole or a raised annual garden, that item is open.
Board members discussed the possibilities of a sundial, urn or
mirrored ball used in place of the flagpole. Chairman Nyberg
pointed out that the flagpole would not be in keeping with the
1860's era of the house and would only serve to detract from its
views.
Mr. Newell said a substitution for the flagpole would not be
a problem and he would consider the Board's suggestions.
Marilyn Curtis then moved to accept the landscape plan. John
McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
B. Baird House, 4400 West 50th Street
Jack and Marilyn Curtis, owners of the Baird house advised the
Board that they are planning on making the following improvements
this summer and fall:
1. Replace the shingles on the gable ends with cedar
fishscale shingles, and paint to match existing
2. Tear -off and replace asphalt shingles on roof; install
ice shields and copper flashings.
3. Replace rotted roof and fascia boards moldings and
4. Replace the gutters duplicating the original gutters.
5. Repair front steps with Mankato stone reproduced to match
the original specifications.
6. Add copper flashing to the front and side porches where
they meet the house, and
7. Replace the rotted bottom plate and side boards on the
outbuilding west of the house.
Board members then toured the exterior of the home as the
Curtis addressed each proposed improvement, explaining the methods
and materials to be used.
Donald Wray moved for approval of the renovation plans as
proposed. John Cooney seconded the motion. Marilyn Curtis
abstained from voting, however, the remaining board members voted
aye; motion carried.
Chairman Nyberg then commended the Curtiss for their
dedication to the Baird House and the terrific job of both
maintaining and renovating the home.
III. OTHER BUSINESS: None
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE: June 22, 1993
V. ADJOURNMENT: 9:00 p.m.
Joy a Rep a
A G E N D A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, JUNE 22, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
I. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT:
II. BROWNDALE BRIDGE UPDATE:
III. WOODDALE PARR MONUMENT:
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
V. NEXT MEETING DATE:
July 27, 1993
VI. ADJOURNMENT:
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, JUNE 22, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, Herman
Ratelle, Lois Wilder and Donald Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT: Marilyn Curtis and John McCauley
STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner
Fran Hoffman, City Engineer
OTHERS PRESENT: Ann Warner, Consultant with Strgar-Roscoe-
Fausch, Inc.
I. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT:
Ms. Repya advised the Board that as a result of neighborhood
meetings Fran Hoffman, City Engineer has had with the Country Club
District regarding the Browndale Bridge, concerns about traffic
control in the district have come to light.
Evidence from a traffic engineer's study shows that a majority
of the vehicle trips in and out of the district are attributed to
non-residents who are passing through.
The traffic engineer's report showed 23,500 vehicle trips in
and out of the district are attributed to non-residents who are
passing through.
The traffic engineer's report showed 23,500 vehicle trips in
and out of the district; of those trips, 8,000 were locally
generated. The remaining 15,500 trips were attributed to non-
residents.
Ms. Repya continued to explain that in an effort to reduce the
level of non -local traffic through the district the options of
reducing the speed limit through the district, adding more stop
signs and reconfiguring the geometric shape of several traffic
islands are being considered.
The option of reconfiguring the traffic islands is one which
would require Heritage Preservation Board review since the original
street scape of the historic district would be modified.
The three locations where the possibility of reconfiguring the
traffic islands is being considered are at 1. "Browndale Avenue
and Country Club Road. 2. Wooddale Avenue and Country Club Road,
and 3. Wooddale Avenue and Sunnyside Road (north end).
The proposal entails filling in one leg of the roadway around
the traffic island with greenspace, creating more of a diversion.
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It is hoped that by providing less of a straight shot, short cuts
through the district would be reduced.
Ms. Repya pointed out that the original plats for the district
does not illustrate the subject traffic islands. However, an air
photo of the district from 1930 does show all of the traffic
islands in place as they appear today.
Because the Country Club District is locally zoned HPD and on
the National. Register of Historic Places, any changes to the
street scape must come before the Heritage Preservation Board.
Fran Hoffman, City Engineer introduced Ann Warner the
Engineering Consultant with Strgar=Rosch-Fausch who has been
addressing the historic aspects of the traffic study. He then
relayed the history of the traffic study beginning with the
Browndale Bridge issue.
Mr. Hoffman explained that as a result of the traffic study,
it appears that Browndale Avenue is functioning like a frontage
road for Highway 100. Wooddale Avenue acts as a throughway all the
way from the north at Excelsior Boulevard with little overflow to
the east/west streets. The third traffic element the City has been
aware of for quite some time is the diagonal flow through the
district from Sunnyside Road to the Browndale Bridge. The traffic
volume on the bridge has doubled over the past 20 years from 2,000
cars per cay to 4,000 cars per day.
Addressing traffic volume in the district Mr. Hoffman
explained that in the past 20 years the traffic on Browndale Bridge
has doubled from 2,000 cars per day to 4,000 cars per day.
Wooddale Avenue at West 50th Street also carries about 4,500 cars
per day. However, Bruce and Arden Avenue carry only 1,000 to 1,500
cars per day which is probably less than they should be.
John Cooney asked Mr. Hoffman where the traffic would go if it
were re-routed. Mr. Hoffman explained that no decision has been
made to re-route the traffic. The traffic study committee is
currently looking at traffic control scenarios. The issue of re-
routing traffic is premature right now.
Gary Nyberg asked Mr. Hoffman if there were other
neighborhoods in Edina struggling with similar traffic issues of
volume and speed. Mr. Hoffman explained that while there are other
neighborhoods concerned about traffic issues, the Country Club
District is unique because none of the streets are designated as
the collector roadway.
