HomeMy WebLinkAbout1999 HPB Meeting Minutes RegularJoyce Repya Phone 612 826-0369
4801 West 50'h Street Fax 612 826-0390
Edina, MN 55424
Memo
To: Members of the Heritage Preservation Board
From: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner
CC: File
Date: January 20, 1999
Re: January Meeting - Historic Context Study Update
January Meeting
The regularly scheduled meeting for Tuesday, January 26, 1999, will not be held due to
a lack of business to transact.
Be advised that all future meetings will be held in the lower level room at Arneson Acres
(Edina Historical Society Museum). The Manager's Conference room is no longer available
for meetings after City Hall closes at 4:30 p.m.
Historic Context Study Update
Robert Vogel has been working diligently on the Historic Context Study. I have
included for your information the December monthly report submitted to State Historic
Preservation Office (SHPO) which includes an outline of our historic contexts.
Robert Vogel would like to attend the HPB meeting on February 23`d to update you on
the progress of the project; so, mark you calendars.
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70TH STREET, EDINA, MN
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
November 19, 1998
II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY:
Project Update from Consultant, Robert Vogel
III. ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
V. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70T" STREET, EDINA, MN
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Herman
Ratelle and Donald Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Lois Wilder
STAFF PRESENT:
Joyce Repya
OTHER PRESENT:
Robert Vogel, Research Historian
Chairman Nyberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Mrs. Curtis moved approval of the minutes from the November 19, 1998, meeting.
Mr. Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY:
Chairman Nyberg introduced Robert Vogel the Research Historian contracted to
complete the historic context study, who was present to provide the Board with an update
on the work accomplished thus far.
Mr. Vogel explained that during this first phase of the project he has been collecting
raw data from sources such as census reports, other heritage preservation surveys,
historian's observations and literature review. From that data Mr. Vogel has created an
historic contexts outline which he explained is the cornerstone of the historic preservation
planning process; providing a frame of reference for historic property survey and
evaluation decisions. Local historic contexts may also form a basis for developing
education and interpretation programs.
Mr. Vogel pointed out that two tiers of local historic contexts are proposed. Tier
historic contexts describe the three significant broad patterns in Edina history:
1. The occupation and use of the Edina area by Native Americans and non-agricultural
Euro -Americans.
2. Euro -American settlement and agricultural development, and
3. Suburbanization and twentieth century residential and commercial development.
The term "landscape" is proposed to denote and "ecosystem" approach to local
history, focussing on the processes of shaping the face of Edina. Conceptually, each
landscape represents a different historical environment, part of a 10,000 year succession
of cultural landscapes derived from the natural landscape. The emphasis is on linking
specific types of historic properties to significant broad patterns of events that reflect
changing land uses, settlement and development patterns, architectural forms, and the
relationships between people and their environment. Tier I historic contexts are City-wide
in geographic scope and overlap chronologically to some extent. They are the local study
units most closely related to statewide historic contexts developed by the Minnesota State
Historic Preservation Office and local contexts crafted by neighboring communities (e.g.,
Eden Prairie, Minneapolis).
Mr. Vogel pointed out that Tier 2 historic contexts represent important aspects of
Edina's heritage as reflected by groups of related buildings and sites. They may be
thought of as historic "sub -contexts". In contrast to the Tier I study units, the emphasis is
on cohesive streetscapes or neighborhoods that possess an identity of time and place.
Tier 2 historic contexts are intended to form part of future multiple -property documentation
studies and historic district registrations and are therefore narrowly defined in terms of
their geographic focus.
It is anticipated that the majority of Edina's extant historic properties will be
identified and evaluated within more than one historic context, most often a combination of
Tier 1 and Tier 2 study units. But some resources (architectural curiosities, one -of -a -kind
buildings and surviving examples of a particular type of historic property) may fit only
within one of the broad pattern (Tier 1) contexts.
The following is a breakdown of the Tier 1 and Tier 2 historic contexts identified
thus far:
Tier I Historic Contexts
The Native American Landscape, 10,000 B.C. to A.D. 1850s. Prior to Euro -American
settlement, Native Americans occupied what is now Edina for thousands of years and
through several successive cultural traditions. At the time of Euro -American
settlement, the area was part of the tribal estate of the Mdewakanton Dakota, a living
culture that is linked to contemporary communities. Important themes include the
archaeology of prehistoric and historic native peoples; exploration and settlement; and
natural features of historical interest. Historic properties associated with this broad
city-wide context exist as "cultural fossils" incorporated within later historic
landscapes as archeological sites. This aspect of local heritage has received little
attention from previous historic preservation studies.
