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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003 HPB Meeting Minutes RegularAGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JANUARY 14, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: December 10, 2002 regular meeting II. ANNUAL MEETING: • REVIEW 2002 ACCOMPLISHMENTS • GOALS & OBJECTIVES FOR 2003 • HERITAGE AWARD (PROPOSAL) • REVIEW RULES OF PROCEDURE • 2003 MEETING SCHEDULE III. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT: • MORATORIUM ON DEMOLITIONS • LANDMARK STUDY IV. HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCEDURES: • IDENTIFYING HERITAGE RESOURCES • EVALUATING SIGNIFICANCE • DESIGNATION HERITAGE LANDMARKS • PERMIT PROCEDURES V. OTHER BUSINESS: VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: February 10, 2003 VII. ADJOURNMENT MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JANUARY 14, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS MEMEBERS PRESENT: Chairman, Gary Nyberg, Peggy Jennings, Herman Ratelle, Ann Swenson, Lois Wilder and Don Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: Bill Crawford and John McCauley STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Planning Consultant I. CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Nyberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Member Swenson moved approval of the minutes from the December 10, 2002 regular meeting. Member Wilder seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. III. ANNUAL MEETING: • REVIEW 2002 ACCOMPLISHMENTS: Board members reviewed the following list of accomplishments for 2002: • Amended the city's heritage preservation ordinances (#'s 801 and 850.20) • Established a registry of Edina Heritage Landmarks (replacing the heritage preservation overlay district) • Retained an historic preservation consultant to help implement the new ordinance • Adopted a preliminary list of properties eligible for designation as heritage landmarks and districts • Nominated the Cahill School and Minnehaha Grange Hall for designation as Edina Heritage Landmarks • Initiated the Heritage Landmark District designation process for the Edina Country Club District • Appointed a member of the Planning Commissions to the Heritage Preservation Board • Adopted revised Heritage Preservation Board Rules of Procedures Planner Repya asked if for corrections and/or additions to the listing of accomplishments. Board members agreed that the listing was complete and offered no additions. • GOALS & OBJECTIVES FOR 2003: Consultant Vogel suggested the following goals and objectives for 2003: • Designate the Edina Country Club Heritage Landmark District • Observe Historic Preservation Week (May 5-12) • Develop a preservation concept plan for the Edina Theater Marquee • Conduct a survey of heritage resources in the Morningside neighborhood • Revise the historic preservation element of the city's Comprehensive Plan • Recruit a student member to serve on the Heritage Preservation Board • Develop a website devoted to the city's historic preservation program • Maintain the city's Certified Local Government (CLG) status Board members agreed that the aforementioned goals and objectives were consistent with their vision. They also added the following activities to consider: 50th and France building inventory survey to be done in conjunction with the Edina theater marquee Consider individual homes already identified in the 1980 survey for HLD designation • EDINA HERITAGE AWARD: Consultant Vogel presented the following proposal for an Edina Heritage Award Program: Concent It is proposed that the Edina HPB sponsor an annual "Edina Heritage Award" to showcase local historic preservation activity. The award will be presented during National Preservation Week, May 5-12, 2003. the National Trust for Historic Preservation sponsors Preservation Week in partnership the Minnesota Historical society, the Preservation Alliance of Minnesota and other state and local organizations. Rules 1. the Edina Heritage Award will be given to the individual, family, company or organization that has made an outstanding contribution to the preservation, rehabilitation, restoration and use of Edina's heritage resource. 2 T 2. Any individual, company or organization is eligible to be nominated for the award, including non-residents, but in order to be considered, the heritage resource must be located in the City of Edina. 3. Current members of the Edina HPB are not eligible. 4. One award will be given each year. Procedures 1. The Edina HPB will issue a call for written nominations in February 2. Nominations will be sent to the Edina HPB at City Hall. 3. The deadline for nominations will be the first day of April. 4. A committee appointed by the HPB will select and notify the award winner. 5. A commemorative plaque will be presented to the award winner at a Regular meeting of the Edina City Council during Preservation Week. Discussion ensued regarding the proposed award program. Member Jennings asked if nominations had to be properties designated heritage landmarks. Mr. Vogel stated that the nominated properties did not have to be designated. He added that in other cities where an award system is currently in place, the honors have gone to developers, however the majority are private homeowners. Addressing the appointment of a committee, Mr. Vogel indicated that the selection committee should be small, with probably no more than four members. He added that he would be happy to serve on the first committee. Planner Repya, members Swenson and Nyberg agreed to round out the committee. Planner Repya indicated that she would arrange with the city's Communications Coordinator, Jennifer Wilkinson to advertise the call for nominations as well as the rules and procedures. No formal Action was taken. • REVIEW RULES OF PROCEDURES: Consultant Vogel explained that the review of the Bylaws and Rules of Procedures is a standard agenda item at an annual meeting of most Heritage Preservation Boards. The purpose being that if a board desires any procedural changes, they should only be addressed once a year at the annual meeting. However, in light of the fact that Edina's Rules of Procedures were amended in the past year, it is unlikely that any changes will be required at this time. Board members agreed with Mr. Vogel. No formal action was taken. • 2003 MEETING SCHEDULE Planner Repya presented the Board with the schedule for their regular meetings to be held on the second Tuesday of every month at 7:00 p.m. in the 3 Lower Level Conference Room, at Edina City Hall. The Board accepted the schedule with no changes. IV. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT: • MORATORIUM ON DEMOLITIONS: Planner Repya explained that although at the December meeting the HPB was under the assumption that the moratorium on demolitions of principal structures in the Country Club District expired on December 19`h and could not be extended, the City Attorney, Jerry Gilligan determined that indeed the moratorium could be extended. That being the case, the City Council held two special meetings, one on December 23rd and the other on December 26`", at which time they imposed a six- month extension to the moratorium with an expiration date of June 26, 2003. Planner Repya went on to explain that the City Council is very eager to complete the Heritage Landmark designation of the Country Club District, thus, Staff has scheduled the designation request go before the Planning Commission on January 29, 2003 and on to the City Council with the Planning Commission's recommendations on February 4, 2003. Following a brief discussion, Member Wilder introduced the following resolution recommending the Edina Country Club District be designated as an Edina Heritage Landmark: RESOLUTION HPB — 005 NOMINATION OF EDINA'S COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT FOR DESIGNATION AS AN EDINA HERITAGE LANDMARK RESOLVED: Pursuant to 850.20, subd. 4 of the City Code, the Heritage Preservation Board (HPB) nominates the Edina Country Club District for designation as an Edina Heritage Landmark. Resolution moved by: Member Wilder Resolution seconded by: Member Jennings Board members voting in favor of the resolution: Nyberg, Ratelle, Swenson, and Wray Board members voting against the resolutions: None • LANDMARK NOMINATION STUDY: Consultant Vogel presented the proposed Landmark Nomination Study for the Country Club application package: The study was broken down into the following elements: • Introduction • Description of the District 4 • Historical and Architectural Significance • Evaluation of Landmark Eligibility • Plan of Treatment • National Register of Historic Places Inventory including each address in the district with year built and architectural style, and • Guidelines for New Home Construction in Edina's Country Club District Board members closely reviewed the proposed Guidelines for New Home Construction pointing out that they liked the categories being broken down into recommended vs. not recommended treatments. The following additions were made to the proposal: Exterior finishes: Recommended Wood Shakes Not Recommended Vinyl Roofing Material: Recommended Slate Wood Shingles Architectural Styles: Not Recommended Split Entry Following a brief discussion, Member Swenson moved approval of the proposed Guidelines for New Home Construction with the additions recommended by the Board. Member Jennings seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. V. HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCEDURES: Planner Repya asked Mr. Vogel to walk the Board through the procedures an applicant would go through when requesting a Certificate of Appropriateness from the HPB. Mr. Vogel explained that in order to demolish a structure, build a new structure, move a structure, or conduct an excavation on a landmark designated property, the following procedures should be followed: 1. The property owner will begin the process by completing a Building Permit Application. 2. The Building Department, determining that the subject property is designated Heritage Landmark, will forward the application to the Planning Department that will require in addition to the building permit requirements, a plan showing the roof and eave line elevations of adjacent properties. Applications must be received at least 10 working days before the next scheduled Heritage Preservation Board meeting in order to be heard at said meeting. 3. The Planning Staff will write a report to be presented at the next meeting of the Heritage Preservation Board. The report will explain the nature of the request and recommend a course of action for the Board, either approval of denial. If a proposal is approved, a Certificate of Appropriateness will be issued authorizing the building official to release the building permit if all other requirements are met. The decision of the Board will be final, however appeals may be made to the City Council within 10 days of the meeting. Member Wray asked how property owners would be advised of the landmark designation, particularly if a property sells. Planner Repya explained that the historic designation of a property should be disclosed to a buyer prior to the purchase. She added that once the district is designated, a letter can be sent to the managers of the major real estate offices in town explaining the landmark designation and its ramifications. She also indicated that an article in the City's "About Business" publication might be another vehicle to get the word out about the designation. Board members agreed that would be a good idea. Discussion ensued regarding the procedures. Board members agreed that they appeared straight- forward and easy to comprehend. Mr. Vogel interjected that he did not foresee a great number of permits for demolitions and new construction in the district. V. OTHER BUSINESS: None VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: February 11, 2003 VII. ADJOURNMENT: 8:35 p.m. Respectfully submitted 2 AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: JANUARY 14, 2003 REGULAR MEETING II. RESOLUTIONS OF APPRECIATION: A. LOIS WILDER B. JOHN MCCAULEY III. NEW MEMBERS: BOB KOJETIN & MARIE THORPE IV. ELECTION OF OFFICERS V. