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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1999 HPB Meeting Minutes RegularJoyce Repya Phone 612 826-0369 4801 West 50'h Street Fax 612 826-0390 Edina, MN 55424 Memo To: Members of the Heritage Preservation Board From: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner CC: File Date: January 20, 1999 Re: January Meeting - Historic Context Study Update January Meeting The regularly scheduled meeting for Tuesday, January 26, 1999, will not be held due to a lack of business to transact. Be advised that all future meetings will be held in the lower level room at Arneson Acres (Edina Historical Society Museum). The Manager's Conference room is no longer available for meetings after City Hall closes at 4:30 p.m. Historic Context Study Update Robert Vogel has been working diligently on the Historic Context Study. I have included for your information the December monthly report submitted to State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) which includes an outline of our historic contexts. Robert Vogel would like to attend the HPB meeting on February 23`d to update you on the progress of the project; so, mark you calendars. 0 Page 1 AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70TH STREET, EDINA, MN I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: November 19, 1998 II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY: Project Update from Consultant, Robert Vogel III. ELECTION OF OFFICERS: IV. OTHER BUSINESS: V. ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70T" STREET, EDINA, MN MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Herman Ratelle and Donald Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: Lois Wilder STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya OTHER PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Research Historian Chairman Nyberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Mrs. Curtis moved approval of the minutes from the November 19, 1998, meeting. Mr. Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY: Chairman Nyberg introduced Robert Vogel the Research Historian contracted to complete the historic context study, who was present to provide the Board with an update on the work accomplished thus far. Mr. Vogel explained that during this first phase of the project he has been collecting raw data from sources such as census reports, other heritage preservation surveys, historian's observations and literature review. From that data Mr. Vogel has created an historic contexts outline which he explained is the cornerstone of the historic preservation planning process; providing a frame of reference for historic property survey and evaluation decisions. Local historic contexts may also form a basis for developing education and interpretation programs. Mr. Vogel pointed out that two tiers of local historic contexts are proposed. Tier historic contexts describe the three significant broad patterns in Edina history: 1. The occupation and use of the Edina area by Native Americans and non-agricultural Euro -Americans. 2. Euro -American settlement and agricultural development, and 3. Suburbanization and twentieth century residential and commercial development. The term "landscape" is proposed to denote and "ecosystem" approach to local history, focussing on the processes of shaping the face of Edina. Conceptually, each landscape represents a different historical environment, part of a 10,000 year succession of cultural landscapes derived from the natural landscape. The emphasis is on linking specific types of historic properties to significant broad patterns of events that reflect changing land uses, settlement and development patterns, architectural forms, and the relationships between people and their environment. Tier I historic contexts are City-wide in geographic scope and overlap chronologically to some extent. They are the local study units most closely related to statewide historic contexts developed by the Minnesota State Historic Preservation Office and local contexts crafted by neighboring communities (e.g., Eden Prairie, Minneapolis). Mr. Vogel pointed out that Tier 2 historic contexts represent important aspects of Edina's heritage as reflected by groups of related buildings and sites. They may be thought of as historic "sub -contexts". In contrast to the Tier I study units, the emphasis is on cohesive streetscapes or neighborhoods that possess an identity of time and place. Tier 2 historic contexts are intended to form part of future multiple -property documentation studies and historic district registrations and are therefore narrowly defined in terms of their geographic focus. It is anticipated that the majority of Edina's extant historic properties will be identified and evaluated within more than one historic context, most often a combination of Tier 1 and Tier 2 study units. But some resources (architectural curiosities, one -of -a -kind buildings and surviving examples of a particular type of historic property) may fit only within one of the broad pattern (Tier 1) contexts. The following is a breakdown of the Tier 1 and Tier 2 historic contexts identified thus far: Tier I Historic Contexts The Native American Landscape, 10,000 B.C. to A.D. 1850s. Prior to Euro -American settlement, Native Americans occupied what is now Edina for thousands of years and through several successive cultural traditions. At the time of Euro -American settlement, the area was part of the tribal estate of the Mdewakanton Dakota, a living culture that is linked to contemporary communities. Important themes include the archaeology of prehistoric and historic native peoples; exploration and settlement; and natural features of historical interest. Historic properties associated with this broad city-wide context exist as "cultural fossils" incorporated within later historic landscapes as archeological sites. This aspect of local heritage has received little attention from previous historic preservation studies. 