2. The Agricultural Landscape, 1850s to [date of last operating farm]. For more than
three-quarters of a century, the greatest single influence on human activities in Edina
was agriculture. Important themes include farming and rural non-farm development;
rural architectural patterns and trends; religious and ethnic heritage; and social history. ,40
Historic properties associated with this historic context occur most often as functionally
obsolete buildings (farmhouses, outbuildings, schoolhouses, churches); some have
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been adapted to modern uses; and exist as relict cultural landscape forms (dwellings,
accessory buildings, transpori:ation routes, open space areas); some are preserved as
cultural fossils (historic archeological sites) embedded within the fabric of the modern
built environment.
3. The Suburban Landscape, 1905-1970. Although some suburban trends were at work
in Edina prior to 1905, the area remained essentially rural and agricultural in its cultural
orientation until the twentieth century. Streetcars and automobiles were the principal
agents of landscape change when Edina passed through several phases of intensive
urban development after 19221. Important themes include the design, construction and
financing of suburban dwellings and commercial buildings; transportation history
(roads, streetcars, highways); local businesses; community development planning;
recreation and entertainment; and landscape architecture. The terminal date of c.1970
is arbitrary.
Tier I Historic Contexts
4. Edina Mills: Agriculture and Rural Life, 1857 to 1920s. The focus is on the initial node
of Euro -American settlement, its relationship to other nineteenth century rural
communities, and the development of the local waterpower resource. This context will
guide future site identification and interpretation efforts.
5. Cahill Settlement: Edina's Irish Heritage, 1850-1920s. Historic resources associated
with agriculture history and farm families. Probably applicable to only a small number
of historic properties.
6. Morningside: the Streetcar Suburb, 1905 to 1940's. Deals with the streetcar suburb
and small house architecture influenced by early twentieth century Bungalow and Arts
and Crafts movements.
7. Country Club District: The Planned Community, 1922-1940s. The core of the first -ring
commuter suburb; focuses on the imprint of community planning and twentieth century
Revival Movement architecture, and the role played by historic preservation in late -
twentieth century community planning.
8. Southdale: Shopping Mall Culture, 1955 to 1970. The focus is on the shopping mall
as a distinctive (and revolutionary) urban landscape form. Provided a framework for
future historic resource survey work.
9. Public Parks and Trails: The (Heritage of Recreation, Leisure, and Sport, c 1930 to
1970. This historic context provides a framework for identifying and evaluating the
historical significance of properties associated with the development of community
parks and other outdoor recreation facilities and their relationship to trends in leisure,
sports, nature, conservancy, and entertainment.
10. Minnehaha Creek: From Wilderness Stream to Urban Waterway, 10,000 B.C. to A.D.
1970. The focus is on the area's most outstanding natural and aesthetic resource and
its associated historic buildings, archeological sites, transportation, and conservation
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structures, open spaces, and landscape architecture. Provides a framework for future
historic resource survey work.
In conclusion, Mr. Vogel explained that he would continue the archival research,
planning to present the outline for the historic contexts including recommendations to the
Board at the April meeting.
Mr. Ratelle asked whether cities such as St. Paul or Minneapolis have different
approaches toward their historic context studies. Mr. Vogel explained that St. Paul's study
is more district oriented whereas Minneapolis has chosen a more thematic approach.
Chairman Nyberg pointed out that as the City moves into the year 2000, the
Heritage Preservation Board should reevaluate and expand their priorities. He stated that
historically, the Board has for the most part focused on the oldest parts of the City i.e. the
Country Club District and Morningside. In the future the suburbanization of Edina should
be added to the Board's focus.
Board Members agreed with Chairman Nyberg's observation, adding that the
historic context study will be very helpful to direct the Board's focus.
Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for presenting the work he has accomplished
thus far, on the historic context study, and expressed interest in meeting again in April to
receive an update on the project's progress at that point. No formal action was taken.
III. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
term:
John Cooney moved that the following board members be re-elected for a one year
■ Chairman Gary Nyberg
■ Vice Chairman Donald Wray
John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
IV. ANNUAL STATE HERITAGE PRESERVATION WORKSHOP
Ms. Repya announced that the Annual State Heritage Preservation Workshop will
be held on May 14-15, 1999 in St. Peter, Minnesota. She reminded board members that
as a Certified Local Government City, attendance at Saturday's session is mandatory; and
asked that the Board see if the workshop would fit in their May schedules. No formal
action was taken.
V. ADJOURNMENT:
8:15 p.m.
Is Joyce Repya Phone 612 826-0369
4801 West 50"' Street Fax 612 826-0390
Edina, MN 55424
M e co
To: Heritage Preservation Board
From: Joyce Repya
CC: File
Date: March 19, 1999
Re: Meeting Cancellation
The regularly scheduled meE�ting for Tuesday, March 23, 1999, will not be held due to a
lack of business to transact.