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT - REVISE PLAN OF TREATMENT VI. APPEALS PROCESS - 850.20, SUBD. 11 VII. EDINA HERITAGE LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS: BAIRD HOUSE, GRIMES HOUSE, PETERSON HOUSE, CAHILL SCHOOL AND GRANGE HALL VIII. BROWNDALE BRIDGE IX. EDINA THEATER MARQUEE X. HERITAGE PRESERVATION WEBSITE XI. OTHER BUSINESS XII. NEXT MEETING DATE: MARCH 11, 2003 XIII. ADJOURNMENT MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, Bill Crawford, Bob Kojetin, Ann Swenson and Don Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: Peggy Jennings, Herman Ratelle and Marie Thorpe STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Planning Consultant I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Member Swenson moved approval of tAll voted aye. The themotion carried.nuary 14, meeting. Member Crawford seconded the motion. II. RESOLUTIONS OF APPRECIATION: A. Lois Wilder Chairman Nyberg stated that Lois has been a long-standing member of the Heritage Preservation Board who has been instrumental in many of the positive initiatives undertaken by the Board during her tenure. Adding that her presence on the Board will be missed, Chairman Nyberg introduced the following Resolution of Appreciation for adoption: WHEREAS, Ms. Lois Wilder was appointed a regular member of the Edina Heritage Preservation Board; and WHEREAS, Ms. Wilder served in good stead on the board from February 1, 1981, until her resignation effective February 1, 2003; and WHEREAS, Ms. Wilder provided significant advice and valuable leadership toward the appreciation of historic preservationnt and WHEREAS, Ms. Wilder's contributions have benefited past, present future citizens of Edina; NOW, THEREFORE, be it resolved by the Heritage Preservation Board of the City of Edina that Ms. Wilder be applauded and commended for her years of service and contributions to the improvement of the historical resources and the quality of life in the City of Edina. Member Swenson moved that the Board adopt the Resolution of Appreciation commending Ms. Wilder for her valuable service to the City. Member Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. shall mean the physical alteration of a building such that 50% or more of the surface area of all exterior walls in the aggregate, are removed." Board members discussed whether or not a change to the front facade should be given consideration for review because of the impact it could have on the streetscape. Chairman Nyberg agreed that the front facade of the home is an important element to the historic integrity of the district; however, he fears that to regulate the front facade would create the same problems that have been identified with the review of additions. Member Swenson agreed pointing out that it would be difficult to determine how much of a change to the facade would require a review... adding bay windows, a covered front entry, etc. Member Wray pointed out that the importance of the fagade is an element which might best be handled from an education standpoint, relying on the homeowners to voluntarily consider it's importance without imposing a review process. Board members agreed with Member Wray. Following a brief discussion, Member Swenson moved to approve the revised #2 plan of treatment as recommended by Staff. Member Crawford seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. V1. APPEALS PROCESS — 850.20, SUBD.11 Planner Repya explained that Staff has reviewed the language in the Zoning Ordinance 850.20, Subd. 11, addressing the Appeals Process and found it to be ambiguous and in need of clarification. Currently, the section reads: "All decisions of the City Planner and the Board with respect to certificates of appropriateness shall be subject to review by the Council. Any party aggrieved by the denial of a certificate of appropriateness shall have a right to appeal such decision directly to the Council by filing a written notice of appeal with the City Clerk. Upon receipt of the notice, the City Clerk will transmit a copy to the Board." Ms. Repya suggested that the following insufficiencies be addressed: 1. The Council will not review all decisions, only appeals. 2. Appeals will not be limited to the denial of decisions. One may appeal any decision. 3. There is no time limit established for one to file an appeal a decision. To be consistent with appeals the Council hears from other Boards, a ten day appeal period should be imposed. In consideration of the aforementioned insufficiencies, Planner Repya offered the following revision for consideration: "An appeal from a decision of the Board with respect to certificates of appropriateness or an administrative decision shall be subject to review by the 4 V Council. Any party aggrieved by a decision shall have a right to appeal such decision by filing a written notice to the City Clerk no later than ten days after the decision of the Board. Upon receipt of the notice, the City clerk shall transmit a copy of said notice to the Board." Board members discussed the proposed revision and agreed that the language was not only clearer, but also consistent with the appeals process already in place for the Zoning Board. Member Kojetin then moved approval of the proposed revision to 850.20, Subd. 11, as outlined by Staff. Member Crawford seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. VII. EDINA HERITAGE LANDMARK DESIGNATIONS: • Baird House • Grimes House • Peterson House • Cahill School and Grange Hall Planner Repya reported that the City Council, at their February 4h meeting, gave first reading to an ordinance amendment designating the aforementioned properties Edina Heritage Landmarks. The Council will hear second reading on February 18 , and if approved, the properties will become Edina Heritage Landmarks under the revised Heritage Preservation Ordinance. Ms. Repya reminded the Board that the individual preservation plan for each property will be completed within the year. Board members expressed their pleasure that the properties had been designated and indicated that they were looking forward to meeting with the homeowners to work on the preservation plans. No formal action was taken. VIII. BROWNDALE BRIDGE: Consultant Vogel explained that the Browndale Bridge is due for its periodic engineering review. The bridge is located within the Country Club District, however was not mentioned in the National Register documents. Currently, the bridge does not meet transportation or safety requirements, however it is still functional. From a preservation standpoint, Mr. Vogel suggested that there are several approaches the Board could take: 1. Monitor the engineering work and capital improvement budget that goes along with that; treating the bridge as part of the Country Club District, specifically within the parameters of the city infrastructure as set out in item #12 of the plan of treatment. 2. Consider designating the Browndale Bridge an Edina Heritage Landmark in and of itself, which would provide for a plan of treatment specific to the bridge. Board members discussed the possible reconfiguration of Browndale Avenue if the bridge were no longer able to support vehicular traffic. Concern was raised about the W intrusion into the mill site to the east. Mr. Vogel pointed out that it would be best to incorporate the mill site into any designation activities undertaken for the bridge, however, no designation discussions should take place until the engineers have completed their study; then they will have facts to bring to the table. A brief discussion ensued. No formal action was taken. IX. EDINA THEATER MARQUEE: Consultant Vogel explained that he asked this item be place on the agenda in order for him to gain direction from the Board as to how to proceed with the possible landmark designation of the sign and marquee. Board members discussed the importance of the sign for the identitz of the community. They all agreed that to lose the sign would be a huge loss for the 50` and France commercial district as well as the entire city. Mr. Vogel explained that the sign and marquee could be designated an Edina Heritage Landmark as a historic object. Board members all agreed that the first step toward possible designation of the sign would be to contact the owner of the theater and discuss City's interest in the possible designation. Planner Repya stated that she would research City records to determine the ownership of the theater and proceed with a letter of interest from the Board. No formal action was taken. IX. HERITAGE PRESERVATION WEBSITE: Planer Repya explained the she has been working with Jennifer Wilkinson, the City's Communications Coordinator to establish web presence for the Heritage Preservation Board. The Heritage Preservation Board is accessed by clicking on the City Council on the home page and proceeding to Advisory Boards and Commissions and then the Heritage Preservation Board. Currently, there is a short description describing the responsibilities of the Board. Ms. Wilkinson has also done an excellent job including the Historic Context Study as a separate choice. This study summarizes the history of significant areas in the City and was taken from the Study prepared by Robert Vogel and Associates in 1999. Board members asked if the landmark designated properties would be identified on the site. Ms. Repya stated that ideally, once a property is designated an Edina Heritage Landmark, it would gain a place on the site where the significance of the site would be highlighted as well as the plan of treatment adopted. Board members agreed that the Heritage Preservation Board having presence on the City's web site is an excellent resource for anyone interested in researching Edina's history as well as another way to educate the public. No formal action was taken. XI. OTHER BUSINESS: None XII. NEXT MEETING DATE: March 11, 2003 0 Several Board members explained that they would be out of town for the regularly scheduled March meeting. Planner Repya suggested that since the landmark designations have been approved by the City Council and assuming no pressing business comes to light, that the March meeting be canceled. She did add that the Boards and Commissions dinner is scheduled for March 25`h, so in essence, the Board will be gathering on an informal basis. Board members agreed that would be a good plan, consequently, the next meeting will occur on Tuesday, April 15, 2003. No formal action was taken. XIII. ADJOURNMENT: 8:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Joyce Repya 7 AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, April 8, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: FEBRUARY 11, 2003 REGULAR MEETING II. H-03-1: 4619 MOORLAND AVENUE - REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS III. 2003 EDINA HERITAGE AWARD IV. EDINA HERITAGE LANDMARK ORDINANCE UPDATE V. 4515 EDINA BOULEVARD - NEW DETACHED GARAGE VI. OTHER BUSINESS VII. NEXT MEETING DATE: MAY 13, 2003 VIII. ADJOURNMENT MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, APRIL 8, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50TH STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Pro -tem Bill Crawford, Peggy Jennings, Bob Kojetin, Ann Swenson and Marie Thorpe MEMBERS ABSENT: Gary Nyberg, Herman Ratelle and Don Wray STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Consultant Bonnie Speer -McGrath, 4619 Wooddale Avenue Nick Smaby, Choice Woods Co. I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Member Kojetin moved approval of the minutes from the February 11, 2003 meeting. Member Swenson seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. II. 1-1-03-1: 4619 Moorland Avenue — Request for a Certificate of Appropriateness Planner Repya advised the Board that the subject property is located on the northeast corner of Moorland Avenue and Country Club Road and consists of two lots; one fronting on Moorland Avenue on which the existing house sits, and a vacant lot fronting Edina Boulevard to the north. The existing house is a Mediterranean style structure built in 1936. Originally, when Lee and Bonnie McGrath purchased the home, it was their intention to undertake a remodel and updating project. However, as they became better acquainted with the structure, it became evident that due to years of neglect, serious structural problems existed which made the cost of their remodeling prohibitive. Planner Repya explained that the subject request is to demolish the existing 1936 structure and replace it with a French Provincial home. The footprint of the proposed home is very similar to the original home; fronting on Moorland Avenue and utilizing the vacant lot on Edina Boulevard only to achieve their rear yard setback. The French Provincial architecture style proposed is consistent with the architecture styles recommended in the guidelines of the Plan of Treatment for the Country Club District. As required, an exterior elevation demonstrating the roof and eave lines of the proposed home in relation to the adjacent home to the north on Moorland Avenue has been provided. The plan indicates that the proposed home will be 4'8" taller than the adjacent house when measured from the uppermost ridgeline of each house; the distance between the houses at that point is 56.5 feet. The setback provided between structures at the closest point is 25.83 feet. Planner Repya stated that staff finds that the information provided supporting the subject request meets the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance, Country Club District Plan of Treatment and the Secretary of the Interior Standards. The exterior elevation demonstrates that the subject home will be taller than the adjacent home, however, due to the considerable distance between the structures, it does not appear that the proposed home will overwhelm the neighboring home nor be out of proportion with its surroundings. Staff finds that the plans presented show a great attention to detail, and as required in the Plan of Treatment, it appears the home will be compatible in size, scale, color and texture with the period revival style houses that give the district its identity of time and place. Approval is recommended for the request to demolish the existing house at 4619 Moorland Avenue and replace it with the French Provincial home proposed. Present at the meeting to address the proposal were owner, Bonnie Spear - McGrath and Nick Smaby, representing the builder Choice Woods Co. Member Kojetin asked if the pool was to be removed, and if so, if a new pool was proposed. Mrs. McGrath explained that the existing pool will be removed and it is unlikely that they will install a new pool Member Swenson asked if the McGrath's were planning on combining both lots, or keeping them separate. Mrs. McGrath stated that they are now in the process of combining the lots. Member Jennings asked how the height of the new house compares with the height of the existing house. Mr. Smaby with Choice Woods Co. explained that they did not compare the heights because it was not required. The Plan of Treatment only required a comparison of the new height with the height of 2 the adjacent home. Consultant Vogel added that the proportion of the new structure with its surroundings is what is important. Board members agreed, however added that it would be interesting to know the height difference between the old and new. Mr. Vogel added that he was impressed with the 21St Century interpretation of a French Provincial home. The plans do an excellent job of representing a modern home that blends with the historic neighborhood. Member Swenson stated that she was originally concerned with the scale of the proposed home, particularly since the ridge of the roof is nearly five feet taller than the adjacent home on Moorland Avenue. However, upon visiting the site, it became clear that the proposed home fits well on the lot for several reasons: 1. The lot is large. 