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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997 HPB Meeting Minutes RegularAGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JANUARY 28, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: October 3, 1995 II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street, Garage Modification III. SUBURBAN HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION ROUNDTABLE: Local History and Archaeology Curriculum IV. ANNUAL HPC/CLG TRAINING WORKSHOP: May 15-16, 1997 Landmark Center, St. Paul. V. OTHER BUSINESS: VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: Tuesday, February 25, 1997 VI. AD]OURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDSAY, JANUARY 28, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM MEMBERS PRESENT: Chainnan Gary Nyberg, Marilyn Curtis, Heenan Ratelle, John McCauley, and Donald Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: John Cooney and Lois Wilder PUBLIC PRESENT: Karen Ferrara, 4200 West 44th Street STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya S I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Herman Ratelle moved for approval of the minutes from the October 3, 1995, meeting of the Heritage Preservation Board. Donald Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION Grimes House, 4200 West 42nd Street, Garage Modification Joyce Repya advised the Board that Bruce and Karen Ferrara, owners of the Grimes House are proposing to modify the exterior of the existing attached three - car garage to bring it in keeping with the architectural style of the house. City records indicate that the subject garage was constructed in 1962. It appears that the Gothic Revival architectural style of the house was not taken into consideration at that time as evidenced by the contemporary style of the garage. The garage currently has a slight gabled end roof with a 4/12 pitch and two doors; the one closest to the house is a double door and the door on the west end is a single door. Ms. Repya pointed out that a proposed renovation schedule dated August, 1978, from the owners at that time, Dr. and Mrs. Richard Stallard indicated a desire to blend the three -car garage with the style of the house. No action was taken on that plan. Currently, Bruce and Karen Ferrara are presenting a plan which shows change to the front roof line from a gradual slope to a flat roof (the back portion of the roof will remain unchanged). A railing to match the railing on the second, story of the house on the west side is proposed above the flat roof on the south and west sides of the garage. Ms. Repya also indicated that the existing garage doors will be replaced with three single doors which will have decorative wood trim and a lantern over each door, in keeping with the Gothic Revival style of the house. The plans also show four 6 X 6" support pillars spanning the front of the garage which will bear the weight of the overhang and railing. In closing, Ms. Repya stated that the Ferrara's propose construction to last about seven weeks and would like to begin the project as soon as the Heritage Preservation Board has approved their plan. Karen Ferrara addressed the Board explaining that when the house was built in the 1800's garages didn't exist, however, there were carriage pull throughs which is the theme they are hoping to replicate. Gary Nyberg asked if there would be a porch on the west side of the house, next to the garage. Mrs. Ferrara stated that a porch at the side entry door was proposed. Herman Ratelle asked for clarification on the current design of the garage. Mrs. Ferrara explained that the garage which was built in the 1960's has a contemporary style three car garage with a single door and a double door. The single door is a pass through to the rearyard accessed through a single door to the north side of the garage. Gary Nyberg pointed out that the garage as it stands today does not fit the house. The only element that does work with the house are the matching colors. Gary Nyberg asked if they had considered incorporating the flat roof with a railing theme to the back of the garage. Mrs. Ferrara said that they had entertained that idea, but decided to keep a slope on the roof in the rear of the garage to facilitate snow removal. 