Remember, Robert Vogel is planning to meet with you at the April 270' meeting to
discuss the progress of the Historic Context Study.
Hope to see you all at the Boards and Commissions meeting on Thursday, March 25"', at
Centennial Lakes.
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AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70TH STREET
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
February 23, 1999
II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY:
■ Review Historic Context Study Outlines with Robert Vogel
III. ANNUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE:
Friday May 14 & Saturday May 15, 1999
Regional Treatment Center, St. Peter
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
V. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVA* ION BOARD
TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70T" STREET, EDINA, MN
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, John McCauley and Lois Wilder
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Marilyn Curtis, Herman Ratelle and Donald Wray
STAFF PRESENT:
Joyce Repya
OTHERS PRESENT:
Robert Vogel, Research Historian
Chairman Nyberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Mr. Cooney moved approval of the minutes from the February 23, 1999, meeting.
Mr. McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY:
Chairman Nyberg welcomed Robert Vogel to the meeting and asked that Mr. Vogel
provide the Board with a progress report on the Historic Context Study.
Mr. Vogel explained that since meeting with the Board in February, he has
completed the outlines for the Historic Context Study which had been mailed to the Board
prior to the meeting.
At this point the context study is consistent with the federal requirements. However,
Edina's study will be somewhat unique to meet the goals of establishing a framework for
future studies.
Mr. Vogel observed that E:dina's context study will not be another history book—
there are plenty of those. Rather the study will serve the City as a planning document with
goals that can be implemented in a 5 to 15 year timeframe.
Once the Context Study is complete, the HPB should move to the planning mode
where decisions as to surveys, the use of property and the level of regulation will need to
be made.
Chairman Nyberg pointed out that areas such as the Country Club District and
Morningside are easy to survey. The challenge comes in delineating the post war
development into separate neighborhoods and districts.
Board members agreed that the post-war development in Edina was much broader
and not specific to an area.
Mr. Vogel suggested that the Board undertake a border to border survey of every
street in the City to identify original structures which are part of Edina's agricultural
heritage. These bits and scraps of the City's past may be all that's left of Edina's agrarian
heritage that was hard hit by the Twentieth Century.
Mr. Cooney asked Mr. Vogel why the Board should undertake historic surveys. Mr.
Vogel explained that it is through the surveys that tangible links to the past are identified.
Ms. Wilder observed that she felt the HPB should start researching the City on the
neighborhood level, Ms. Wilder pointed out that over time, some neighborhoods have
been redefined (or cut-up) as highways were built.
Board members agreed with Ms. Wilder that identifying neighbors would be a good
starting point.
Ms. Repya advised the Board that as part of the research for the Historic Context
Study, Mr. Vogel has asked that a City tour with members of the HPB be organized
sometime in June.
Board members agreed that a tour would be an excellent idea. Tuesday, June 15tn
at 6:00 p.m. was the tentative date set for the tour. Ms. Repya stated that she would check
on the availability of using the Edina Senior Center van on that date.
In conclusion, Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for his information update and
added that he was very pleased with the progress of the project thus far; all board
members echoed their pleasure. No formal action was taken.
III. ANNUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE:
Ms. Repya reminded the Board that an annual State Historic Preservation
conference is scheduled for Friday and Saturday, Mary 14 & 15, at the Regional Treatment
Center in St. Peter. The theme for the conference will be "Thinking About the
Unthinkable", centering around the recovery efforts from a tornado which struck St. Peter
in March of 1998.
Ms. Repya pointed out that as a Certified Local Government City, Edina is required
to send at least one board member to the conference. The City will reimburse the $30.00
conference fee for attendees.
Ms. Repya then asked board members to check their calendars and let her know if
they would be available to attendthe conference; she would then submit the registrations
to the Minnesota Historical Society. No formal action was taken.
IV. ADJOURNMENT:
8:15 p.m.
AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, MAY 25, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70T" STREET
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
April 27, 1999
II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION:
George Baird House, 4400 West 50th Street
Request: Exterior Painting and Wood Replacement
III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY UPDATE:
IV. REPORT OF MHS PRESERVATION CONFERENCE:
May 15, 1999, St. Peter, Minnesota
V. OTHER BUSINESS:
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
NOTE CHANGE, Tuesday, June 15th, 6:00 p.m., City Bus Tour
VII. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, MAY 25, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY •• ARNESON ACRES
4711 WEST 70T" STREET, EDINA, MN
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Vice Chairman, Donald Wray, John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, Herman Ratelle,
and Lois Wilder
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John McCauley and Gary Nyberg
STAFF PRESENT:
Joyce Repya
Vice Chairman Wray called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Mr. Ratelle moved for approval of the minutes from the April 27, 1999, meeting. Mr.