2. The lot is at the end of the block and only really relates to the house to the north on Moorland, and 3. The subject lot actually sits lower than the surrounding properties both to the north on Moorland Ave., but also across the street on Country Club Road. The proposed home appears very linear, but the existing home also has a very linear appearance on the lot. Although the new home will be taller, if the home were proposed on a lot in the middle of the block, it would appear far more imposing. Member Swenson concluded that the proposed home fits well on the subject lot. Member Jennings agreed that she had some concerns about the scale of the home particularly with regard to the vertical presence. However, she stated that she was happy to see only one of the three garage doors visible from the front street and felt the overall plan was very handsome. Planner Repya interjected that Kris Aaker with the Planning Department has review the plans particularly looking at the building height, and determined that the proposed structure meets the zoning ordinance requirements for building height. Assuming the Certificate of Appropriateness is approved, the next step in the process will be the submittal of final building plans which will be reviewed by the Building, Planning and Engineering Departments to ensure compliance with all applicable city codes. Following a brief discussion, consultant Vogel pointed out that if the demolition of the existing home is approved, the HPB would like to have photos of the house prior to demolition to document what is being removed. He explained that this will be a standard practice whenever a structure is removed on a landmark property or within a landmark district. 3 Member Swenson asked whether the roofing material had been determined. Mrs. McGrath indicated that those decisions had not been finalized, however they will only consider materials that are recommended in the guidelines for the district. Mr. Smaby added that slate would be the preferable material, however there are currently very good synthetic materials on the market that could be good replacements for slate. Mr. Smaby continued by offering background information about his company, Choice Woods Co.. He indicated that they have done extensive work on historically designated homes in Minneapolis and take pride in their attention to detail and the historic integrity of their projects. Mr. Smaby offered his insights into the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) process, being that their application was the first to be heard by Board. He pointed out that he felt tying the application for a COA with the Building Permit required his firm to create detailed plans which were quite costly. Normally, at this stage of the process, the plans would be much more schematic in nature. Member Swenson stated that she appreciated Mr. Smaby's comments, however, indicated that in order for the HPB to make an informed decision about something as important as the demolition of an existing home in the district, the plans for the replacement home must provide more detail than a S schematic plan would provide. Member Crawford stated that he understood Mr. Smaby's point. Adding that in his experience working for the State Highway Department, decisions often were made with information provided on preliminary plans. Consultant Vogel explained that the standards guiding the Board when making a decision on a Certificate of Appropriateness are whether the plans demonstrate compliance with the Plan of Treatment. In order for the Board to make an informed decision, details regarding the architectural style and building treatments are important. He added that while approval is generally based on the plans presented, the homeowner does have the ability to make changes, such as moving windows or doors, as long as the change falls within the guidelines in the Plan of Treatment. Member Kojetin asked what would happen if they opted to change the exterior materials from stucco to lap siding. Planner Repya indicated that lap siding would not be appropriate for French Provincial architecture, however if a change was proposed that was in keeping with the guidelines and the architectural style of the structure, that would not be a problem. Member Kojetin then asked if the surrounding neighbors had received notification of what was being proposed on the subject property. Planner El i Repya explained that unlike the City's Zoning Board of Appeals which requires notification of surrounding neighbors as required under Minnesota State Statutes, the Certificate of Appropriateness process is not considered a public hearing (although all business of the Heritage Preservation Board is open to the public), thus notification of the neighbors is not required. She added however, that the City strongly recommends when property owners are making changes to their homes requiring a Certificate of Appropriateness that affected neighbors are given an opportunity to review the new plans. Board members agreed that it is a good idea for the homeowner to inform the neighbors of proposed changes in a more informal setting. Mrs. McGrath then pointed out that she and her husband are planning on sharing their plans with the neighbors, however thought it would be more prudent to wait until they had gone through the Certificate of Approriateness iled the plans was a good 111 concurred that notification after the HPB had app o idea. Following a brief discussion, Member Swenson moved approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the existing house at 4619 Moorland Avenue and replace it with the subject French Provincial subject to the conditions that: 1. The height of the new structure not exceeding that, which was depicted on the plans, and 2. Subject to the concept plans presented. Member Jennings seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. Planner Repya thanked Mrs. McGrath and Mr. Smaby for the excellent attention to detail provided in this first submittal the Board has heard. All Board members agreed that the information provided to support this Certificate of Appropriateness will serve as an excellent example for future proposals. I, 2003 EDINA HERITAGE AWARD: Planner Repya advised the Board that the deadline for nominations for the 1St Annual Heritage Award was April 1, 2003. The nominations committee consisting of Members Nyberg and Swenson, Planner Repya and Consultant Vogel reviewed the two submittals: The Baird House, 4400 West 50th Street and The Heritage of Edina, 3434 Heritage Drive. The committee unanimously agreed that the award should be presented to the Baird House, owners — Brad and Arlene Forrest, designers/contractors — MA Peterson Designbuild, Inc. Board members reviewed the text and photos that accompanied the submittal for the Baird House and agreed that the beautiful addition to the home is definitely deserving of the first Heritage Award. 5 Consultant Vogel suggested that the Mayor present the award to the Forrest's and MA Peterson at the City Council meeting that falls during Heritage Preservation Week (May 5-12). Planner Repya clarified that the City Council will meet on Tuesday, May6th of that week. Board members agreed that would be an excellent idea. Planner Repya offered to order plaques to be presented as the award. Discussion ensued regarding whether the plaques should be wood or the metal type that one would attach to the exterior of the structure. It was agreed that the cost might drive the decision. Consultant Vogel indicated that in some cities, the homeowner buys their plaque. Planner Repya suggested that due to the time limitations, the traditional wooden plaque be presented on May 6t'. Board members agreed that would be fine. No formal action was taken. IV. EDINA HERITAGE LANDMARK ORDINANCE UPDATE: Planner Repya reported that since the last HPB meeting there have been positive actions taken on the preservation front. The City Council, at their February 18th meeting, completed the Heritage Landmark designation process for the Country Club District as well as the five properties previously zoned historic. Board members received copies of the approved Plan of Treatment for the Country Club District as well as the updated ordinances. Discussion ensured regarding the landmark designation process. Board members agreed that they were very pleased with the outcome and look forward to the work entailed with managing the landmark properties. V. 4515 EDINA BOULEVARD — NEW DETACHED GARAGE: 4625 DREXEL AVENUE — NEW DETACHED GARAGE: Planner Repya advised the Board that the subject properties have both submitted plans to the City last Friday to turn their current attached garages into living space and build new detached garages in the rear yards. Both plans will require a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for a new structure being built in the district. Ms. Repya shared the plans with the Board to show them of the most common request for a COA they will hear for the district. Consultant Vogel stated that the review of such plans should not be that controversial, since detached garages are appropriate in the district from a historic standpoint. The main concern will be that the structures are not detrimental to the site lines of the house. 0 Planner Repya pointed out that the information provided thus far for both properties is insufficient to act on a Certificate of Appropriateness. Once the elevations of adjacent structures as well as the distances between structures is provided, the Board will be better equipped to make a decision. No formal action was taken regarding the properties. Board members continued by discussing the application process for a Certificate of Appropriateness. It was agreed that a deadline should be established prior to each meeting to ensure that Staff has sufficient time to review the plans and prepare the report for the Board. Member Swenson moved that a deadline be established for the submittal of a complete application for a Certificate of Appropriateness of 10 days prior to the regularly scheduled Heritage Preservation Board meeting. Member Jennings seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. VI. OTHER BUSINESS: None VII. NEXT MEETING DATE: May 13, 2003 VIII. ADJOURNMENT: 9:15 P.M. Respectfully Submitted C,e1 � JoyYeRepya 7( ey 7 AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, MAY 13, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: APRIL 8, 2002 REGULAR MEETING II. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS — COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT A. H-03-3: 4501 Wooddale Avenue — Demolish Detached Garage B. H-03-4: 4625 Drexel Avenue — Build Detached Garage in. MORNINGSIDE LANDMARK DISTRICT STUDY IV. HERITAGE PRESERVATION WEBSITE — LINKS V. DISCUSS PROCEDURES FOR DEALING WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS VI. OTHER BUSINESS: VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE: JUNE 10, 2003 IX. ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, May 13, 2003 AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 4801 WEST 50TH STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: ChairJennin gs, an Gary s, Bob Kojetin9AAnn lCrawford, Peggy Swenson, Marie 9 Thorpe and Don Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: Herman Ratelle STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Keith White, 4501 Consultant 4501 Wooddale Avenue Richard Lundin, threestudiosinc. Jim Scott, Choice Woods Co. I, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Member Komoved for approval of the minutes m the April O meeting. Member Jennings seconded the motion. All voted ayeThe motion carried. II. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS —COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT A. H-03-3: 4501 Wooddale Avenue- Demolish Detached Garage Planner Repya explained that the subject property owned by Mr. Keith White is located on the southeast comer of Wooddale Avenue and Sunnyside Road. The existing home, constructed in 1936 is a Norman style with English Tudor Influence. Currently, a detached 2 -car garage serves the home accessed from a driveway off of Sunnyside Road to the north. n the The subject request is to demolish an accessed existing 2-stall d tlrivewaye running along thearage located 'east southeast comer of the rear yard, property line from Sunnyside Road. A new attached 3 -stall garage is proposed as part of an addition to the rear of the home. The driveway on Sunnyside off of Wooddale Avenue is proposedioaun along theod is to be closed and a new driveway o south property line, abutting the driveway serving the southerly home at 4503 Wooddale Avenue. The Architect for the project, Richard Lundin of threestudios Inc. provided a site plan illustrating the elevation of the existing garage (to be removed) as well as the new addition compared to the elevation of the abutting property to the south. Regarding the new proposed driveway off of Wooddale Avenue, Planner Repya pointed out that the City's Engineering Department requires a permit for new curb cuts off of city streets. When discussing the subject proposal with a City Engineering Tech, Repya was advised that new curb cuts off of Wooddale Avenue are looked at very closely due to Wooddale's heavy traffic loads. Interestingly, it appears that the current location of the driveway on Sunnyside Road is a much more dangerous location (directly in front of the Wooddale Avenue/Sunnyside Road traffic island). The Engineering Department believes that the driveway off of Wooddale Avenue is a preferred location from both an engineering and safety standpoint. As part of the curb cut application process, the plans must show that the Sunnyside Road curb cut will be closed and the elevations of the new driveway are indicated to ensure that run-off does not compromise neighboring properties. In conclusion, Planner Repya stated that the information provided supporting the subject request meets the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance and Country Club District Plan of Treatment. The exterior elevations of the subject property contrasted to the abutting southerly property indicate that the removal of the existing detached garage will not detrimentally affect either property. Furthermore, the removal of the garage will not have a negative impact the property from the streetscape. Initially, the relocation of the driveway from Sunnyside Road to Wooddale Avenue was a concern, however, the City's Engineering Department clearly pointed out that the proposed driveway off of Wooddale Avenue would better serve the subject property as well as the neighborhood in general. Ms. Repya then recommended approval of the request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the existing detached garage subject to the plans presented. Member Swenson asked for clarification on the proposed driveway. Richard Lundin, Architect for the proponent indicated that the driveway will extend to the property line and will abut the driveway serving the home to the south. The driveway is proposed to be 10 feet wide with no greenspace abutting the neighbor. Planner Repya pointed out that the city code requires a minimum 12 -foot width for a driveway; however, there are many examples of driveways that are less than 12 feet, particularly in shared driveway situations. 2 0 lted When asked if the southerly neighbor had been he neighbor as�n the midst of a large ut the proposed driveway, homeowner Keith White stated that 9hbo remodeling protect and is not residing at the home n out of the countryHis attempts to . Addressing the contact have not been successful because the neighbor has b width of the driveway, Mr. White indicated that the width has been reduced to 10 feet to save a birch tree in the front yard. ong Member Swenson expressed concern regarding enepropose hosed She stated thatdriveway 182 al feet the south property line unbeknownst to the abutting 9 of concrete is pretty imposing. Mr. Lund in explained that the plan for the driveway is eemore aesthetimpting to cally pheasing utilitarian space with the southerly neighbor, and crate a area in the rear yard. hairman Nyberg opined that the existing driveway off of Addressing the driveway, C Sunnyside is much less visible from the streetscape than the ere also proposed driveway eet th would be. He further observed that if the neighbor's driveway proposed plan would create a 20 -foot x 182 -foot Mass from the s. To require equi e a 12 -foot driveway width would create an even greater imposition Mr. Lundin responded that they considered separating he driveways wouhdprobably be e curb with a green strip, but determined that would be difficult driven over. While the plan for the neighbor hose to perhaps has not been finalni g both sides of the considering coordinating a plan with the 9 driveway with brick to provide a unified appearance. Chairman Nyberg asked if the addition would increase The addition the height cons sts of athe house. m Lundin responded that the height would not increase attached garage with living space above. Care was taken the historic ing home. phase to ensure that the rooflines and massing are in keeping of PlannpY er Re a reminded the Board that the subject request foto he Certificate would ppropriateness entails whether the removal of the existing de garage interfere with the historic integrity of the property. Following a brief discussion, Member Crawford moved approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the detached garage on the property subject to the plans presented. Member Wray seconded the motion. Member Swenson reiterated her concerns regarding the added mass of concrete on the lot due to the driveway moving to the south property e. Consultant Vogel explained that the National Register nomination Boa d has no bas s to does not address circulation pattern, driveways or landscaping, so technically,rate or not. Also, in this case, make a determination as to whether a driveway is appro p 3 since moving the driveway better meets the City's safety codes, it would not be wise to make a decision going against a professional opinion. He added that one can't trade public safety for heritage preservation. Discussion ensued regarding the possibility for the driveway plans to coincide with the southerly neighbor's plans being that they too are in the construction mode. Mr. White stated that he would not be opposed to working with the neighbor on a driveway plan that would provide a unified view from the streetscape. Chairman Nyberg, encouraged Mr. White to discuss the driveway plan with the abutting neighbor, adding that he is concerned that the neighbor is unaware that a driveway is being planned to run along the north length of their lot. Member Thorpe added that she is aware of quite a few shared or abutting driveway situations in the Country Club District that have been landscaped in such a way that the impact from the streetscape has been considerably reduced. She then encouraged Mr. White to work with his designer and the abutting neighbor to come up with a unified plan. The motion being made earlier by Member Crawford and seconded by Member Wray, Chairman Nyberg called for the vote. Members Jennings, Kojetin, Nyberg, Crawford and Wray voted aye. Member Swenson voted nay. The motion carried. B. H-03-4 4625 Drexel Avenue — Build New Detached Garage Planner Repya advised the Board that the subject property is located on the east side of the 4600 block of Drexel Avenue. The existing home is a 1931 English Cottage with Norman Influence. A 2 -stall garage is attached to the rear of the house accessed by a driveway running along the south property line. The subject request involves converting the existing single story attached garage to two -stories of living space and building a new detached garage in the southeast corner of the rear yard. In January of this year, the homeowner received a variance for the proposed addition, necessitated because of a pre-existing non -conforming side yard setback along the north wall of the home. The new detached garage is proposed to compliment the architectural style of the home, incorporating a sloping roofline with wood sticking and stucco on the walls. The proposed three-foot setback from the side and rear lot lines meets the zoning ordinance requirements. The closest structure to the proposed garage is the flat roofed section of the abutting home to the south at 4627 Drexel Avenue which originally had an attached garage that has since been converted to living space with a new detached garage built in the 4 L apet southeast corner of the rear yard — similar to the sJCin height and will be 8 5et request. The north rfeet wall of the flat roof is presented as approximately 156 from the subject garage. The west elevation e midpoint of the gable and 21.2 -foot an eight -foot height at the eave, 14.5 fee height at the uppermost ridge. The site plan also illustrates the distance of 35 feet from to eastposed garage to the attached garage located behind the subject property PlannepY r Re a observed that the information provided supporting the subject and ti cate of Appropriateness request meets the requirements of the zoning ordinance Country Club Plan of Treatment. The plans ia'cate that the exterior materials nd meet he setback and height the new garage will compliment the existing home requirements set out in the Zoning Ordinance. Ms. Repya concluded that in addition to the aforementioned facts, deus Staff recommends rovalo g request to build a new detached garage J garages are common in the Country Club Districts subject to the plans presented. She added that Jim Scott of Choice Woods Company was present to address any questions. Chairman Nyberg asked if any changes were proposed would for the d not change; Mr.tiScot indicated that the driveway curb cut from the street the driveway reaches the rear yard will the driveway change to accommodate access to the new garage in the southeast corner. Member Wray observed that the major change he saw was the new garage will lthe be visible from the street, however, that is not inconsistent with o properties p district. Following a brief discussion, Member Kojetin moved approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness to build a new detached garage in the southeast corner seconded the motof the property ote and subject to the plans presented. Member Jennings aye. The motion carried. III. MORNINGSIDE LANDMARK DISTRICT STUDY Consultant Vogel provided an outline of the proposedncluded the survey undertakes firm will when researching the proposed Morningside Historic District. He objectives, survey activities, a listing of the kelldas a't timetable andv o unteered, geographical limits, chronological limits as w opportunities. Mr. Vogel pointed out that the most important task lstr District ill be tes folr ne landmark status. between now and the end of the year whether the Morningside qualifies 5 At the same time his firm will determine which individual houses would qualify for landmark designation. Member Kojetin asked if the Morningside neighborhood association would be aware that their area is being surveyed and considered for landmark status. Planner Repya explained that it is unlikely that there is a neighborhood association with whom the City could communicate. However, she assured the Board that there is a strong sense of pride among Morningside residents and she is certain historic survey work undertaken in their neighborhood would be well received. Mr. Vogel added that all of the survey work would be undertaken from the public right- of-way, with no trespassing on private property. A visual assessment will be undertaken including all the structures, driveways, streets and boulevards. The information will be recorded on a standardized reporting forma Once the assessments are completed, it will be determined whether the district warrants landmark designation or whether only specific houses qualify. The final product will be a report that will clearly explain the survey data and define the significance of the district. Mr. Vogel pointed out that the report will be very helpful in the future, and it is unfortunate that when the Country Club District was surveyed that a similar report was not created. Regarding the actual survey activities, Mr. Vogel explained that the fieldwork will take place during the late summer early fall using volunteers as well as members of the HPB. He added that it would be a good idea to conduct an orientation workshop sometime in the summer to educate those participating in the survey. Member Kojetin stated that he is aware of narratives from Morningside residents that are available at the Edina Historical Society which might be helpful to the study. Mr. Vogel indicated that the survey would require from 5 to 15 volunteers to gather the data. He added that people who live in the area being surveyed are often not the best candidates to work on the survey, due to lack of objectivity and losing time talking with their neighbors. The information gathered would be heavily biased toward architecture and what is visible from the street. Mr. Vogel concluded that an historic survey has not been conducted in the City of Edina in 20 years. The Morningside Study will be an excellent jump- start for preservation activities in the City. A brief discussion followed. No formal action was taken. IV. HERITAGE PRESERVATION WEBSITE — LINKS: Consultant Vogel suggested that following state and federal links be added to the Heritage Preservation section of the City's website: 10 National Park Service, Cultural Resources Stewardship programs (links to Heritage Preservation Services, Preservation If, Briefs, Technical Notes, standards & guidelines, tax incentives, National Register) www.cr.nps.gov 2. Minnesota State Historic Preservation Office www.mnhs.or-q/preserve/shoo g. National Trust for Historic Preservation, Historic owner