2. The Agricultural Landscape, 1850s to [date of last operating farm]. For more than three-quarters of a century, the greatest single influence on human activities in Edina was agriculture. Important themes include farming and rural non-farm development; rural architectural patterns and trends; religious and ethnic heritage; and social history. ,40 Historic properties associated with this historic context occur most often as functionally obsolete buildings (farmhouses, outbuildings, schoolhouses, churches); some have 2 been adapted to modern uses; and exist as relict cultural landscape forms (dwellings, accessory buildings, transpori:ation routes, open space areas); some are preserved as cultural fossils (historic archeological sites) embedded within the fabric of the modern built environment. 3. The Suburban Landscape, 1905-1970. Although some suburban trends were at work in Edina prior to 1905, the area remained essentially rural and agricultural in its cultural orientation until the twentieth century. Streetcars and automobiles were the principal agents of landscape change when Edina passed through several phases of intensive urban development after 19221. Important themes include the design, construction and financing of suburban dwellings and commercial buildings; transportation history (roads, streetcars, highways); local businesses; community development planning; recreation and entertainment; and landscape architecture. The terminal date of c.1970 is arbitrary. Tier I Historic Contexts 4. Edina Mills: Agriculture and Rural Life, 1857 to 1920s. The focus is on the initial node of Euro -American settlement, its relationship to other nineteenth century rural communities, and the development of the local waterpower resource. This context will guide future site identification and interpretation efforts. 5. Cahill Settlement: Edina's Irish Heritage, 1850-1920s. Historic resources associated with agriculture history and farm families. Probably applicable to only a small number of historic properties. 6. Morningside: the Streetcar Suburb, 1905 to 1940's. Deals with the streetcar suburb and small house architecture influenced by early twentieth century Bungalow and Arts and Crafts movements. 7. Country Club District: The Planned Community, 1922-1940s. The core of the first -ring commuter suburb; focuses on the imprint of community planning and twentieth century Revival Movement architecture, and the role played by historic preservation in late - twentieth century community planning. 8. Southdale: Shopping Mall Culture, 1955 to 1970. The focus is on the shopping mall as a distinctive (and revolutionary) urban landscape form. Provided a framework for future historic resource survey work. 9. Public Parks and Trails: The (Heritage of Recreation, Leisure, and Sport, c 1930 to 1970. This historic context provides a framework for identifying and evaluating the historical significance of properties associated with the development of community parks and other outdoor recreation facilities and their relationship to trends in leisure, sports, nature, conservancy, and entertainment. 10. Minnehaha Creek: From Wilderness Stream to Urban Waterway, 10,000 B.C. to A.D. 1970. The focus is on the area's most outstanding natural and aesthetic resource and its associated historic buildings, archeological sites, transportation, and conservation K structures, open spaces, and landscape architecture. Provides a framework for future historic resource survey work. In conclusion, Mr. Vogel explained that he would continue the archival research, planning to present the outline for the historic contexts including recommendations to the Board at the April meeting. Mr. Ratelle asked whether cities such as St. Paul or Minneapolis have different approaches toward their historic context studies. Mr. Vogel explained that St. Paul's study is more district oriented whereas Minneapolis has chosen a more thematic approach. Chairman Nyberg pointed out that as the City moves into the year 2000, the Heritage Preservation Board should reevaluate and expand their priorities. He stated that historically, the Board has for the most part focused on the oldest parts of the City i.e. the Country Club District and Morningside. In the future the suburbanization of Edina should be added to the Board's focus. Board Members agreed with Chairman Nyberg's observation, adding that the historic context study will be very helpful to direct the Board's focus. Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for presenting the work he has accomplished thus far, on the historic context study, and expressed interest in meeting again in April to receive an update on the project's progress at that point. No formal action was taken. III. ELECTION OF OFFICERS term: John Cooney moved that the following board members be re-elected for a one year ■ Chairman Gary Nyberg ■ Vice Chairman Donald Wray John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. IV. ANNUAL STATE HERITAGE PRESERVATION WORKSHOP Ms. Repya announced that the Annual State Heritage Preservation Workshop will be held on May 14-15, 1999 in St. Peter, Minnesota. She reminded board members that as a Certified Local Government City, attendance at Saturday's session is mandatory; and asked that the Board see if the workshop would fit in their May schedules. No formal action was taken. V. ADJOURNMENT: 8:15 p.m. Is Joyce Repya Phone 612 826-0369 4801 West 50"' Street Fax 612 826-0390 Edina, MN 55424 M e co To: Heritage Preservation Board From: Joyce Repya CC: File Date: March 19, 1999 Re: Meeting Cancellation The regularly scheduled meE�ting for Tuesday, March 23, 1999, will not be held due to a lack of business to transact. Remember, Robert Vogel is planning to meet with you at the April 270' meeting to discuss the progress of the Historic Context Study. Hope to see you all at the Boards and Commissions meeting on Thursday, March 25"', at Centennial Lakes. 