Cooney seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION:
Vice Chairman Wray welcomed Jack and Marilyn (an HPB member) Curtis, owners
of the George Baird House and asked that they explain the modifications proposed for
their home.
Mrs. Curtis advised the Board that she and Mr. Curtis are proposing to make the
following repairs to their home:
• Replace rotted wood on porch trim and eaves
• Add a railing on and between the top of the porch posts
• Replace the rotted shngles on the gable ends, and
• Paint trim
With the use of photographs, Mr. and Mrs. Curtis pointed out the original porch
construction and explained where the rotted wood will be replaced and the location of the
new railings, spandrells and corner brackets between the porch posts.
Mrs. Curtis explained that the trim as well as the gable end shingles will be painted
"sandstone" which she presented from a color palate of historic paint shades.
Following a brief discussion when Board members commended the Curtis's for the
wonderful job they've done preserving their home; Herman Ratelle moved to approve the
proposed modification plans subject to the plans presented. Mr. Cooney seconded the
motion. Marilyn Curtis refrained from voting due to a conflict of interest. All others voted
aye. The motion carried.
III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY UPDATE:
Ms. Repya reminded the Board that Robert Vogel had requested a historic tour of
the City which has tentatively been scheduled for a special meeting on June 15, 1999. Mr.
Ratelle and Mr. Cooney indicated that they had scheduling conflicts on the 15th. Ms.
Repya asked the Board to mark their calendars and expect more information prior to the
tour. No formal action was taken.
IV. REPORT OF MHS PRESERVATION CONFERENCE:
Ms. Repya explained that she represented the Board at the State's annual
Preservation Workshop at the Treatment Center in St. Peter, Minnesota on Saturday, May
15, 1999.
The keynote address entitled "Preservation of Last Resort: Techniques for
Documenting Disaster Damaged Historic Buildings" was presented by John Burns,
principal architect with the Historic American Building Survey. Mr. Burns stressed the
importance of thoroughly documenting historic structures with both photographs and
videotape. Mr. Burns pointed out that when historic buildings are thoroughly inventoried, if
a disaster such as the St. Peter tornado of March 1998 occurs, the recovery and
renovation process is somewhat less painful.
In addition to Mr. Burns address, Ms. Repya toured the Episcopal Church and the
Nicollet House Hotel buildings downtown as well as five private homes which all had
incurred considerable damage in the tornado and have been rebuilt with the assistance
grant funding from the state.
The afternoon keynote address was given by the Mayor of Grand Forks, North
Dakota, Pat Owens who relayed her experiences of a town coping with a natural disaster.
In conclusion, Ms. Repya stated that the workshop was not only very interesting and
informative, but also offered an opportunity to meet fellow preservationists from around
Minnesota. No formal action was taken.
V. OTHER BUSINESS: None
VI. NEXT MEETING DATE:
Rescheduled to Tuesday, June 15, 1999 at 6:00 p.m. - Historic Bus Tour
VII. ADJOURNMENT:
7:40 P.M.
)esp ctfully submit d
AGENDA
RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 1999, AT 6:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
May 25, 1999
II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION:
A. Paul Peterson House, 5312 Interlachen Boulevard
Request: Install a fence in the side/rear yard
B. Jonathan Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street
Request: Construct an in -ground swimming pool in the rearyard
III. OTHER BUSINESS:
IV. HISTORIC BUS TOUR OF THE CITY:
V. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 1999, AT 6:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
4801 WEST 50TH STREET, EDINA, MN
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Gary Nyberg, I'Aarilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Lois Wilder, and
Donald Wray
STAFF PRESENT:
Joyce Repya
OTHERS PRESENT:
Karen Fererra, Mark and Nancy Winter, and Robert Vogel
Chairman Nyberg called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE=S:
Mrs. Curtis moved for approval of the minutes from the May 25, 2999, meeting. Mr.
Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
II. PERMIT FOR MODIFICATION:
A. Paul Peterson House, 5312 Interlachen Boulevard
Request: Install a fence in the side/rear yard.
Chairman Nyberg, explained that Mark and Nancy Winter, the new owners of the
Peterson House are proposing tc erect a 4 foot white picket fence in their side and rear
yard for the purpose of pet containment.
Ms. Repya reminded the E'oard the Edina Zoning Ordinance No. 850 requires that
for properties zoned Heritage PrE:servation District a permit is required for any changes to
the nature or appearance of the land. She pointed out that the addition of the fence while
altering the appearance of the land, will be minimally visible from the front street due to the
dense shrubbery along Interlachem Boulevard.