www.nationaltrust-OKS/historic homeowner 4. Preservation Alliance of Minnesota www mnpreservation.org Board members agreed that it would be an e enebi e.Planner ea to ovide these Repya indicated for those researching heritage preservation on theCity's that she would forward the links on to Jennifer Wilkinson, the City's Communications Coordinator who is in charge of the website. F III. DI%Zff A •L"'r . -/ --- ---- - - APPROPRIATENESS: Planner Repya explained that it has become apparent that the majority of the requests for Certificates of Appropriateness (COA) in the Country u trShe Clubemindedistrict will b Board than either the removal or construction of detached garages. e and at their April 8th meeting plans foratha conversion for the property owned by Peger and Laura construction of a new detached garage licant had Gideon at 4515 Edina Boulevard (H-03-2) the Board was not able to take action. e reviewed. Because the a not provided elevations of abutting properties, The contractor for the Gideon's submitted the required materials by A3pril 2 th. The their homeowner was very concerned about the was not out of -week delay May 1) in character for the property ting project. In light of the fact that the garage roved. and the necessary documentation was provided, the COA was app Ms. Repya observed that it might be more practical from a time standpoint relating to City Staff, the HPB and the residents to handle requests for garages differently from the teardown and rebuilding of the home. When asked for his opinion on the subject, Consultant on athat significant heritage comes in that is straight- forward and appears to have no effect resource; the city planner should be able to issue the COA administratively. For demolitions and garages in the Country Club abthehis would mean it heritage landmarkanprovidedghat or structure that is not part of an individually eligible or the work meets preservation standards and the guidelines mm subcn the plan of ommittee the city plannertcane added that the HPB may choose to set up a sub whom the consult before issuing administrative a Certificates of Appropriateness. 7 Member Kojetin stated that he felt that for Staff to have to sole responsibility for reviewing the COA's for garages would be too much of a burden. Planner Repya explained that the only requests she would approve would be those that were straight forward, meeting all of the requirements set out in the plan of treatment, much like the City reviews all building plans looking for compliance with the zoning code. Those requests that were questionable would be brought to the Board. Member Thorpe stated that she felt an administrative review Certificate of Appropriateness for the garages would be efficient. If a request did not meet the specifications set out in the plan of treatment, then bring it to the Board. Member Swenson stated that she believes it is important to treat all requests equally. The review process is new for everyone and it is important for the HPB to gain experience dealing with the requests. Perhaps down the road, these garage requests may be so routine that the Board will determine that Staff should handle them, but for now both Staff and the Board need the experience. Member Jennings agreed with Member Swenson, reiterating that HPB review of all applications for a COA is important for the Board gain experience. The time delay should not be a concern. Ms. Jennings also asked if the height of the existing structure could also be included in the list of required information to offer a point of reference when reviewing a project. Following a brief discussion, the Board members agreed that they would like to review all requests for a COA at this time to gain experience and treat all requests the same. Member Swenson asked if Planner Repya would like a motion to support the administrative approval of the COA (H-03-2) at 4515 Edina Boulevard. Ms Repya stated that would be a good idea. Member Swenson them moved to uphold Staffs approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness to build a detached garage on the subject property. Member Crawford seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. VI. OTHER BUSINESS: None VII. NEXT MEETING DATE: June 10, 2003 VIII. ADJOURNMENT: 8:15 P.M. Respectfully submitte AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JUNE 10, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: MAY 13, 2002 REGULAR MEETING II. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS — COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT A. H-03-5: 4625 Wooddale Avenue — Demolish Detached Garage III. BAIRD HOUSE PLAN OF TREATMENT IV. OUTREACH INFORMATION V. 2003 MINNESOTA HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 18-19,2003 IN NEW ULM, MINNESOTA VI. OTHER BUSINESS: VIII. NEXT MEETING DATE: JULY 8, 2003 IX. ADJOURNMENT: r� MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JUNE 10, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50T" STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chairman Don Wray, Bill Crawford, Bob Kojetin, Herman Ratelle and Ann Swenson MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, Peggy Jennings and Marie Thorpe STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Planning Consultant Peter Jacobson, Lake Country Builders Brad & Arlene Forrest, 4400 West 50th Street i 1. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Member Ratelle moved for approval of the minutes from the May 13, 2003 meeting. Member Swenson seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. II. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS - Country Club District: H-03-5 4625 Wooddale Avenue — Demolish detached garage Planner Repya explained that the subject property is located on the northeast corner of Wooddale Avenue and Country Club Road. The existing home, ctedin editerranean--style.--Currently;-a-non-conforming 1.5 stall detached garage sitting a non -conforming 1.4 feet from the east property line serves the home accessed from a driveway on the south side of the property. The Edina city code requires that a detached garage may be no closer than three feet from the side or rear lot line. Furthermore, the garage may be no smaller than a 2 -stall structure. The subject request is to demolish the existing detached garage and incorporate a new attached 2 -stall garage with an addition to the south and east elevation of the home. The city code requires a minimum five foot side yard setback for an attached garage which is illustrated on the proposed plan. A new driveway is shown on the plan, however a new curb cut from Wooddale Avenue will not be required. The plans also illustrate the elevation of the addition compared to the elevation of the closest abutting property to the east at 4630 Drexel Avenue. A distance of 49 feet 6 inches is illustrated between the closest points of each structure. The height of the proposed garage is 11 feet at the uppermost point of the ridge compared to an 18 -foot height to the eave line of the adjacent dwelling. Furthermore, a dense row of evergreens separate the two properties, reducing the impact the properties have on each other. Ms. Repya concluded that the information provided to support the subject request meets the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance and the Country Club District Plan of Treatment. The exterior elevations of the subject property contrasted to the abutting property at 4630 Drexel Avenue indicate that the removal of the existing detached garage will not be detrimental to either property. Furthermore, the removal of the detached garage will improve the existing non -conforming status of a too small garage (1.5 stalls) located too close (1.4 feet) to the property line. Planner Repya then recommended approval of the request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the existing garage subject to the plans presented. Discussion ensued among the Board. Member Swenson commented that the plan did a good job of addressing the pie shaped lot, which can be challenging. Consultant Vogel stated that the plan presented meets the standards established for new construction in the district. Peter Jacobson of Lake Country Builders was present to represent the homeowners, Mark and Michelle Vandersall. Mr. Jacobson explained that the homeowner is very sensitive to the historic integrity of the home and have been diligent to ensure that the addition and attached garage compliment the home and neighborhood. Member Swenson -then moved approval of the -request -to demolish -the -detached garage subject to the plans presented. Member Kojetin seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. Ili. BAIRD HOUSE PLAN OF TREATMENT: Planner Repya presented the following draft Plan of Treatment for the Baird House, 4400 West 50th Street: 2 1. The Edina Heritage Landmark designation for the Baird House includes all of the extant structural elements of the house (including the 2002-2003 additions). The wood frame agricultural outbuilding historically associated with the Baird farm lacks individual significance but contributes to the significance of the house within its historic context. 2. The recommended treatment concept for the Baird House is rehabilitation, applying measures to sustain the existing form, integrity, and materials of the historic house. The distinguishing original qualities of the house, including its asymmetrical plan, brick walls, multi -gabled roof, bays and porches, must be preserved and protected. The most important architectural details to be preserved are its Eastlake Style -inspired decorative elements, especially the square tower, prominent chimneys and stone trim. 3. Every reasonable effort should be made to preserve the historic agricultural outbuilding. The building should be maintained in the state of utility through repairs or minor alterations, which make possible an efficient contemporary use while preserving those features which are important to its historical land architectural values. Deteriorated architectural features should be repaired rather than replaced, and if replacement of missing features is necessary, the new work should be based on accurate duplications of original features, substantiated by historical or pictorial evidence. If the decision is made to remove the structure, it should b recorded (through the use of photographs, drawings and written information) prior to demolition so that a body of information will be preserved with the HPB. Ms. Repya added that Brad and Arlene Forrest have had an opportunity to review the draft plan and were present to discuss said plan with the Board. Arlene Forrest thanked the Board for affording them the opportunity to discuss the plan of treatment. She indicated that her only concern is relative to the treatment of the outbuilding on the property. Arlene explained that they have had the structure inspected by an historic barn expert who felt that the barn had — - suffered too many years of negTecf and was in such a- state of d srefsair; ttrat e— - costs required to bring it up to code would be prohibitive. He had surmised that the building was actually several small outbuildings, which over the years had been connected. Mrs. Forrest indicated that she would love to save the outbuilding, but fears it is too far -gone. Of particular concern is the possibility of youngsters gaining access to the building and getting hurt. She then expressed a willingness to replace the structure with a similar footprint, preserving as many original 3 I. OUTREACH INFORMATION: Planner Repya explained that she and Consultant Vogel had been discussing ways in which the Board could inform the public about the new Heritage Landmark Program. Since the Country Club District was designated a Landmark District there has been an article in the "About Town" magazine as well as in the Edina Sun Current newspaper. Ms. Repya asked the Board if they felt one last mailing to each of the 550 residents in the district explaining the landmark designation would be a good idea. Board members discussed the possibility of creating a piece similar to the information brochure the Board sponsored in the 1990's (*8'/Z" x 11", two-sided, tri -fold). The suggestions were made to again use the original 1924 artwork for the cover, and include real estate offices in the mailing. Planner Repya offered to meet with Jennifer Wilkinson, Communications Director for the City to draft an information piece, which the Board could review at their next meeting. The Board agreed that would be a good next step. No formal action was taken. II. 2003 MINNESOTA HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 18-19,2003, NEW ULM, MINNESOTA: Planner Repya announced that the 24"' Annual Minnesota Historic Preservation Conference will be held Thursday and Friday, September 18-19 in New Ulm, Minnesota. As a Certified Local Government city, Edina is required to send at least one member of the HPB and/or City Staff to the conference. Ms. Repya encouraged board members to consider attending the worthwhile workshop, even if for only one of the days. As in the past, the City will pay the registration fee for attendees. A brief discussion followed. No formal action was taken. VI. OTHER BUSINESS: None VII. NEXT MEETING DATE: July 8, 2003 VIII. ADJOURNMENT: 8:25 p.m. Respectfully submitted, 5 SPECIAL MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD THURSDAY, JUNE 19 2003, AT 3:30 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS: H-03-6 4501 Wooddale Avenue Owner: Keith White Architect: Richard Lundin II, 3 studios inc. Request: Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish house and build a new home on the site. MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD THURSDAY, JUNE 19, 2003, AT 3:300 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL MANAGER'S CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50'" STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chair, Don Wray, Bill Crawford, Peggy Jennings, Bob Kojetin, Herman Ratelle and Marie Thorpe MEMBERS ABSENT: Gary Nyberg STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Planning Consultant Keith White, 4501 Wooddale Avenue Richard Lundin, threestudiosinc. I. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS: H-03-6 4501 Wooddale Avenue Owner: Keith White Architect: Richard Lundin, threestudiosinc. Request: Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish house and build a new home on the site Planner Repya advised the Board that the subject property is located on the southeast corner of Wooddale Avenue and Sunnyside Road. The existing home, constructed in 1936 is a Norman style with English Tudor influence. On May 13, 2003 a Certificate of Appropriateness was granted for removal of a detached garage on the site. A 3 -stall attached garage was proposed to be incorporated with an addition to the rear of the home. The HPB did not -- review the-add+tion-to-tb"orne--bec-ause the -demolition -plan -did --not call for - removal of 50% or more of the surface area of the exterior walls. The subject request is to demolish the home and construct a new home on the site. This change in plan was precipitated by the discovery of extensive mold and structural deficiencies made apparent once the project was underway. When it was determined that the scope of demolition for the project would far exceed the plans presented, the contractor put a halt to the project and asked for the advice of the City's chief building official. Upon viewing the problems, Steve Kirchman, the building official determined that extensive additional work would be necessary to bring the home into code compliance. Planning Consultant, Robert Vogel has stated that the subject home, while an important component to the make-up of the Country Club District, would not qualify for individual landmark designation. That being the case, to demolish the home and rebuild on the site would not be inappropriate as long as the new construction meets the criteria set out in the Country Club District Plan of Treatment and Design Guidelines. Planner Repya explained that the architectural plans under consideration have changed very little from the original plans which included only partial demolition of the home. The architect has emphasized the Norman architectural style in the design. The scope of the proposed home varies little from the original structure. The highest point of the roof complies with the City's zoning code, however will be six inches higher than existing structure to necessitate the deeper dimensions of modern framing materials and to add a small amount of height to the first floor elevation. The proposed home matches the eave line of the adjacent home to the south, however appears to be three feet taller at the highest point, compared to the existing structure which is 2.5 feet taller than the adjacent home. The exterior finishes proposed for the home are stucco and cultured stone. The roofing material is proposed to be concrete tile, which gives a slate look. The plans also represent copper flashings, gutters, downspouts and roofing accents. Planner Repya concluded that the information provided supporting the subject request meets the requirements of the Country Club District Plan of Treatment. Staff recommends approval of the request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish the home at 4501 Wooddale Avenue and construct a new home on the site subject to the plans presented, and subject to approval of the revised plan by the Building, Planning and Engineering Departments. Consultant Vogel, addressing the subject request explained that when the City Council approved- the-Plan—of -Treatment for the -Landmark designation of --- the Country Club District their intent was not to prohibit the demolition of homes nor to empower the Heritage Preservation Board to design the new construction. The Council recognized that demolition may be necessary over time, and the new construction should meet the criteria of the Plan of Treatment. However, the Council also observed that the new construction should not be the recreation of a missing historic building, nor a copy of another building. 2 The subject proposal is a prime example of what was envisioned when the Plan of Treatment was created. The proposed home is not a copy of an historic house. The architect has incorporated historic elements from other homes in the area to create a design that will not be mistaken for a 1920's house, however the home will possess a great deal of historic integrity and blend well with the neighborhood, upholding the original character. Mr. Vogel concluded by noting that the proposed plan is consistent with the Plan of Treatment regulations, reflects the intent of the Council and is actually right -on with what the Board would hope to see for new construction in the District. Member Wray asked when the mold and structural deficiencies were first identified. Architect, Richard Lundin stated that the inspection of the home done at the time of purchase identified some of the deficiencies which the homeowner was willing to address in the remodeling process. However, it was not until the project was underway that the extent of the problems became apparent — clearly 40% of the home which was proposed to remain was affected by the deficiencies. Responding to a question regarding whether the foundation would remain, Mr. Lundin explained that due to the extent of mold, a new foundation will be poured, however the footprint will remain the same with the exception of the addition that was proposed on the original plan. Member Thorpe asked if the driveway was still proposed for the south side of the property. Mr. Keith White, the property owner explained that since the HPB last met, he had an opportunity to talk with the southerly neighbor who is all in favor of the driveways abutting. In fact, he is looking forward to being able to use a portion of Mr. White's driveway for turnaround space. Responding to a question regarding the swimming pool, Mr. Lundin explained that the pool will remain, however it will be upgraded with a new surface. Following a brief discussion, Member Crawford moved approval of the request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish the existing home at 4501-Wooddale Avenue and construct a- new home on the sle subject -to the plans presented and the condition that the plan meets final approval by the Building, Planning and Engineering Departments. Member Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. Prior to adjournment, Consultant Vogel discussed the trend he observed with the most recent requests for demolishing homes because of mold. Usually, older homes do not have the mold problems one finds in newer, airtight structures. Board members questioned whether the mold issue has become a trendy buzzword, and an easy excuse for demolition. 3 Member Jennings thought it curious that both homes with mold problems also have swimming pools. She also wondered how other historic districts might deal with the mold issue. Mr. Vogel indicated that he would like to meet with the chief building official to get his opinion on the mold issue and to discover how the new building codes address mold. No formal action was taken. II. ADJOURNMENT: 4:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, des t. 12 AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, JULY 8, 7:30 PM*, " EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50TH STREET HERITAGE BOARD MEMBERS: Chair, Garold Nyberg, William Crawford, Peggy Jennings, Bob Kojetin, Herman Ratelle, Ann Swenson, Marie Thorpe and Donald Wray I. NEW BUSINESS: H-03-7 Certificate of Appropriateness Dave Liiak and Stephanie Allison 4910 Arden Avenue, Edina, MN Request: Demolition of existing garage to include Construction of new garage II. ADJOURNMENT: *Please note the meeting time has been changed from 7:00 PM to 7:30. 1 hope this change affords every member the opportunity to attend the Braemar Inspection Tour MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, July 8, 2003, AT 7:30 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50'" STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: William Crawford, Bob Kojetin, Herman Ratelle, Ann Swenson and Marie Thorpe MEMBERS ABSENT:, Peggy Jennings, Gary Nyberg and Don Wray STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Planning Consultant Vince Cockriel, Edina Park Superintendent I. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS H-03-7 4910 Arden Avenue — Demolish detached garage and construct a new detached garage Planner Repya explained that the subject property is located on the west side of the 4900 block of Arden Avenue. The home is an English Cottage style built in 1925. The footprint of the 780 square foot home has not been altered since first constructed. A detached garage sitting on the northwest corner of the lot serves the home. The homeowner is requesting a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to demolish the detached garage and construct a new detached garage on the southwest corner of the lot. The plan includes adding a large two-story addition to the rear of the home, which is not being reviewed by the Board as part of the Certificate of Appropriateness because not more than 50% of the existing home is being demolished to facilitate the addition. The drawings submitted with the COA application did not show the new garage in detail, however Mr. Mark Benzell, owner of Inside & Out Remodelers has indicated that the new garage would meet all applicable building and zoning codes and the exterior finish would match the stucco on the house. Ms. Repya pointed out that the Country Club District Plan of Treatment recognizes garages as a form of new construction requiring a Certificate of Appropriateness, but has no specific guidelines for the design of detached garages. According to the Secretary of the Interior's standards for the treatment of historic properties, new construction is an appropriate undertaking in an historic district when it is compatible in size, scale, materials, color and texture with other buildings in the neighborhood. Furthermore, detached garages are consistent with the historic pattern of residential development in the Country Club District. Planner Repya concluded that based on the drawings submitted with the application and the information provided by the contractor, staff finds that the proposed new garage should not detract from the historic character of the property and adjacent historic homes. Approval is recommended for the request to demolish the existing detached garage and replace it with the new detached garage as shown on the plans submitted. Neither the homeowner nor the contractor were in attendance to address the subject request. Member Swenson questioned why, since the addition is larger than 50%0 of the footprint of the home, the addition is not also subject to review by the Board. She also expressed concern that the plan reflects lot coverage that comes only 26 square feet short of maximizing the 30% lot coverage allowed. Consultant Vogel explained that when the City Council was reviewing the District's landmark designation, they determined that the plan of treatment would not address additions to homes, only demolitions and new construction. Member Ratelle asked to go on record expressing his disappointment that neither the homeowners nor their contractor were available at the meeting to address questions from the Board. Following a brief discussion by the Board, habacte of the homeer Swenson rase'�dt relates to concern that the large addition will alt the adjacent properties. She then asked Staff to review previous minutes of the Board when it was determined that additions would not be included in the plan of treatment; suggesting that the Board consider amending the plan of treatment to include evaluating additions to homes when the addition meets or exceeds 50% of the footprint of the home. Member Swenson then made a motion that the Board approve the request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the detached garage from the northwest corner of the property and build a new detached garage on the southwest corner of the property, subject to the plans presented and the condition that the materials of the garage match the home. Member Crawford seconded the motion. By roll call, the members voted as follows: Ayes: Members Crawford, Kojetin and Swenson Nays: Member Ratelle Abstain: Member Thorpe Motion carried. 