2 Marilyn Curtis asked for clarification of the design work shown to go over each door. Mrs. Ferrara explained that the designs would be panels applied over each door with a lantern centered over each door Following a brief discussion Herman Ratelle moved for approval of the plans as presented subject to the paint matching the house. Marilyn Curtis seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. III. SUBURBAN HERITAGE PRESERVATION ROUNDTABLE: Joyce Repya advised the Board that the second meeting of the Suburban Heritage Preservation Roundtable took place on Saturday, November 23, 1996, at Starring Lake Outdoor Center in Eden Prairie. Herman Ratelle and Ms. Repya represented Edina. Other cities in attendance included Cottage Grove, Eden Prairie, and Minnetonka. The main topics for the morning included landmark recognition programs as well as historic educational projects underway in the participating cities. Herman Ratelle expressed how impressed he was with the interest, knowledge and concern for community displayed by the cities in attendance at the meeting. Of particular interest, was the work of the Eden Prairie HPC in conjunction with the Eden Prairie school district. A curriculum was developed for all 6th graders in the district focusing on the local history and archaeology of Eden Prairie. The Institute for Minnesota Archaeology (IMA) produced the curriculum to provide students with a grounding in the role archaeology can play in understanding a peoples past. Karolyn Smardz of the Institute for Minnesota Archaeology had sent Edina portions of Eden Prairies curriculum which Ms. Repya mailed to the Heritage Preservation Board members to review prior to tonight's meeting. Ms. Repya advised the Board that the curriculum was prepared for the City of Eden Prairie, funded in part by a grant from the U.S. Parks Service, administered by the Minnesota Historical Society. The IMA worked with the 6th grade teachers of the Eden Prairie School District in developing the curriculum. In closing, Ms. Repya explained that if the Board was interested in pursuing a similar. education piece with the Edina School District, Karolyn Smardz, Manager of Public Archaeology and Development for the IMA would be willing and eager to attend the February HPB meeting. Discussion ensued regarding the level of information on local history currently available to the students in Edina. Board members agrees that it would 3 be a good idea to pursue a similar program with the school district and the IMA, board members asked Ms. Repya to invite Karolyn Smardz to the February HPB meeting. No formal action was taken. IV. ANNUAL HPC/CLG TRAINING WORKSHOP: May 15-16, 1997, Landmark Center, St. Paul Ms. Repya advised the Board that the date for the annual training workshop had been set for May 15 8t 16, 1997, at the Landmark Center in St. Paul. As in previous years, it is a requirement for Edina's Certified Local Government status that Edina send at least one representative from the Board to the workshop. Ms. Repya asked board members to mark their calendars and promised more information as it becomes available. V. OTHER BUSINESS: A. Cahill School/Grange Hall - Sprinkling for Fire Protection Ms. Repya advised the Board that the Park and Recreation Department who oversees the maintenance of the City's historic buildings is looking into interior sprinkling of the Cahill School and Grange Hall for fire protection. There is not a proposal to present at this time, however, one will be forth coming in the next few months. Discussion ensued among the Board members regarding the importance of sprinkling the wooden buildings. Gary Nyberg asked if a design had been done. Ms. Repya explained that she wasn't aware of a plan at this time. Mr. Nyberg expressed his concern for a plan that would be the least obtrusive as not to interfere with the historic integrity of the buildings be considered. Herman Ratelle made a motion that a design layout of the fire protection plan being proposed for each building be presented for review by the Heritage Preservation Board before any activity proceed with this project; John McCauley seconded the motion; the motion carried. 4 All B. George Baird House - 4400 West 50th Street Update - New Roof on Barn Marilyn Curtis, Board member and owner of the Baird House updated the Board on the status of the roofing job being undertaken for the barn on her property. She explained that the front half of the roof on the south side had been completed, however the back half on the north side has stalled due to the winter weather. Once spring settles in, Mrs. Curtis stated that the remainder of the roof would be completed. VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: February 25, 1997 VII. ADIOURNMENT: 7:50 P.M. 5 Joyce Repya AGENDA A'G 1 r� REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: January 28, 1997 II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street, New Roof III. LOCAL HISTORY AND ARCHAEOLOGY CURRICULUM IV. ELECTION OF OFFICIERS V. OTHER BUSINESS VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: March 25, 1997 VII. ADJOURNMENT AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, MARCH 25, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: ]anuary 28, 1997 II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street, New Roof III. LOCAL HISTORY AND ARCHAELOGY CURRICULUM: IV. ELECTION OF OFFICERS: V. OTHER BUSINESS: VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: April 22, 1997 VII. ADIOURNMENT: • MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, MARCH 25, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, Lois Wilder and Donald Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Herman Ratelle PUBLIC PRESENT: John McCarthy, Institute for Minnesota Archaeology STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Donald Wray moved for approval of the minutes from the January 28, 1997, meeting of the Heritage Preservation Board. John Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. 11. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Grimes House, 4200 West 44' Street, New Roof Joyce Repya advised the board that Bruce and Karen Ferrara are proposing to re -roof their home and garage using cedar shingles and copper valleys. Currently, the house has cedar shingles and galvanized valleys. Board members briefly discussed the proposal agreeing that the plans were in keeping with the integrity of the home. Lois Wilder moved for approval of the modification request per the plans presented. John Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. III. LOCAL HISTORY AND AR HAELOGY CURRICULUM: Ms. Repya reminded the board that the Institute for Minnesota Archaeology has worked with the City of Eden Prairie to create a curriculum incorporating both history and archaeology for the City's 6th graders. At the January HPB meeting the board expressed interest in the possibility of pursuing a similar program for Edina. Ms. Repya then introduced Mr. John McCarthy, Senior Archaeologist with the Institute for Minnesota Archaeology who agreed to address the work of the Institute and the possibilities of future work in Edina. Mr. McCarthy gave a brief history of his organization explaining that they were a private/non-profit established in 1982. He explained that they were not affiliated with the Minnesota State Historical Society, but often work closely with them on projects. Mr. McCarthy reviewed several projects the IMA has been affiliated with in the past to include locating the site of the original Hamline University in Red Wing, dating back to 1854; historic data recovery at the new Federal Building site in Minneapolis; as well development implementation of a 61h grade curriculum for Eden Prairie. Mr. McCarthy stressed the importance of looking at the past to determine where we are today as well as delving into the past to see what is unique and special about a community. He pointed out that in addition to the curriculum for Eden Prairie, the IMA is also working on similar history/archaeology curriculums for Red Wing and North Minneapolis. Board members asked Mr. McCarthy if the IMA started their curriculum planning with the Eden Prairie school system or the Eden Prairie Heritage Preservation Commission. Mr. McCarthy explained that the initial contact was made with the Eden Prairie Heritage Preservation Commission. The school was brought in at a later date. Mr. McCarthy indicated that if Edina were to pursue a similar historic curriculum, he would recommend the school district be involved from the get -go. Addressing a question regarding the funding for the Eden Prairie Curriculum, Mr. McCarthy explained that MNDOT and Certified Local Government (CLG) funds were used. He added that the matching funds which are required for CLG loans may come from private foundations, the local school district, or CDBG (Community Development Block Grant) funds. Asked if the Eden Prairie School District participated in funding the curriculum, Mr. McCarthy stated that no direct dollars came from the school district, however, staff time was involved in planning and implementing the curriculum. 2 Don Wray asked Mr. McCarthy what he felt the objective of a history/archaeology curriculum should be. Mr. McCarthy explained that the curriculum would help the student view their environment in context with the relationship of historic people and events. Following a brief discussion, Board members asked Ms. Repya if she would talk with curriculum representatives from the school district to see if they would be interested in participating in an historic curriculum similar to Eden Prairie; Ms. Repya would then report back to the Board. No formal action was taken. IV. ELECTION OF OFFICERS: John Cooney moved to reinstate Gary Nyberg as chairman and Donald Wray as vice chairman of the Heritage Preservation Board. Lois Wilder seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. V. OTHER BUSINESS: ■ Grange Hall/Cahill School - Sprinkling for Fire Protection Gary Nyberg explained that he had a meeting with John Keprios, Park Director when the topic of sprinkling the Cahill School and Grange Hall was discussed. The following questions were raised at that time: 1. Do the buildings need to be sprinkled? Who is requesting this be done? 2. Is sprinkling is necessary, are there alternatives other than running water pipes across the ceiling?, and 3. What are some aesthetically pleasing alternatives that would achieve the safety goals, yet be unobtrusive? Board members discussed the rationale for installing a fire sprinkling system in the Cahill School and Grange