Ms. Repya recommended approval of the modification request for the following
reasons:
• The white picket fence proposed is compatible with the Eastlake architectural style of
the home,
• The fence does not alter the architectural integrity of the structure, and
• Visibility from the front and side street is limited due to the shrubbery.
Furthermore, Ms. Repya suggested that approval of the request should be subject
to the plans presented and that the fence be constructed of wood.
Chairman Nyberg asked if anyone present had anything to add.
Mr. Mark Winter, the new owner of the Peterson house explained that he and his
wife Nancy have two Old English Sheep dogs they would like to contain in their rearyard.
When asked if a 4 foot fence would be high enough, Mr. Winter explained that both
dogs are pretty docile and wouldn't attempt to jump the fence.
Mr. Wray asked if the yard is currently fenced. Mr. Winter stated that it was not,
however, the neighbor to the west recently constructed a 6 foot high cedar fence along the
property line.
A brief discussion ensued when Mr. Winter clarified the exact location of the fence;
after which, Mrs. Curtis moved for approval of the modification request subject to the plans
presented and the fence being constructed of wood. Mr. McCauley seconded the motion.
All voted aye; the motion carried.
B. Jonathan Grimes House, 4200 West 44th Street
Request: Construct an in -ground swimming pool totally in the rearyard.
Chairman Nyberg explained that Bruce and Karen Fererra, owners of the Jonathan
Grimes House are proposing to install an in -ground swimming pool in the rear yard. The
plans illustrate a 19'X 35' swimming pool with a maximum depth of five feet. The pool is
shown 30 feet from the house to the waters edge and 60 feet from the rear property line. A
side yard of 15 feet from the side property lines is required by code and satisfied on the
plan.
The mechanical equipment which measures 4'X 8' is proposed to be located on the
back side (north) of the attached garage next to an existing air conditioner compressor,
still providing more than the required 10 foot sideyard setback.
The question was raised as to whether the swimming pool would be fenced. Ms.
Repya explained that the City Code requires that all swimming pools be surrounded by a
non -climbable fence at least four feet in height with self -latching and self-closing gates. It
was her understanding that a new four foot picket fence is proposed to be erected around
the perimeter of the property.
Addressing the fencing questions, Mrs. Fererra stated that currently the rearyard is
fenced with different types of fencing materials on the east and west sides. They will be
replacing that fence with a four foot cedar picket fence that will compliment the Gothic
architectural style of the house.
Ms. Repya pointed out that the Heritage Preservation Board is responsible to
oversee changes or alterations to exterior improvements for properties zoned Heritage
Preservation District; of particular importance are site changes visible from the front street.
Ms. Repya stated that at first consideration, the addition of a swimming pool to a
historic property might appear to be a contemporary intrusion to the site. Having never
addressed this issue before, she consulted the State Historic Architect, Charles Nelson to
get his opinion. Mr. Nelson explained to Ms. Repya that as long as the swimming pool
was totally in the rear yard and not visible from the front street it would pose no threat to
the historic integrity of the property, and he would have no problem recommending
approval.
Ms. Repya concluded that in light of Mr. Nelson's favorable stance toward this
issue, and the fact that the swimming pool will not be visible from the front street, she
would recommend approval of the request subject to the plans presented.
Chairman Nyberg called for discussion at which point Mrs. Curtis expressed
concern that since the Grimes House was not only locally designated, but also listed on
the National Register of Historic Places that perhaps more information would be required
before the Board could make a decision. Mrs. Curtis pointed out that she would be
surprised if a swimming pool world be allowed at Mount Vernon which is also listed on the
National Register. Since the Board is responsible for overseeing alterations to the land in
addition to the structure, Mrs. Curtis questioned the appropriateness of adding a swimming
pool to a historic property.
Mrs. Fererra stated that she and her husband had consulted the city Attorney and
were advised that if the improvements are not visible from the front street, they don't
impact the historic designation.
Robert Vogel, the Board's consultant on the Historic Context Study offered his
opinion on the subject. Mr. Vogel pointed out that each National Register Application is
unique and as he recalls, the Grimes House application concentrated on the house and
did not detail the site. That being the case, an alteration to the site would not jeopardize
the National Register classification. Chairman Nyberg asked Mrs. Curtis what she was
looking for, and she responded, "Direction".
Ms. Repya pointed out that the opinion of Charles Nelson weighed heavily upon her
recommendation for approval of the swimming pool and she considered that sufficient
direction for the Board.
Following a brief discussicn, Chairman Nyberg asked Mrs. Curtis if she was still
uncomfortable with the request. Mrs. Curtis said she appreciated the input, but also felt it
is.very important to carefully reviow changes proposed as they affect the entire property.