0 Page 1 AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70TH STREET I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: February 23, 1999 II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY: ■ Review Historic Context Study Outlines with Robert Vogel III. ANNUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE: Friday May 14 & Saturday May 15, 1999 Regional Treatment Center, St. Peter IV. OTHER BUSINESS: V. ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVA* ION BOARD TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70T" STREET, EDINA, MN MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, John McCauley and Lois Wilder MEMBERS ABSENT: Marilyn Curtis, Herman Ratelle and Donald Wray STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Research Historian Chairman Nyberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Mr. Cooney moved approval of the minutes from the February 23, 1999, meeting. Mr. McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY: Chairman Nyberg welcomed Robert Vogel to the meeting and asked that Mr. Vogel provide the Board with a progress report on the Historic Context Study. Mr. Vogel explained that since meeting with the Board in February, he has completed the outlines for the Historic Context Study which had been mailed to the Board prior to the meeting. At this point the context study is consistent with the federal requirements. However, Edina's study will be somewhat unique to meet the goals of establishing a framework for future studies. Mr. Vogel observed that E:dina's context study will not be another history book— there are plenty of those. Rather the study will serve the City as a planning document with goals that can be implemented in a 5 to 15 year timeframe. Once the Context Study is complete, the HPB should move to the planning mode where decisions as to surveys, the use of property and the level of regulation will need to be made. Chairman Nyberg pointed out that areas such as the Country Club District and Morningside are easy to survey. The challenge comes in delineating the post war development into separate neighborhoods and districts. Board members agreed that the post-war development in Edina was much broader and not specific to an area. Mr. Vogel suggested that the Board undertake a border to border survey of every street in the City to identify original structures which are part of Edina's agricultural heritage. These bits and scraps of the City's past may be all that's left of Edina's agrarian heritage that was hard hit by the Twentieth Century. Mr. Cooney asked Mr. Vogel why the Board should undertake historic surveys. Mr. Vogel explained that it is through the surveys that tangible links to the past are identified. Ms. Wilder observed that she felt the HPB should start researching the City on the neighborhood level, Ms. Wilder pointed out that over time, some neighborhoods have been redefined (or cut-up) as highways were built. Board members agreed with Ms. Wilder that identifying neighbors would be a good starting point. Ms. Repya advised the Board that as part of the research for the Historic Context Study, Mr. Vogel has asked that a City tour with members of the HPB be organized sometime in June. Board members agreed that a tour would be an excellent idea. Tuesday, June 15tn at 6:00 p.m. was the tentative date set for the tour. Ms. Repya stated that she would check on the availability of using the Edina Senior Center van on that date. In conclusion, Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for his information update and added that he was very pleased with the progress of the project thus far; all board members echoed their pleasure. No formal action was taken. III. ANNUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE: Ms. Repya reminded the Board that an annual State Historic Preservation conference is scheduled for Friday and Saturday, Mary 14 & 15, at the Regional Treatment Center in St. Peter. The theme for the conference will be "Thinking About the Unthinkable", centering around the recovery efforts from a tornado which struck St. Peter in March of 1998. Ms. Repya pointed out that as a Certified Local Government City, Edina is required to send at least one board member to the conference. The City will reimburse the $30.00 conference fee for attendees. Ms. Repya then asked board members to check their calendars and let her know if they would be available to attendthe conference; she would then submit the registrations to the Minnesota Historical Society. No formal action was taken. IV. ADJOURNMENT: 8:15 p.m. AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, MAY 25, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70T" STREET I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: April 27, 1999 II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: George Baird House, 4400 West 50th Street Request: Exterior Painting and Wood Replacement III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY UPDATE: IV. REPORT OF MHS PRESERVATION CONFERENCE: May 15, 1999, St. Peter, Minnesota V. OTHER BUSINESS: VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: NOTE CHANGE, Tuesday, June 15th, 6:00 p.m., City Bus Tour VII. ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, MAY 25, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY •• ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70T" STREET, EDINA, MN MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chairman, Donald Wray, John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, Herman Ratelle, and Lois Wilder MEMBERS ABSENT: John McCauley and Gary Nyberg STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya Vice Chairman Wray called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Mr. Ratelle moved for approval of the minutes from the April 27, 1999, meeting. Mr. Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: Vice Chairman Wray welcomed Jack and Marilyn (an HPB member) Curtis, owners of the George Baird House and asked that they explain the modifications proposed for their home. Mrs. Curtis advised the Board that she and Mr. Curtis are proposing to make the following repairs to their home: • Replace rotted wood on porch trim and eaves • Add a railing on and between the top of the porch posts • Replace the rotted shngles on the gable ends, and • Paint trim With the use of photographs, Mr. and Mrs. Curtis pointed out the original porch construction and explained where the rotted wood will be replaced and the location of the new railings, spandrells and corner brackets between the porch posts. Mrs. Curtis explained that the trim as well as the gable end shingles will be painted "sandstone" which she presented from a color palate of historic paint shades. Following a brief discussion when Board members commended the Curtis's for the wonderful job they've done preserving their home; Herman Ratelle moved to approve the proposed modification plans subject to the plans presented. Mr. Cooney seconded the motion. Marilyn Curtis refrained from voting due to a conflict of interest. All others voted aye. The motion carried. III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY UPDATE: Ms. Repya reminded the Board that Robert Vogel had requested a historic tour of the City which has tentatively been scheduled for a special meeting on June 15, 1999. Mr. Ratelle and Mr. Cooney indicated that they had scheduling conflicts on the 15th. Ms. Repya asked the Board to mark their calendars and expect more information prior to the tour. No formal action was taken. IV. REPORT OF MHS PRESERVATION CONFERENCE: Ms. Repya explained that she represented the Board at the State's annual Preservation Workshop at the Treatment Center in St. Peter, Minnesota on Saturday, May 15, 1999. The keynote address entitled "Preservation of Last Resort: Techniques for Documenting Disaster Damaged Historic Buildings" was presented by John Burns, principal architect with the Historic American Building Survey. Mr. Burns stressed the importance of thoroughly documenting historic structures with both photographs and videotape. Mr. Burns pointed out that when historic buildings are thoroughly inventoried, if a disaster such as the St. Peter tornado of March 1998 occurs, the recovery and renovation process is somewhat less painful. In addition to Mr. Burns address, Ms. Repya toured the Episcopal Church and the Nicollet House Hotel buildings downtown as well as five private homes which all had incurred considerable damage in the tornado and have been rebuilt with the assistance grant funding from the state. The afternoon keynote address was given by the Mayor of Grand Forks, North Dakota, Pat Owens who relayed her experiences of a town coping with a natural disaster. In conclusion, Ms. Repya stated that the workshop was not only very interesting and informative, but also offered an opportunity to meet fellow preservationists from around Minnesota. No formal action was taken. V. OTHER BUSINESS: None VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: Rescheduled to Tuesday, June 15, 1999 at 6:00 p.m. - Historic Bus Tour VII. ADJOURNMENT: 7:40 P.M. )esp ctfully submit d AGENDA RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 1999, AT 6:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50TH STREET I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: May 25, 1999 II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: A. Paul Peterson House, 5312 Interlachen Boulevard Request: Install a fence in the side/rear yard B. Jonathan Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street Request: Construct an in -ground swimming pool in the rearyard III. OTHER BUSINESS: IV. HISTORIC BUS TOUR OF THE CITY: V. ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 1999, AT 6:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50TH STREET, EDINA, MN MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, I'Aarilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Lois Wilder, and Donald Wray STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya OTHERS PRESENT: Karen Fererra, Mark and Nancy Winter, and Robert Vogel Chairman Nyberg called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE=S: Mrs. Curtis moved for approval of the minutes from the May 25, 2999, meeting. Mr. Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION: A. Paul Peterson House, 5312 Interlachen Boulevard Request: Install a fence in the side/rear yard. Chairman Nyberg, explained that Mark and Nancy Winter, the new owners of the Peterson House are proposing tc erect a 4 foot white picket fence in their side and rear yard for the purpose of pet containment. Ms. Repya reminded the E'oard the Edina Zoning Ordinance No. 850 requires that for properties zoned Heritage PrE:servation District a permit is required for any changes to the nature or appearance of the land. She pointed out that the addition of the fence while altering the appearance of the land, will be minimally visible from the front street due to the dense shrubbery along Interlachem Boulevard. Ms. Repya recommended approval of the modification request for the following reasons: • The white picket fence proposed is compatible with the Eastlake architectural style of the home, • The fence does not alter the architectural integrity of the structure, and • Visibility from the front and side street is limited due to the shrubbery. Furthermore, Ms. Repya suggested that approval of the request should be subject to the plans presented and that the fence be constructed of wood. Chairman Nyberg asked if anyone present had anything to add. Mr. Mark Winter, the new owner of the Peterson house explained that he and his wife Nancy have two Old English Sheep dogs they would like to contain in their rearyard. When asked if a 4 foot fence would be high enough, Mr. Winter explained that both dogs are pretty docile and wouldn't attempt to jump the fence. Mr. Wray asked if the yard is currently fenced. Mr. Winter stated that it was not, however, the neighbor to the west recently constructed a 6 foot high cedar fence along the property line. A brief discussion ensued when Mr. Winter clarified the exact location of the fence; after which, Mrs. Curtis moved for approval of the modification request subject to the plans presented and the fence being constructed of wood. Mr. McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. B. Jonathan Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street Request: Construct an in -ground swimming pool totally in the rearyard. Chairman Nyberg explained that Bruce and Karen Fererra, owners of the Jonathan Grimes House are proposing to install an in -ground swimming pool in the rear yard. The plans illustrate a 19'X 35' swimming pool with a maximum depth of five feet. The pool is shown 30 feet from the house to the waters edge and 60 feet from the rear property line. A side yard of 15 feet from the side property lines is required by code and satisfied on the plan. The mechanical equipment which measures 4'X 8' is proposed to be located on the back side (north) of the attached garage next to an existing air conditioner compressor, still providing more than the required 10 foot sideyard setback. The question was raised as to whether the swimming pool would be fenced. Ms. Repya explained that the City Code requires that all swimming pools be surrounded by a non -climbable fence at least four feet in height with self -latching and self-closing gates. It was her understanding that a new four foot picket fence is proposed to be erected around the perimeter of the property. Addressing the fencing questions, Mrs. Fererra stated that currently the rearyard is fenced with different types of fencing materials on the east and west sides. They will be replacing that fence with a four foot cedar picket fence that will compliment the Gothic architectural style of the house. Ms. Repya pointed out that the Heritage Preservation Board is responsible to oversee changes or alterations to exterior improvements for properties zoned Heritage Preservation District; of particular importance are site changes visible from the front street. Ms. Repya stated that at first consideration, the addition of a swimming pool to a historic property might appear to be a contemporary intrusion to the site. Having never addressed this issue before, she consulted the State Historic Architect, Charles Nelson to get his opinion. Mr. Nelson explained to Ms. Repya that as long as the swimming pool was totally in the rear yard and not visible from the front street it would pose no threat to the historic integrity of the property, and he would have no problem recommending approval. Ms. Repya concluded that in light of Mr. Nelson's favorable stance toward this issue, and the fact that the swimming pool will not be visible from the front street, she would recommend approval of the request subject to the plans presented. Chairman Nyberg called for discussion at which point Mrs. Curtis expressed concern that since the Grimes House was not only locally designated, but also listed on the National Register of Historic Places that perhaps more information would be required before the Board could make a decision. Mrs. Curtis pointed out that she would be surprised if a swimming pool world be allowed at Mount Vernon which is also listed on the National Register. Since the Board is responsible for overseeing alterations to the land in addition to the structure, Mrs. Curtis questioned the appropriateness of adding a swimming pool to a historic property. Mrs. Fererra stated that she and her husband had consulted the city Attorney and were advised that if the improvements are not visible from the front street, they don't impact the historic designation. Robert Vogel, the Board's consultant on the Historic Context Study offered his opinion on the subject. Mr. Vogel pointed out that each National Register Application is unique and as he recalls, the Grimes House application concentrated on the house and did not detail the site. That being the case, an alteration to the site would not jeopardize the National Register classification. Chairman Nyberg asked Mrs. Curtis what she was looking for, and she responded, "Direction". Ms. Repya pointed out that the opinion of Charles Nelson weighed heavily upon her recommendation for approval of the swimming pool and she considered that sufficient direction for the Board. Following a brief discussicn, Chairman Nyberg asked Mrs. Curtis if she was still uncomfortable with the request. Mrs. Curtis said she appreciated the input, but also felt it is.very important to carefully reviow changes proposed as they affect the entire property. Chairman Nyberg then asked if there was a motion. Donald Wray stated that based upon the opinion of Charles Nelson the State Historic Architect and Robert Vogel's interpretation he would recomme id approval of the modification request subject to the plans presented. John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried. Chairman Nyberg asked Mr. Vogel to advise the Board on how to better equip themselves to deal with modification requests. Mr. Vogel explained that the "Secretary of the Interior's standards for Rehabilitation" is the best tool to use. These guidelines are straight forward and they make sense. Predicating decisions on this document will be consistent and defendable. Mr. Vogel pointed out that preservation isn't meant to freeze things in time. He then complimented the Board's decision relative to the Grimes House. Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for his guidance. Ms. Repya then advised the Board that she would make sure they all had a copy of the "Secretary of the Interior's Standards for Rehabilitation." No formal action was taken. III. OTHER BUSINESS: None IV. HISTORIC BUS TOUR OF THE CITY: Following adjournment, the Board departed for a historic tour of the City which was not only informative to the Board, but beneficial to Mr. Vogel in the preparation of the Historic Context Study. V. ADJOURNMENT: 6:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted 0 AGENDA • REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50TH STREET I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: June 15, 1999 II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY III. OTHER BUSINESS IV. ADJOURNMENT Note: A copy of the "Secretary of the Interior's Standards for Rehabilitation" is included for you to add to your reference materials MINUTES OF THE REGULAR IV'IEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 1999 ,A►T 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 4801 WEST 50TH STREET, EDINA, MN MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chairman Marilynn Curtis, John McCauley and Herman Ratelle MEMBERS ABSENT: John Cooney, Gary NybE,rg, Lois Wilder and Donald Wray STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel Acting Chairman Curtis called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m. I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE=S: Mr. Ratelle moved for app,oval of the minutes from the June 15, 1999, meeting. Mr. McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUD`( Ms. Repya advised the Board that the Historic Context Study was completed and delivered to the Minnesota Historical Society on schedule. The paperwork has been submitted to release the grant funds, so realistically reimbursement should be received by mid-November. Ms. Repya stated that she was very pleased with the finished product. Of particular interest was Appendix "C" Action Plans for Implementing the Historic Context Study; pointing out that this section will serve as a guide for directing the activities of the Board. Ms. Repya then asked Mr. Vogel to review the finished product with the Board and advise them how to best put the plan into action. Mr. Vogel explained that realistically the Board should look at five year increments for planning purposes. To extend beyond the 5 year limit one starts to need the assistance of a crystal ball. There is a lot of work identified to be done by both the Heritage Preservation Board as well as City Staff. Mr. Vogel pointed out that the Board should look at working in more than one context at a time. It is up to the Board to determine the size and scope of the work to be undertaken. The context study will serve the City as a heritage resource management tool. Currently, the city does not have a good baseline of historic data for properties; that should be the first area of concern. Mr. Vogel added that not only must the Board determine the size and scope of the work, but also the benefit the study will bring to the community. A question the city should consider is "What do we want Edina to look like over time?" Because time is a constant, what is not considered "historic" today, twenty years from now might be thought of as a treasure; an example is the recent interest in the past World War II era. Currently, the City's stance on designating historic properties is voluntary. Overtime, depending on the context, the city may wish to take a more assertive roll in designating properties. Mr. Ratelle asked what criteria the Board should use to determine just which properties are considered historic. Mr. Vogel explained that one of the assumptions of the study is that the age of a property is not the only determining factor for historic properties. The City's heritage preservation ordinance directs the Board to preserve links to the past. Within the parameters of the context study, other important elements to consider include criteria that can be authenticized such as a property's architecture or it's association with agriculture, archeology or notability. Acting Chairman Curtis asked how the Board should decide which properties to identify for designation. Mr. Vogel explained that the first task for the Board which he identified earlier, establishing a baseline survey of historic properties would consist of verifying existing surveys and then going one step further to identify each structure built before 1945 which meets the criteria set out in the historic preservation ordinance. Mr. Ratelle stated that such a task seemed daunting for the Board. Mr. Vogel pointed out that the State has a list of all the historic properties that have been identified in Edina thus far. He added that he had given a copy of the list to Ms. Repya for the City files. At the request of the Board, Ms. Repya agreed to make a copy of the historic properties inventory and have it available at the next