Mr. Nyberg pointed out that in reality, the statistics appear
to support the fact that Browndale and Wooddale Avenues are
collector streets irregardless of whether they were planned that
way.
Mr. Hoffman said that one could make that argument. The
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traffic committee would like to ensure that the numbers do not
increase.
John Cooney observed that while the traffic has increased over
the past twenty years, the population has increased as well;
Mr. Hoffman explained that the increase in traffic can be
attributed to more cars on the highways, however, the consultants
were surprised with the amount of through traffic through
II. BRO`PNDALE BRIDGE UPDATE:
Mr. Hoffman reviewed the history of the bridge study which his
department has undertaken over the past months. At this point it
appears that the state requires the roadbed of two-way bridge to be
at least 22 feet to the outside of the guardrail, however due to
the stone pillars, the driving surface measures only 18 feet
across.
There are three options available short of widening the bridge
to bring it into compliance.
1. Change the traffic flow on the bridge to one-way leading into
the district,
2. Change the traffic flow on the bridge to a one-way existing
the district, or
3. Redesign the deck topping of the bridge so the guardrail
structure would cantilever over the outside edge of the deck.
The guardrail would then run along the outside edge and the
actual driving surface would be the 22 feet required,
Mr. Hoffman shared that he felt the best option would be to
maintain the two-way traffic flow because it would not redistribute
traffic in the district as either of the one-way traffic options
would.
A design has not been created at this time. This is the last
issue to be dealt with after the traffic concerns in the district
have been addressed.
Mr. Hoffman assured the Board that when design plans for the
bridge have been developed, he will again come before them for
design review. However, he does not foresee anything happening for
at least two years.
Ann Warner advised the Board that when she discussed the
Browndale Bridge with Dennis Gimmestad from the State Historic
Preservation Office, he stressed his concern that the bridge be
changed as little as possible. After she explained the option of
modifying the bridge deck to utilize the full 22 feet and replacing
the guardrails on the outer edge of the roadway to more closely
resemble the original bridge Mr. Gimmestad agreed that he felt that
was a preferable plan.
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Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Hoffman and Ms. Warner for
updating the Board on the Browndale Bridge status, adding that he
felt they were moving in the right direction. No formal action was
taken.
III. WOODDALE PARR MONUMENT:
Mrs. Repya advised the Board that the Park Department was in
the process of erecting the monument to Wooddale School and the
Country Club District in the southeast corner of Wooddale Park very
close to the spot where Wooddale School once stood. Bricks from
the old school as well as decorative columns and the school's
memorial tablets are being used to construct the wall.
Chairman Nyberg explained that the monument is part of a
memorial for a young boy, Philip Wesley who died last year. In
addition to the monument wall, a wooden flag pole topped with a
golden eagle is also included in the plan. The project is being
funded through the generosity of the Wesley family in memory of
their young son.
Ms. Repya reminded the Board that the Park Director, Bob
Kojetin had asked them to write the narrative for two placques to
be incorporated into the memorial; the first plaque to commemorate
the historic Country Club District and the second to commemorate
the old Wooddale School. Board members agreed that Marilyn Curtis
would do an excellent job of writing the narratives and Lois Wilder
would edit them. No formal action was taken.
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
July 27, 1993
V. ADJOURNMENT:
7:45 p.m. /
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City of Edina
M E M O R A N D U M
TO: Heritage Preservation Board
FROM: Joyce Repya
SUBJECT: HPB Meetings
DATE: July 23, 1993
The regularly scheduled meetings for July 27 and August 24,
1993 will not be held due to vacation conflicts and a lack of
subject matter.
Our next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, September 28, 1993.
Enjoy your summer!
City Hall (612) 927-8861
4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 927-7645
EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (612) 927-5461
A G E N D A
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
May 24, 1993
June 22, 1993
II. CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM:
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III. OTHER BUSINESS:
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE: October 26, 1993
V. ADJOURNMENT:
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 1993, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, Jack Cooney, John
McCauley, Herman Ratelle, Lois Wilder, and
Donald Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT: Marilyn Curtis
STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Herman Ratelle moved for approval of the minutes from the May
24, 1993, and June 22, 1993, meetings. Lois Wilder seconded the
motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
II. CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM:
Chairman Nyberg advised the Board that he had received letters
from the United States Department of the Interior and the Minnesota
Historical Society congratulating the City for being accepted into
the Certified Local Government Program. Mr. Nyberg then turned the
letters over to Ms. Repya who will add them to the permanent CLG
file.
Board members discussed options for possible projects which
could qualify for CLG Program. Ms. Repya reminded the Board that
the projects must be related to planning, surveys or inventories.
Donald Wray suggested the Board might study the history of the
Morningside section of Edina.
The creation of a map identifying the age of development
through out City was another suggestion of the Board.
A brief discussion followed. No action was taken.
III. OTHER BUSINESS:
None.
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE: October 26, 1993
V. ADJOURNMENT: 7:45 p.m.
Joyce-Repya
M E M O R A N D U M
TO: Heritage Preservation Board
FROM: Joyce Repya
SUBJECT: December Meeting, Tuesday, December 28th
DATE: December 23, 1993
You guessed it -- due to the holiday hub -bub and lack of
pressing business, the regularly scheduled Heritage Preser-
vation Board meeting for December will not be held.
Have a safe/happy holiday and the very best in 1994!!!