Hall; agreeing that they would prefer a design to be as unobtrusive as possible. Gary Nyberg asked that the Park Department present several design alternatives for the HPB to consider at the next meeting. No formal action was taken. VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: April 22, 1997 VII. ADJOURNMENT: 8:00 P 3 MEMORANDUM TO: Heritage Preservation Board FROM: Joyce Repya SUBJECT: April 22, 1997 HPB Meeting / May 15, 1997 Annual Historic Preservation Conference DATE: April 17, 1997 The regularly scheduled Heritage Preservation Board Meeting for Tuesday, April 22, 1997 will not be held due to lack of subject matter. However, now is the time to let me know if you'll be able to attend the Annual Historic Preservation Conference*, Thursday, May 15, 1997, at the Landmark Center, St. Paul. Please contact me no later than Monday, April 28th to advise me whether or not you will be able to attend. The City will pay the $35.00 registration fee for board members attending, but I must know by the 28tH ©1*,Til469--_=W Respond yea or nay by April 28th. My number is 927-8861. THANKS!! Tph�s is all .=vc. 0 re")V 60 far... . Annual Historic Preservation Conference Wednesday, May 14, 1 to 7 p.m. & Thursday, May 15, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Landmark Center, 75 West Fifth St., St. Paul The conference begins with a behind -the -scenes tour of the Sibley House Historic Site, Historic Fort Snelling and Landmark Center from 1 to 5 p.m. followed by a reception at Landmark Center from 5:30 to 7 p.m. Highlights of Thursday's program include keynote addresses by Richard Moe, president of the National Trust for Historic Preservation, and Mary Hughes, historic landscape architect for the University of Virginia. Concurrent sessions will cover such topics as: legislative issues affecting historic preservation, developing heritage education curricula, and sensitive remodeling options for bungalows. For more information, cal] (612) 296-5434. Registration fee: $35.00. �noksr � interest'! . AGENDA RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, MAY 20, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: March 25, 1997 II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Cahill School/Grange Hall - Fire Sprinkling System III. REPORT ON PRESERVE MINNESOTA: I 18th Annual Historic Preservation Conference, held May 15, 1997. IV. OTHER BUSINESS: V. NEXT MEETING DATE: June 24, 1997 VI. ADJOURNMENT k -11'v MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, MAY 20, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman, Gary Nyberg, Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Herman Ratelle and Donald Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: John Cooney and Lois Wilder STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya John Keprios, Park and Recreation Director Herman Ratelle moved to approve the minutes from the March 25, 1997, meeting of the Heritage Preservation Board. Marilyn Curtis seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. W -4 Wd Is 19A: ilei •N Cahill School/Grange Hall - Fire Sprinkling System Chairman Nyberg introduced John Keprios, Park and Recreation Director who oversees the maintenance of both the Grange Hall and Cahill School. Mr. Keprios advised the Board that the subject of fire sprinkling the Cahill School and Grange Hall was initially raised by the Historical Society in response to concerns that if a fire were to occur in one of the structures, the building would be lost before the fire department could get to the scene. Responding to the question. "is the sprinkling of these historic buildings required or mandatory?" Mr. Keprios explained that the city's Fire Marshal stated that the buildings are not required to be sprinkled, however chances of them surviving a blaze would increase considerably with the addition of a fire suppression system. r,, Ms. Repya pointed out that Charles Nelson, the State Historic Architect would review all plans for a sprinkling system, and he has indicated that whatever system we would choose should be hidden. Mr. Keprios explained that he has researched the approximate cost of installing a fire sprinkling system and discovered a price range of $40,000 to $50,000 which far exceeds the $16,000 earmarked initially. Discussion ensued among the Board regarding the value of the structures versus the cost of a sprinkling system. The point was made that the historic value of the buildings can't be measured in dollars and cents. If the buildings were to be destroyed, they couldn't be replaced - the loss to the community would be huge. Herman Ratelle asked if the risk of fire was that great. Mr. Keprios pointed out that in the past 20 years he knows of only two fires in public buildings. He also pointed out that currently, sprinkling systems are installed in new City buildings. He could not recall the installation of a sprinkling system in an existing structure that has not been part of major remodeling