meeting. Referring to the recommendations in the study, Mr. Vogel explained that some of the work can be accomplished by the Board, some with the help of volunteers and some may fall within the realm of another CLG grant to the tune of $3,000 to $5,000. Mr. Ratelle suggested that the Board "walk before they run" by going down the list of suggested actions in Appendix "C" of the study. The first item, "Edina City Council should adopt Edina Historic Context as the official guide for decisions regarding the 2 identification, evaluation, and registration of significant historic resources in the City." Would be a good start. Ms. Repya pointed out that in the Heritage Preservation section of the updated Comprehensive Land Use Plan, the Historic Context Study is identified as the foundation to guide the preservation of Edir a's cultural heritage. She then suggested that the Heritage Preservation Board present the context study to the Planning Commission to explain how it should be used as, a planning tool. Board members agreed that a presentation to the Planning Commission would be an excellent idea. Mr. Vogel kindly agreed to make a presentation to the Commission and answer any questions they may have. Ms. Repya explained that the Planning Commission would meet on Wednesday, September 29, 1999, the day after the scheduled HPB meeting on September 281h. She suggested that the September meeting be rescheduled to Wednesday, September 29th to allow for a presentation to the Planning Commission . The Board agreed that would be a good first step in addressing the work of the context study. No formal action was taken. Acting Chairman Curtis and all the Board members then thanked Mr. Vogel for a job well done on the context study and praised him for producing a unique document that the Board will use to give direction to their preservation efforts. 111. OLD BUSINESS: None IV. NEXT MEETING DATE: Rescheduled to Wednesday, September 28, 1999 at 7:30 P.M. Edina City Council Chambers V. ADJOURNMENT: 7:45 p.m. Respectfully Submitted: Joyce Repya 9 AGENDA RESCHEDULED MEETING OF 'fHE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 1999, AT 7:30 P.M. EDINA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 4801 WEST 50TH STREET JOINT MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION TO INTRODUCE THE HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES - Manager's Conference Room August 24, 1999 III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY: IV. OTHER BUSINESS: V. NEXT MEETING DATE: October 26, 1999 VI: ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 1999, AT 7:30 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, John McCauley and Donald Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, Herman Ratelle, and Lois Wilder STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel I. JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO INTRODUCE HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY: Ms. Repya explained that the Heritage Preservation Board oversaw the creation of the Historic Context Study with the assistance of grant funds from the National Park Service and the Edina Foundation. The Context Study will seve the City as the principle tool for heritage resource management. The Heritage Preservation section of the Comprehensive Land Use Plan now identifies the Historic Context Study as "the foundation to guide the City in the preservation of Edina's cultural heritage." Ms. Repya then introduced Robert Vogel, author of the Context Study who explained to the Commission how the study will serve them as a planning tool to preserve Edina's heritage resources. After Mr. Vogel's presentation, the Heritage Preservation Board moved to the Manager's Conference Room to continue their meeting. II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Mr. McCauley moved for approval of the minutes from the August 24, 1999, meeting. Mr. Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried. III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY: Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for his informative presentation to the Planning Commission. Board members agreed that keeping the Planning Commission advised on Sthe tools that are used to make important preservation decisions is very important. General discussion ensued as to the approach the Board should take in tackling the study's action plan. Mr. Wray stated that he felt the Board should take a first things first approach so as not to spread themselves too thin. Mr. Vogel pointed out that with the guidance of the action plan found in Appendix C of the study the Board should decide where to concentrate their efforts. He added that the deadline for the next grants cycle is coming up soon, so if the work proposed goes beyond the talents of the Staff and Board, applying for a grant to cover the costs of a professional should be considered. Mr. McCauley asked what would happen if the Board comes up with a list of properties to designate as historical and then the property owners don't want the designation. Mr. Vogel explained that that hasn't been his experience. Some cities have waiting lists of property owners requesting historic designation. Chairman Nyberg pointed out that the Board should decide upon the next step now that the study has been completed. Perhaps reviewing the Minnesota Historical Society's inventory of Edina's Historic Properties and verifying the current status of the properties would be good approach. Mr. Vogel stated that he thought that would be a great idea. The State Historical Society has a file for each property. Perhaps a member of the Board, or City Staff could go to St. Paul and review the files; making copies of information not already in City