Chairman Nyberg then asked if there was a motion. Donald Wray stated that based
upon the opinion of Charles Nelson the State Historic Architect and Robert Vogel's
interpretation he would recomme id approval of the modification request subject to the
plans presented. John McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; motion carried.
Chairman Nyberg asked Mr. Vogel to advise the Board on how to better equip
themselves to deal with modification requests. Mr. Vogel explained that the "Secretary of
the Interior's standards for Rehabilitation" is the best tool to use. These guidelines are
straight forward and they make sense. Predicating decisions on this document will be
consistent and defendable. Mr. Vogel pointed out that preservation isn't meant to freeze
things in time. He then complimented the Board's decision relative to the Grimes House.
Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for his guidance. Ms. Repya then advised the
Board that she would make sure they all had a copy of the "Secretary of the Interior's
Standards for Rehabilitation." No formal action was taken.
III. OTHER BUSINESS: None
IV. HISTORIC BUS TOUR OF THE CITY:
Following adjournment, the Board departed for a historic tour of the City which was
not only informative to the Board, but beneficial to Mr. Vogel in the preparation of the
Historic Context Study.
V. ADJOURNMENT: 6:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted
0 AGENDA
•
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
June 15, 1999
II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY
III. OTHER BUSINESS
IV. ADJOURNMENT
Note:
A copy of the "Secretary of the Interior's Standards for Rehabilitation" is
included for you to add to your reference materials
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR IV'IEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 1999 ,A►T 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET, EDINA, MN
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Acting Chairman Marilynn Curtis, John McCauley and Herman Ratelle
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Cooney, Gary NybE,rg, Lois Wilder and Donald Wray
STAFF PRESENT:
Joyce Repya
OTHERS PRESENT:
Robert Vogel
Acting Chairman Curtis called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTE=S:
Mr. Ratelle moved for app,oval of the minutes from the June 15, 1999, meeting. Mr.
McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
II. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUD`(
Ms. Repya advised the Board that the Historic Context Study was completed and
delivered to the Minnesota Historical Society on schedule. The paperwork has been
submitted to release the grant funds, so realistically reimbursement should be received by
mid-November.
Ms. Repya stated that she was very pleased with the finished product. Of particular
interest was Appendix "C" Action Plans for Implementing the Historic Context Study;
pointing out that this section will serve as a guide for directing the activities of the Board.
Ms. Repya then asked Mr. Vogel to review the finished product with the Board and
advise them how to best put the plan into action.
Mr. Vogel explained that realistically the Board should look at five year increments
for planning purposes. To extend beyond the 5 year limit one starts to need the
assistance of a crystal ball. There is a lot of work identified to be done by both the
Heritage Preservation Board as well as City Staff.
Mr. Vogel pointed out that the Board should look at working in more than one
context at a time. It is up to the Board to determine the size and scope of the work to be
undertaken.
The context study will serve the City as a heritage resource management tool.
Currently, the city does not have a good baseline of historic data for properties; that
should be the first area of concern.
Mr. Vogel added that not only must the Board determine the size and scope of the
work, but also the benefit the study will bring to the community. A question the city should
consider is "What do we want Edina to look like over time?" Because time is a constant,
what is not considered "historic" today, twenty years from now might be thought of as a
treasure; an example is the recent interest in the past World War II era.
Currently, the City's stance on designating historic properties is voluntary.
Overtime, depending on the context, the city may wish to take a more assertive roll in
designating properties.
Mr. Ratelle asked what criteria the Board should use to determine just which
properties are considered historic.
Mr. Vogel explained that one of the assumptions of the study is that the age of a
property is not the only determining factor for historic properties. The City's heritage
preservation ordinance directs the Board to preserve links to the past. Within the
parameters of the context study, other important elements to consider include criteria that
can be authenticized such as a property's architecture or it's association with agriculture,
archeology or notability.
Acting Chairman Curtis asked how the Board should decide which properties to
identify for designation.
Mr. Vogel explained that the first task for the Board which he identified earlier,
establishing a baseline survey of historic properties would consist of verifying existing
surveys and then going one step further to identify each structure built before 1945 which
meets the criteria set out in the historic preservation ordinance.
Mr. Ratelle stated that such a task seemed daunting for the Board.
Mr. Vogel pointed out that the State has a list of all the historic properties that have
been identified in Edina thus far. He added that he had given a copy of the list to Ms.
Repya for the City files.
At the request of the Board, Ms. Repya agreed to make a copy of the historic
properties inventory and have it available at the next meeting.