project. Marilyn Curtis wondered that since both buildings are on the National Register of Historic Places if any funding would be available to pay for this project. Ms. Repya explained that she checked with the State Historic Preservation Office and was told that a fire suppression system could only qualify for grant funding if it were part of an overall restoration project. Mr. Keprios asked the Board if they felt $50,000 was a reasonable expense for a sprinkling system and something they would want to pursue. The Board agreed that if grant money was available, the added protection of a sprinkling system would make sense. Mr. Keprios pointed out that if funding were not available, he could bankroll the $16,000 set aside for this project for future use. Donald Wray questioned the efficiency of a sprinkling system; pointing out that in the event of a fire, if a fire suppression system saves only the side walls, would the City want to rebuild the structures, since the historic element would be lost. Chairman Nyberg asked how the insurance rates for the buildings would be affected if they were to be sprinkled. Discussion ensued relative to the insurance covered on the buildings. Herman Ratelle suggested that staff review the policies to determine the affect, if any sprinkling would have. 2 Mr. Keprios opined that fire suppression systems are great for large buildings. But for small buildings, once a fire gets hot enough to trip the sprinkling system, is there anything salvageable remaining? Following a brief discussion, Board Members agreed that more information was needed. Mr. Keprios agreed to come to the next meeting when he will provide the following: photos of the interior of both structures showing where a sprinkling system would most likely be installed. information about the current insurance coverage (what's covered, what's not), and any information about previous security systems. No formal action was taken. III. PRESERVE MINNESOTA WORKSHOP - May 15, 1997 Ms. Repya advised the Board that she and Donald Wray represented the City of Edina at the 18'hannual Historic Preservation Conference held at the historic Landmark Center in St. Paul. The keynote speaker for the event was Roger Moe, President, National Trust for Historic Preservation who addressed how preservation can be successfully integrated into strategies for revitalizing historic small town commercial districts. Mr. Moe emphasized controlling urban sprawl and maintaining a downtown's vitality. Ms. Repya explained that six workshops were held during the day, some simultaneously so she and Mr. Wray each went to two different sessions. Ms. Repya attended the "Grants and Loan Samplers" session where several presentations from federal and state agencies occurred. She took copious notes and walked away with a list of possible funding sources not just for heritage preservation, but also for the City's recreation and transportation programs. The second session Ms. Repya attended "Teaching Preservation: Heritage Preservation Curricula" was of particular interest due to the previous discussions the Board has had regarding developing an historic curriculum with the Edina schools. A wonderful example was a curriculum done by the Faribault Public Schools in concert with the Faribault Heritage Preservation Commission. This curriculum was developed at the 6th grade level, dovetailing the state history curriculum taught at that time. Unlike the curriculum the Board had previously reviewed from Eden Prairie which centered around an archeological dig, Faribault developed a history driven curriculum which would more closely meet Edina's make-up; we have a strong museum as well as the written history from the "History and Architecture of Edina, Minnesota" by Jeffrey 3 Hess and William Scott to work from. Board members have agreed that a curriculum based upon archaeology wouldn't be practical in Edina due to the scarcity of vacant land. Donald Wray explained that he and his wife attended a tour of the Sibley House in St. Paul which was offered on the day before the main workshop and found that very informative. The two work, sessions Mr. Wray attended were entitled "Silos and Smokestacks: A Heritage Preservation Case Study" and "Standard Floor Plans for Bungalows: Sensitive Remodeling Options for the 90's." The Silos to Smokestacks presentation highlighted how a coalition of Iowa communities is successfully using historic preservation as an economic development tool. The presentation on Bungalows highlighted areas in the twin cities; 101 Avenue near Minnehaha Falls and the Longfellow Bungalow District where efforts are underway to preserve the character of the craftsman -style homes. Speakers included members of the Longfellow Community Council of Minneapolis as well as the Twin Cities Bungalow Club. Mr. Wray pointed out that possibly owners of Edina's bungalows predominately along West 44`h Street would find these organizations interesting. Both Ms. Repya and Mr. Wray agreed that this years workshop was most worthwhile and encouraged all Board members to attend the Spring 1998 Conference. IV. OTHER BUSINESS: None V. NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING: June 24, 1997 VI. ADJOURNMENT: Herman Ratelle moved for adjournment. John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. 