files. The Board discussed the length of the States Inventory (31 pages) and questioned the amount of time it would take to review each property. Chairman Nyberg pointed out that 550 properties on the inventory are houses in the Country Club District. Perhaps the research should focus on the other 78 properties. Board members agreed that would be a manageable approach. Ms. Repya offered to research the City information available on the 78 properties that are not in the Country Club District. Board members agreed that would be a great starting point. Mr. Vogel pointed out that in the future when reviewing potential historic properties the Board should remember that change is inevitable in American culture and that should not disqualify properties from historic designation. He also advised the Board to keep track of the deadlines for the federal grants cycle because much of the work identified in the context study can be undertaken with the assistance of a grant to the tune of $3000 to $5000. Board Members thanked Mr. Vogel for the wonderful work on the context study and also for taking the extra steps of explaining the study to the Planning Commission and making sure that the HPB felt comfortable with putting the study's action plan to work. No formal action was taken. III. OTHER BUSINESS: None IV. NEXT MEETING DATE: Rescheduled to Tuesday, October 19, 1999, at 7:00 P.M. V. ADJOURNMENT: 8:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Joyce Repya AGENDA RESCHEDULED MEETING OF 'SHE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50TH STREET I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: September 29, 1999 II. REPORT ON HISTORIC PROPERTIES RESEARCH: III. OTHER BUSINESS: IV. NEXT MEETING DATE: November 23, 1999 V. ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50TH STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Herman Ratelle, Lois Wilder and Donald Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Mr. Ratelle moved for app,oval of the minutes from the September 29, 1999, meeting. Mr. McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. II. REPORT ON HISTORIC PROPERTIES RESEARCH: Chairman Nyberg reminded the Board that at its last meeting they decided the best approach to implement the Historic Context Study action plan would be to review the 78 properties identified as historic on the 1980 survey. He pointed out that although 628 properties were identified as historic, 550 of those properties make up the Country Club District which has already been thoroughly documented. Ms. Repya explained the approach she has taken with the research and shared the updated files with Board. Most of the information has come from assessing records, building permits and photographs. Board members reviewed the files and agreed that is a good idea to compiled all of the City information into a single file for each historically identified property. Ms. Repya pointed out that in addition to the historically significant properties, the inventory also includes more contemporary structures which have won architectural awards. The most recent date for an architecturally significant property is 1976, consequently, any property which has received an award since then would not be included. Ms. Repya asked if a member of the Board would be willing to investigate architecturally significant properties which have been recognized since 1976. Chairman Nyberg stated that the Minnesota Society of Architects should have that information and he would be happy to do the research. Following a brief discussion, Chairman Nyberg asked what next step the Board should take. Referring to Appendix C, The Action Plan of the Historic Context Study, Ms. Repya pointed out that after the heritage resource inventory has been reviewed and reorganized, the Board may wish to target a district or neighborhood in the City which was not identified in the previous resource study. Ms. Repya added that Morningside has a unique story in the City's history, having seceeded in the 1920's to become its own village and coming back to join Edina in the mid -60's. A thorough examination of Morningside would be a worthwhile project too. Ms. Curtis pointed out that Article V of the Action Plan clearly sets out topics to be researched, which includes the Morningside neighborhood. Chairman Nyberg asked if a neighborhood map of Edina had ever been created, pointing out that such a map with more defined neighborhoods would make it easier for the HPB to identify study areas. Ms. Repya stated that she would be happy to work on a neighborhood map of the City. Following a brief discussion, Board Members agreed Ms. Repya should continue her review of the historic properties, and once a neighborhood map is completed they will identify and prioritize study areas. No formal action was taken. III. OTHER BUSINESS: • CLG Grant Funds Received - Ms. Repya reported that the City has received $5950 from the Minnesota Historical Society for their portion of the Historic Context Study. She added that a request for payment has been submitted to the Edina Foundation for their $3,050 contribution, which together with the CLG funds completes the cash outlay for the project. The remaining $2,900 were in- kind and volunteer contributions. IV. NEXT MEETING DATE: November 23, 1999 V. ADJOURNMENT: 7:45 p.m. Respectfully submitte (J#ce epya MEMORANDUM City of Edina TO: Heritage Preservation Board FROM: Joyce Repya SUBJECT: November Meeting DATE: November 19, 1999 As I'm sure you've suspectE�d, the regularly scheduled meeting for Tuesday, November 23, 1999 has been cancelled. Have a safe and festive Thanksgiving holiday!!!! City Hall (612) 927-8861 4801 WEST 50TH STREET FAX (612) 826-0390 EDINA, MINNESOTA 55424-1394 TDD (612) 826-0379