2 11. CAHILL SCHOOL & GRANGE HALL: A. New Roof Soffit and Fascia — Planner Repya reminded the Board that at their November 2002 meeting they had been advised of the maintenance issues confronting both buildings. At that time, no action was taken, agreeing that they would address each issue when the contracts were being let. Vince Cockriel, Edina Park Superintendent, responsible for maintenance of the buildings was present to address Board. Vince explained that he was hoping to replace the roofs of both buildings this summer. He explained that both roofs are about 80 years old and suffer from substandard underlayment and rodent infestation. The bids received are for both asphalt and cedar shingles; the cedar application costing about $5,000 to $6,000 more than asphalt. Mr. Cockriel indicated that he would recommend the cedar shingles, although more expensive, would serve the buildings better and falls within the funds budgeted for the job. The contractor Vince recommended is Roof Specs. who has had considerable experience with historic buildings; the St. Paul Cathedral a recent reference. Addressing the soffit and fascia for both buildings, Mr. Cockriel explained that due to the extreme deterioration he would recommend wrapping them with steel siding, being careful to maintain the historic structural integrity of the buildings. Consultant Vogel asked if Mr. Cockriel had planned on adding gutters to the buildings. Vince indicated that he had not included that in the specification for bids. Mr. Vogel strongly suggested that the gutters be included in the job, pointing out that although gutters had not been invented when the buildings were first constructed, the benefit to their preservation makes the use of gutters and downspouts reasonable and in -keeping with preservation standards. Mr. Cockriel agreed that gutters and downspouts would not only relieve the water problems the basements of both buildings have been experiencing, but also extend the life of the structures. He suggested that the gutters be included in the bid to reside the buildings which will be addressed in several years. Board members agreed that would be appropriate. Addressing a question as to whether it would be appropriate to wrap the soffit and fascia with steel siding, Mr. Vogel explained that because the wrapping is reversible and does not undermine the structure, it would not be deemed inappropriate. In closing, Mr. Cockriel proposed the following time line for addressing improvements to the Cahill School and Grange Hall: Summer 2003 Replace Roof, Soffit and Fascia 2005 Replace Windows ($42,000 budgeted) 3 2006 New Siding & Gutters He then requested that the Board give him direction for addressing the roof, fascia and soffits of both buildings. Following a brief discussion, Member Kojetin moved to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace the roof of the Cahill School and Grange Hall as well as to wrap the soffit and fascia areas with steel siding. Member Swenson seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. Member Kojetin asked if the existing handicapped ramping on the exterior of the Cahill School and Grange Hall could be replaced, pointing out that he felt the ramping was detrimental to the historic integrity of the buildings. Consultant Vogel explained that the ramping could be removed, however other accommodations would need to be made to accommodate handicapped accessibility. A. PAINTING CAHILL SCHOOL: Park Superintendent Cockriel advised the Board that a painting contractor who is a resident of Edina has offered to paint the Cahill School this summer free of charge. The offer does not include the Grange Hall. Mr. Cockriel added that he thought it would be a good idea, however he advised the contractor that the building is scheduled to be resided in about 3 years. The contractor indicated that was fine with him. Member Kojetin remembered that the building was last painted about 12 years ago and could certainly use a new coat of paint. Consultant Vogel stated that he thought the offer was very generous, but asked if the contractor was aware of the prep work and applications that are required for historic structures. Mr. Cockriel explained that the contractor is aware that power washing and sandblasting are not permitted techniques. He further stated that he is confident that the contractor would do a quality job. Following a brief discussion, Member Ratelle moved to approve the generous offer of a contractor to paint the Cahill School. Member Crawford seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. III. NEXT MEETING DATE: August 12, 2003 IV. ADJOURNMENT: 8:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, r<1 &1-1 4 MEMORANDUM TO: Heritage Preservation Board FROM: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner SUBJECT: *August 12th HPB Meeting — Cancelled *MN Historic Preservation Conference — Sept. 18 —19, 2003 DATE: August 7, 2003 Next Tuesday's regularly scheduled HPB meeting has been CANCELLED. As you may recall, the City is responsible to send at least one member of the HPB to the annual preservation conference for at least one day. This is a requirement for all Certified Local Government cities. I will be attending on Friday, Sept. 19th. If you are interested in attending on Friday, the City will pay your $40.00 registration fee. Please let me know by Friday, September 5th so I can make the arrangements. I hope you are having a great summer. I look forward to seeing you at the September 9th meeting!! AGENDA REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: - June 10, 2003 Regular Meeting - June 19, 2003 Special Meeting - July 8, 2003 Regular Meeting II. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS — COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT A. H-03-08 4506 Bruce Avenue — Construct New Detached Garage in Rear Yard III. MORNINGSIDE SURVEY IV. 2003 MINNESOTA HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 18-19,2003 IN NEW ULM, MINNESOTA V. OTHER BUSINESS: VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: October 14, 2003 VII. ADJOURNMENT: MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, September 9, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM 4801 WEST 50T" STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: Bill Crawford, Peggy Jennings, Bob Kojetin, Ann Swenson, Marie Thorpe and Don Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: Gary Nyberg and Herman Ratelle STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: Robert Vogel, Preservation Planning Consultant John Clarey, Quigley Architects Rick & Maureen Massopust, 4506 Bruce Avenue I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Member Kojetin moved approval of the minutes from the June 10, June 19 and July 8, 2003, meetings. Member Crawford seconded the motions. All voted aye. The motions carried. II. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS: H-03-8 4506 Bruce Avenue Owners: Rick and Maureen Massopust Architect: John Clarey, Quigley Architects Request: Certificate of Appropriateness to convert an attached double garage to living space and build a new detached garage in the rear yard. Planner Repya advised the Board that the subject property is located on the west side of the 4500 block of Bruce Avenue. The existing home is a 1938 New England Colonial Revival. b �vewla,yl8 x 19' garage is attached to the running along the south property rear of the house accessedy a line. The subject request involves converting the existing attached garage to two - stories of living space and building a new garage in the northwest corner of the rear yard. The new detached garage is proposed to be a 2 -stall, 22' x 24' structure measuring 19' at the peak and 14.5' at the mid -point of the gable. The zoning code allows for a height not to exceed 18' when measured from the mid -point of the gable. The proposal shows the exterior materials to be lap siding, which is also shown on the second story of the proposed addition. The closest structure to the proposed garage is a detached garage to the west in the rear yard of 4507 Casco Avenue. This 22'x 24' garage was constructed in 1987 and replaced a somewhat smaller structure. The adjacent garage measures approximately 12.5' at the peak. In conclusion, Ms. Repya stated that Staff finds the information provided supporting the request to meet the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance and the Country Club Plan of Treatment. Furthermore, the proposed lap -sided, colonial style garage with a cupola and a weathervane complements the home, yet is not visible from the street. Staff recommends approval of the request to build a new detached garage subject to the plans presented. Member Swenson asked the architect, John Clarey why he chose the pitch of the roof to be quite a bit steeper than that of the garage to the west. Mr. Clarey explained that his design replicates the pitches already existing on the subject dwelling rather than that of the adjacent garage. Member Kojetin asked why a detached garage was proposed rather than continuing with an attached garage. Planner Repya explained that in order for the proponent to achieve additional living space, the detached garage was the only alternative; pointing out that a 25 foot rear yard would be required for an attached garage which could not be accommodated on the subject lot. Following a brief discussion, Member Crawford moved approval of the request to build a detached garage in the rear yard subject to the plans presented. Member Jennings seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. III. MORNINGSIDE SURVEY: Consultant Vogel explained that to complete the survey of the Morningside neighborhood, the Board should schedule a field survey whereby volunteers actually walk the streets to record data on each structure in the area. The best time of year for the field surveys is starting in late October into early December when the leaves are off the trees and the buildings are more visible, and the Weber Park warming house would be a perfect meeting place for such an event. Mr. Vogel pointed out that these field surveys can be excellent public service • events where the Board can share the historic importance and interest in a neighborhood with its residents. The survey exercise also provides an 2 excellent opportunity for HPB members to have a hands-on experience with the preservation process. Member Wray, who lives in Morningside, stated that his neighborhood recently had a picnic that was organized by the Morningside Women's Club. He suggested that they be contacted regarding their possible participation in the survey. Planner Repya asked Mr. Wray if he could provide her with the contact person for the club. He indicated he would be happy to. Member Swenson also suggested that the Edina Historical Society be invited to participate in the survey. Discussion ensued regarding the dates for the field survey. The following dates were decided upon: Wednesday November 5th 2:00 p.m. Sunday November 9th 1:00 P.M. Sunday November 16th 1:00 p.m. RAIN DATE It was suggested that the Edina Sun Current run an informational piece to explain the up -coming survey and invite the public to participate. Board members also suggested that participants make reservations to facilitate organizing the survey. Member Kojetin suggested that the after-hours Park and Recreation phone number be used in the event of a cancellation due to inclement weather. No further action was taken. IV. 2003 MINNESOTA HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 18 —19, 2003, NEW ULM, MN: Planner Repya advised the Board that she, Bob Kojetin and Ann Swenson were scheduled to attend the State Historic Preservation Conference on Friday, September 19th. She made an invitation to any members who had not signed -up to do so as soon as possible. Attending members would report on the conference at the October meeting of the Board. No formal action was taken. V. OTHER BUSINESS: A. Country Club Landmark Designation Brochure: Member Kojetin asked about the status of the information brochure being prepared for the residents of the Country Club District. Planner Repya explained that since the Board's last meeting, Jennifer Wilkinson, Communications Director for the City has been preparing the artwork and text for the brochure. Because Ms. Wilkinson was recently married, the brochure is not quite ready, however should be available for Board review at the October meeting. No further action was taken. 3 B. Letter to the Editor re: Tear -down of homes in the Country Club District: Member Kojetin pointed out to the Board that a letter to the Editor appeared in the Edina Sun Current in which the writer lamented on the trend of people purchasing homes in the historic Country Club District only to tear them down and rebuild a new structure on the site. The writer asked if there wasn't a committee to oversee such situations and commented that, "If you want a new house, buy someplace else." Discussion ensued regarding the best way to respond to the letter writer. Consultant Vogel recommended that it is not a good practice to respond in the paper to such Letters; suggesting that the letter writer receive a personal response. Planner Repya offered to respond to the concerned party, assuring them that while the HPB cannot prevent the teardowns, the City does have the ability to control the new structures to be built. Board members agreed that would be a good idea. No formal action was taken. VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: October 14, 2003 Planner Repya and Consultant Vogel observed that they had a conflict with the regularly scheduled meeting date for October 14th. Following a brief discussion, it was suggested that the meeting be rescheduled for October 7th Ms. Repya advised the Board that she would keep them posted if the change could be finalized. II. ADJOURNMENT: 8:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, C-C�- x . Joyce Repya [H • AGENDA RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY AT ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70TH STREET - UPSTAIRS I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: September 9, 2003 II. PLAN OF TREATMENT: A. Grimes House — 4200 West 44th Street B. Peterson House — 5312 Interlachen Boulevard III. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT LANDMARK DESIGNATION INFORMATION BROCHURE: IV. 2003 MINNESOTA HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 18-19,2003 IN NEW ULM, MINNESOTA: - Report from Participants V. OTHER BUSINESS: A. Schedule a Special Meeting of the HPB to hear a Certificate of Appropriateness request for 4405 Browndale Avenue. VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: November 11, 2003 — Veteran's Day City Hall Closed RESCHEDULE ON NOV. 12TH, WED. VII. ADJOURNMENT: I MINUTES OF THE RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY AT ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70TH STREET MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Gary Nyberg, Bill Crawford, Peggy Jennings, Bob Kojetin, Ann Swenson, Marie Thorpe and Don Wray MEMBERS ABSENT: Herman Ratelle STAFF PRESENT: Joyce Repya, Associate Planner OTHERS PRESENT: - Robert Vogel, Preservation Planning Consultant - Karen Ferrara, 4200 West 44th Street I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: Member Crawford moved approval of the minutes from the September 9, 2003, meeting. Member Kojetin seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. II. PLAN OF TREATMENT: A. Grimes House — 4200 W. 44th Street Planner Repya presented the Nominations Study and Plan of Treatment which consultant Robert Vogel had created for the Grimes House. In addition to identifying the significance of the historic home, the following plan of treatment was recommended: 1. The Edina Heritage Landmark designation for the Grimes House includes all of the extant structural elements of the house and grounds. 2. The recommended treatment concept for the Grimes House is rehabilitation, applying measures to sustain the existing form, integrity, and materials of the historic house. The distinguishing original qualities of the house must be preserved and protected. Minutes — October 7, 2003 Edina Heritage Preservation Board f Ms. Repya explained that the owners of the Grimes House, Bruce and Karen Ferrara had received a copy of the proposed plan of treatment for review. Karen Ferrara was present to express their opinion regarding the proposal. Mrs. Ferrara stated that she understood the purpose of the plan of treatment, but wondered if there shouldn't be something about maintaining the architectural style of the home when changes are undertaken. Consultant Vogel explained that in item #2, "applying measures to sustain the existing form, integrity, and materials of the historic house" addresses maintaining the architectural style. Board members discussed Mrs. Ferrara's concern and agreed that while item #2 does allude to the intent of maintaining the historic integrity of the structure, to include an item that specifically states that the gothic revival style of the home will be maintained when undertaking any external maintenance and improvements would be a good idea. Following a brief discussion, Member Kojetin moved approval of the Plan of Treatment for the Grimes House with the addition of an item #3 "The Gothic Revival style of the Grimes House shall be taken into consideration for all external maintenance and improvements." Member Thorpe seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. B. Peterson House — 5312 Interlachen Boulevard Planner Repya presented the Nomination Study and Plan of Treatment created for the Peterson House by Robert Vogel. The significant features of the plan of treatment included: 1. The Edina Heritage Landmark designation for the Peterson House includes all the extant structural elements of the house and grounds. 2. The recommended treatment concept for the Peterson House is rehabilitation, applying measures to sustain the existing form, integrity and materials of the historic house. The distinguishing original qualities of the house must be preserved and protected. Consultant Vogel observed that he found the original designation materials for the Peterson house from 1987 to be lacking in rationale for supporting the historic designation. He pointed out that it is an interesting home, but he found nothing in the city records to defend its significance. That being said, Mr. Vogel continued by explaining that he believes that the home is worthy of 2 Minutes — October 7, 2003 Edina Heritage Preservation Board landmark designation as one of the few remaining structures representing the original farming lifestyle of the City. Planner Repya stated that she sent a copy of the proposed plan of treatment to the owners of the Peterson House, Mark and Nancy Winter. Mr. Winter called Ms. Repya to ask some questions about the proposal, but expressed no concerns or suggestions. The Winters were invited to attend the meeting, however, it appears they had a scheduling conflict. Following a brief discussion, Member Swenson moved approval of the Plan of Treatment for the Peterson House as proposed. Member Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. III. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT LANDMARK DESIGNATION INFORMATION BROCHURE: Planner Repya presented a draft brochure that explains the landmark designation of the Country Club District. The brochure, created by the City's Communications Coordinator, Jennifer Bennerotte, was in draft form, awaiting the Board's input. Board members discussed the text and layout. Several changes were agreed to, upon which Ms. Repya promised to bring the final draft to them for review at the November meeting, targeting a mailing date of mid-November. No formal action was taken. IV. 2003 MINNESOTA HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 18 —19,2003, NEW ULM, MN: Planner Repya reported that Bob Kojetin, Ann Swenson, Marie Thorpe and she attended the State Historic Preservation Conference on Friday, September 19th in New Ulm, Minnesota. Each attendee explained what they felt was the highlight of the conference. All agreed that the session on mold was disappointing because they were hoping to glean important information to report back to the Board, however the presenter spoke with a thick accent and was difficult to understand. They all indicated that the tour of the Schell's Brewery was very interesting. The overall consensus was that the conference offered a great opportunity for Board members to get better acquainted and learn what other communities are doing to promote historic preservation. They suggested that in the future, all Board members should try to attend. 3 Minutes — October 7, 2003 Edina Heritage Preservation Board V. OTHER BUSINESS: None VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: November 12, 2003 Due to the regularly scheduled meeting falling on November 11tH, Veteran's Day, the meeting has been rescheduled to Wednesday, November 12'. II. ADJOURNMENT: 8:10 P.M. Respectfully submitted, eoyy ""Iev �.�ce epya 4 AGENDA RESCHEDULED MEETING OF THE EDINA HERITAGE PRESERVATION BOARD WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2003, AT 7:00 P.M. EDINA HISTORICAL SOCIETY AT ARNESON ACRES 4711 WEST 70TH STREET - UPSTAIRS I. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES: October 7, 2003 II. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS: H-03-09 4405 Browndale Avenue Demolish a 2 -Stall Detached Garage and Construct a 3- Stall Garage III. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT LANDMARK DESIGNATION INFORMATION BROCHURE: Review Revised Copy IV. MORNINGSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEY: Update V. OTHER BUSINESS: VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: December 9, 2003 VII. ADJOURNMENT: MEMORANDUM TO: Heritage Preservation Board FROM: Joyce Repya SUBJECT: December HPB Meeting DATE: December 5, 2003 A reminder to you that the regularly scheduled meeting of the HPB for December 9th has been canceled. The next meeting of the Board will be on Tuesday, January 13, 2004. Wishing you a wonderful and safe holiday season, and looking forward to a productive 2004!! demolish the 2 -stall garage in the rear yard and replace it with a 3 -stall garage and potting room is recommended, subject to the plans presented. Addressing a question as to whether the second story would be developed, Steve Alpeter, the property owner indicated that the second story would not be finished; it would be used for storage and would not be heated. Member Swenson asked whether the northerly neighbor had a chance to respond to the change to the north wall of the structure. Mr. Alpeter explained that the neighbor was advised of the new plan and wrote a letter to the Zoning Board expressing their approval. Following a brief discussion in which Board members praised the proposed plan, Member Kojetin moved approval of the Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish the 2 -stall detached garage and construct a 3 -stall detached garage in its place. Member Wray seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. III. COUNTRY CLUB DISTRICT LANDMARK DESIGNATION INFORMATION BROCHURE: Planner Repya reminded the Board that at their October meeting they had reviewed the draft copy of the brochure and suggested some changes be made to the text. The changes were made and the revised draft was before them for approval. She explained that if this draft was approved it would go directly to the printer and be available for mailing within a week or two. The cost for printing 1,000 copies will be $395.00, which will come out of the City's communications budget. Board members agreed with the changes made to the text. Member Swenson then moved approval of the brochure as revised. Member Ratelle seconded the motion. All voted aye. The motion carried. IV. MORNINGSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEY: Planner Repya explained that two walking tours of the Morningside neighborhood took place on Wednesday, November 5`h and Sunday, November 9th and both were very successful. A total of seven residents from the neighborhood (and one dog) participated in the tours along with Ms. Repya, Robert Vogel, and Board members Kojetin, Thorpe and Swenson. 3 The tour on November 5th focused on the eastern side of the neighborhood, with the Sunday tour targeting the west side. Consultant Vogel explained that his firm has been working on an inventory of the Morningside neighborhood for several months. The final report and recommendations will be presented to the Board at the January meeting. The three main areas the report will focus on are: 1. Whether to designate the Morningside neighborhood a landmark district. 2. Whether any individual properties would qualify for landmark designation; and 3. Whether there are any threatened resources in need of protecting. Board members discussed the rich history of the Morningside neighborhood and how unique it is compared to other areas of the City. All agreed that a landmark designation for this neighborhood should address the history - how Morningside was annexed from the Village of Edina for 40 years, and how the volunteer spirit in Edina had it's roots in the community of Morningside, evidenced by the still active Morningside Women's Club which organized in the 1930's. Member Jennings observed that in heritage preservation districts around the country, neighborhoods like the Country Club District that were totally planned and where a design review committee controlled construction were not the norm. Neighborhoods like Morningside that evolved lot by lot over a period of 100 years are the types of districts that most heritage preservation committees deal with. She then asked Mr. Vogel if there were any consistencies he has seen in regulation of these more typical districts? Mr. Vogel responded that for the most part the heritage preservation regulation of these more typical districts is not done well, primarily because it is very costly. While the Morningside neighborhood definitely possesses a unique history and character, one could say that about many neighborhoods in Edina — the difference being more a matter of the time -period. An important driving force for heritage preservation is budgetary - how much money is a City able to direct toward the preservation of its historic properties? V. OTHER BUSINESS A. Plans of Treatment for Cahill, Grange, Baird, Peterson and Grimes Houses: Planner Repya announced that on Tuesday, November 18th, the City Council will hear the proposed Plans of Treatment for all the landmark E properties which had been previously designated historic under the old code. No action was required from the Board. B. Fee to be imposed for Certificates of Appropriateness: Planner Repya explained that the Planning Staff is recommending a fee, similar to that required for a variance from the zoning code be imposed for requests for a Certificate of Appropriateness. She assured the Board that she would keep them informed on the outcome. VI. NEXT MEETING DATE: December 9, 2003 VII. ADJOURNMENT: 7:50 p.m. Respectfully subm' ed, c' lcl Joyce Repya 5 MEMORANDUM TO: Heritage Preservation Board FROM: Joyce Repya SUBJECT: December HPB Meeting DATE: December 5, 2003 A reminder to you that the regularly scheduled meeting of the HPB for December 91h has been canceled. The next meeting of the Board will be on Tuesday, January 13, 2004. Wishing you a wonderful and safe holiday season, and looking forward to a productive 2004!!