Referring to the recommendations in the study, Mr. Vogel explained that some of
the work can be accomplished by the Board, some with the help of volunteers and some
may fall within the realm of another CLG grant to the tune of $3,000 to $5,000.
Mr. Ratelle suggested that the Board "walk before they run" by going down the list
of suggested actions in Appendix "C" of the study. The first item, "Edina City Council
should adopt Edina Historic Context as the official guide for decisions regarding the
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identification, evaluation, and registration of significant historic resources in the City."
Would be a good start.
Ms. Repya pointed out that in the Heritage Preservation section of the updated
Comprehensive Land Use Plan, the Historic Context Study is identified as the foundation
to guide the preservation of Edir a's cultural heritage. She then suggested that the
Heritage Preservation Board present the context study to the Planning Commission to
explain how it should be used as, a planning tool.
Board members agreed that a presentation to the Planning Commission would be
an excellent idea. Mr. Vogel kindly agreed to make a presentation to the Commission and
answer any questions they may have.
Ms. Repya explained that the Planning Commission would meet on Wednesday,
September 29, 1999, the day after the scheduled HPB meeting on September 281h. She
suggested that the September meeting be rescheduled to Wednesday, September 29th to
allow for a presentation to the Planning Commission . The Board agreed that would be a
good first step in addressing the work of the context study. No formal action was taken.
Acting Chairman Curtis and all the Board members then thanked Mr. Vogel for a job
well done on the context study and praised him for producing a unique document that the
Board will use to give direction to their preservation efforts.
111. OLD BUSINESS: None
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
Rescheduled to Wednesday, September 28, 1999 at 7:30 P.M.
Edina City Council Chambers
V. ADJOURNMENT: 7:45 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted:
Joyce Repya
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AGENDA
RESCHEDULED MEETING OF 'fHE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 1999, AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
JOINT MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION TO INTRODUCE
THE HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY
II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES - Manager's Conference Room
August 24, 1999
III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY:
IV. OTHER BUSINESS:
V. NEXT MEETING DATE: October 26, 1999
VI: ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 1999, AT 7:30 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Gary Nyberg, John McCauley and Donald Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT:
John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, Herman Ratelle, and Lois Wilder
STAFF PRESENT:
Joyce Repya
OTHERS PRESENT:
Robert Vogel
I. JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO INTRODUCE
HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY:
Ms. Repya explained that the Heritage Preservation Board oversaw the creation of
the Historic Context Study with the assistance of grant funds from the National Park
Service and the Edina Foundation.
The Context Study will seve the City as the principle tool for heritage resource
management. The Heritage Preservation section of the Comprehensive Land Use Plan
now identifies the Historic Context Study as "the foundation to guide the City in the
preservation of Edina's cultural heritage."
Ms. Repya then introduced Robert Vogel, author of the Context Study who
explained to the Commission how the study will serve them as a planning tool to preserve
Edina's heritage resources.
After Mr. Vogel's presentation, the Heritage Preservation Board moved to the
Manager's Conference Room to continue their meeting.
II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Mr. McCauley moved for approval of the minutes from the August 24, 1999,
meeting. Mr. Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye; the motion carried.
III. HISTORIC CONTEXT STUDY:
Chairman Nyberg thanked Mr. Vogel for his informative presentation to the Planning
Commission. Board members agreed that keeping the Planning Commission advised on
Sthe tools that are used to make important preservation decisions is very important.
General discussion ensued as to the approach the Board should take in tackling the
study's action plan.
Mr. Wray stated that he felt the Board should take a first things first approach so as
not to spread themselves too thin.
Mr. Vogel pointed out that with the guidance of the action plan found in Appendix C
of the study the Board should decide where to concentrate their efforts. He added that the
deadline for the next grants cycle is coming up soon, so if the work proposed goes beyond
the talents of the Staff and Board, applying for a grant to cover the costs of a professional
should be considered.
Mr. McCauley asked what would happen if the Board comes up with a list of
properties to designate as historical and then the property owners don't want the
designation.
Mr. Vogel explained that that hasn't been his experience. Some cities have waiting
lists of property owners requesting historic designation.
Chairman Nyberg pointed out that the Board should decide upon the next step now
that the study has been completed. Perhaps reviewing the Minnesota Historical Society's
inventory of Edina's Historic Properties and verifying the current status of the properties
would be good approach.
Mr. Vogel stated that he thought that would be a great idea. The State Historical
Society has a file for each property. Perhaps a member of the Board, or City Staff could
go to St. Paul and review the files; making copies of information not already in City files.
The Board discussed the length of the States Inventory (31 pages) and questioned
the amount of time it would take to review each property. Chairman Nyberg pointed out
that 550 properties on the inventory are houses in the Country Club District. Perhaps the
research should focus on the other 78 properties. Board members agreed that would be a
manageable approach.