8:15 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, Joyce Repya 4 AGENDA RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD MONDAY, OCTOBER 27, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROAL OF THE MINUTES: May 20, 1997 11. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Continued Cahill School/Grange Hall - Fire Sprinkling System III. LOCAL HISTORY CURRICULUM: IV. OTHER BUSINESS: V. NEXT MEETING DATE: /ovum lht," ZS, /q q % VI. ADJOURNMENT: V" i MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD MONDAY, OCTOBER 27, 1997, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman, Gary Nyberg, Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Herman Ratelle, and Donald Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: John Cooney and Lois Wilder STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Herman Ratelle moved to approve the minutes from the May 20, 1997, meeting of the Heritage Preservation Board. John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Cahill School/Grange Hall - Fire Sprinkling System Gary Nyberg reminded the Board that John Keprios, Park Director had approached the HPB at its May, 1997, meeting about exploring the possibility of installing a fire suppression (sprinkling) system inside the Cahill School and Grange Hall. While no formal action was taken, the Board agreed that the buildings were worthy of protection if the system could be concealed and the costs were not prohibitive. The Board then asked John to research questions that were raised and return with more information. Joyce Repya advised the Board that since the May meeting the Park Department had researched the insurance coverage for the buildings and determined that both buildings are covered on the same policy along with all City buildings. The insurance would cover rebuilding the structures if they were destroyed by fire; however, with the permanent historic loss, would the City want to? Ms. Repya further explained that in mid-September Charles Nelson, the State Historic Architect toured the Cahill School and Grange Hall along with John Keprios, Park Director, Mike Damman, a Park Department intern and Ms. Repya. At that time Mr. Nelson determined that a fire IN 1 suppression system with concealed pipes would be doable for both buildings. He felt a dry system would be the way to go with no water in the pipes until the system is activated. Regarding the basements, Mr. Nelson pointed out that since they were not the historic parts of the structures they would not have to be sprinkled. Addressing the funding of the project, Mr. Nelson stated that he believed this project would qualify for a State Grant with a 50% match under the section of Protecting Museum Environments. He recommended that Edina contact his office in late January or early February 1998, to receive a Grant application which would than be due in August 1998. General discussion ensued among the Board. Marilyn Curtis expressed concern for both buildings, particularly the Grange Hall which is a wood structure both inside and out. A fire would totally destroy the structures in minutes without some type of suppression system to give the Fire Department an opportunity to reach the site and do their job. Gary Nyberg asked if bids were currently being procured for the job. Ms. Repya explained that John Keprios is working with the fire suppression companies to procure bids, however, the City has the added responsibility of providing an adequate water supply to the site to accommodate such a system. He was hoping those costs could be folded into a Grant, possibly as. the City's match. Herman Ratelle opined that with the information provided by the Park Department and Charles Nelson the State Historic Architect it would be prudent to pursue a fire suppression system for the Grange Hall and Cahill School. Mr. Ratelle then moved that the Board approve the development of plans for a fire suppression system as well as making application for matching grant funds from the State to help cover the cost of the project. John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. III. LOCAL HISTORY CURRICULUM Gary Nyberg advised the Board that in September, he, Joyce Repya and Larry Fugelston, curriculum director with the Edina schools met to discuss creating an Edina History curriculum similar to that which was created in Fairbault. Mr. Fugelston appeared very receptive, stating that our timing was perfect since the District is currently re-evaluating the social studies curriculum district wide. At the time of that meeting, Mr. Nyberg explained the Certified Local Government (CLG) and the matching grant funds available for public education activities. Mr. Nyberg stated that he was very impressed with the new graduation standards which are being imposed state-wide, starting with Kindergarten. These new j standards are curriculum driven which is a big change in which something like this 2 r proposed history project must fit the curriculum; the curriculum no longer fits the new idea. Previously, if someone came in with a good idea, they'd manipulate the curriculum to fit it in, now, the curriculum is very specific. Ms. Repya pointed out that she has served as a guest speaker to the classrooms on the history of the City and the students and teachers alike loved to hear about historic Edina asking, "Where can we find more?" Of course, they are directed to the Historical Society Museum, but with its limited hours, it isn't very "user friendly" for the teachers or students. Ms. Repya explained that a second meeting took place with Larry Fugelston and two teachers serving on his curriculum committee. The CLG grant program was discussed at that meeting as it related to the creation of an Edina History Curriculum. At that time, the school representatives agreed that they would like to work with the Heritage Preservation Board to write a Grant request for this worthwhile project. Joyce Repya advised the Board that she and Gary Nyberg approached the school district to see if they would be receptive to working with the HPB on creating a history curriculum that would not only benefit Edina's school children, but the community at large. In light of the school's positive response, the Board is now in a position to formally pursue a grant application if that is the Board's desire. Marilyn Curtis then moved that the Heritage Preservation Board work with the Edina School District to develop a history curriculum and apply for a Certified Local Government (CLG) grant to assist in the funding of the project. Herman Ratelle seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. IV. OTHER BUSINESS: None. V. NEXT MEETING DATE: November 25, 1997 VI. ADJOURNMENT: 8:00 P.M. 3 Respectfully submitted, Joyce Repya MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JANUARY 27, 1998, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice chairman Donald Wray, John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, and Lois Wilder MEMBERS ABSENT: Gary Nyberg and Herman Ratelle STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Marilyn Curtis moved to approve the minutes of the October 27, 1997, meeting. John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. II. LOCAL HISTORY CURRICULUM: Ms. Repya reminded the Board the deadline for the CLG grant application to fund the local history curriculum is February 6, 1998. Upon preliminary review of our proposal the Minnesota Historical society expressed interest in the history curriculum centered around the website, however, they indicated the City of Edina lacked the historic foundation or "underpinnings" from which the curriculum would be built. The MHS recommended that Edina pursue a historic context study which would serve as a foundation for the curriculum. Ms. Repya pointed out the historic context study is something the State would like all cities (particularly CLG's) to complete. The studies are used by the State as the definitive history for an area which they too can use as a resource for any inquiries the MHS may receive. Ms. Repya added it appears that the historic context study is more or less a prerequisite for any CLG funded project the City may choose to undertake. John McCauley pointed out that the Edina Historical Museum at Arneson Acres houses wonderful information about the City that is so well cataloged and indexed. The job for a researcher working on a context study will be so much easier thanks to the work already accomplished at the museum. Board members discussed the importance of providing a historic context study for the State while at the same time working with the school district on the local history curriculum. It was agreed that in addition to the local history curriculum, the CLG Grant request will include funding for a historic context study. Marilyn Curtis then moved to submit a grant application to the State that would include a historic context study as well as the local history curriculum. John Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. Ms. Repya explained that the request for funding for the history curriculum is $11,022, or 44% of the total $24,830 proposed for the project. The City's match of $13,808 will come from both the City and the school district. Now, however, with the addition of the historic context study, the request for funding will be increased by the cost of producing the study. Once the final figures are available, they will be reported to the Board. III. NEXT MEETING DATE: February 24, 1998 IV. ADJOURNMENT: 7:40 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Q�71) - �Ice epya