Ms. Repya offered to research the City information available on the 78 properties
that are not in the Country Club District. Board members agreed that would be a great
starting point.
Mr. Vogel pointed out that in the future when reviewing potential historic properties
the Board should remember that change is inevitable in American culture and that should
not disqualify properties from historic designation. He also advised the Board to keep
track of the deadlines for the federal grants cycle because much of the work identified in
the context study can be undertaken with the assistance of a grant to the tune of $3000 to
$5000.
Board Members thanked Mr. Vogel for the wonderful work on the context study and
also for taking the extra steps of explaining the study to the Planning Commission and
making sure that the HPB felt comfortable with putting the study's action plan to work.
No formal action was taken.
III. OTHER BUSINESS: None
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
Rescheduled to Tuesday, October 19, 1999, at 7:00 P.M.
V. ADJOURNMENT:
8:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Joyce Repya
AGENDA
RESCHEDULED MEETING OF 'SHE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
September 29, 1999
II. REPORT ON HISTORIC PROPERTIES RESEARCH:
III. OTHER BUSINESS:
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
November 23, 1999
V. ADJOURNMENT:
MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE
EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1999, AT 7:00 P.M.
EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM
4801 WEST 50TH STREET
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Gary Nyberg, John Cooney, Marilyn Curtis, John McCauley, Herman
Ratelle, Lois Wilder and Donald Wray
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
STAFF PRESENT:
Joyce Repya
I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
Mr. Ratelle moved for app,oval of the minutes from the September 29, 1999,
meeting. Mr. McCauley seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried.
II. REPORT ON HISTORIC PROPERTIES RESEARCH:
Chairman Nyberg reminded the Board that at its last meeting they decided the best
approach to implement the Historic Context Study action plan would be to review the 78
properties identified as historic on the 1980 survey. He pointed out that although 628
properties were identified as historic, 550 of those properties make up the Country Club
District which has already been thoroughly documented.
Ms. Repya explained the approach she has taken with the research and shared the
updated files with Board. Most of the information has come from assessing records,
building permits and photographs.
Board members reviewed the files and agreed that is a good idea to compiled all of
the City information into a single file for each historically identified property.
Ms. Repya pointed out that in addition to the historically significant properties, the
inventory also includes more contemporary structures which have won architectural
awards. The most recent date for an architecturally significant property is 1976,
consequently, any property which has received an award since then would not be
included. Ms. Repya asked if a member of the Board would be willing to investigate
architecturally significant properties which have been recognized since 1976. Chairman
Nyberg stated that the Minnesota Society of Architects should have that information and
he would be happy to do the research.
Following a brief discussion, Chairman Nyberg asked what next step the Board
should take. Referring to Appendix C, The Action Plan of the Historic Context Study, Ms.
Repya pointed out that after the heritage resource inventory has been reviewed and
reorganized, the Board may wish to target a district or neighborhood in the City which was
not identified in the previous resource study. Ms. Repya added that Morningside has a
unique story in the City's history, having seceeded in the 1920's to become its own village
and coming back to join Edina in the mid -60's. A thorough examination of Morningside
would be a worthwhile project too.
Ms. Curtis pointed out that Article V of the Action Plan clearly sets out topics to be
researched, which includes the Morningside neighborhood.
Chairman Nyberg asked if a neighborhood map of Edina had ever been created,
pointing out that such a map with more defined neighborhoods would make it easier for the
HPB to identify study areas. Ms. Repya stated that she would be happy to work on a
neighborhood map of the City.
Following a brief discussion, Board Members agreed Ms. Repya should continue
her review of the historic properties, and once a neighborhood map is completed they will
identify and prioritize study areas. No formal action was taken.
III. OTHER BUSINESS:
• CLG Grant Funds Received - Ms. Repya reported that the City has received
$5950 from the Minnesota Historical Society for their portion of the Historic
Context Study. She added that a request for payment has been submitted to the
Edina Foundation for their $3,050 contribution, which together with the CLG
funds completes the cash outlay for the project. The remaining $2,900 were in-
kind and volunteer contributions.
IV. NEXT MEETING DATE:
November 23, 1999
V. ADJOURNMENT:
7:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitte
(J#ce epya
MEMORANDUM
City of Edina
TO: Heritage Preservation Board
FROM: Joyce Repya
SUBJECT: November Meeting
DATE: November 19, 1999
As I'm sure you've suspectE�d, the regularly scheduled meeting for Tuesday,
November 23, 1999 has been cancelled.
Have a safe and festive Thanksgiving holiday!!!!
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