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4:-csmbe_ 11, 1.958 7:30 P.,m,
" Ambers present: Eabbert MI., chaii; 1.1, A, Cris ley., V-111liam Lewis
arse. K. T. Stevens
Aqpproval of IMnutes. Upon a motion by Levis alid second by Orinkley the
m-nutes of Park ;3o rd; meetinft-, of Nevember 17. 195
were
approved as
HiLghlands Parlk: A discussion tools, , ce 0 the latest revision of the
r2.a f . la e evisi
develornment pin for 1aghl-ands Park together with cost
estir"lates after presentation by Mr. Harrison. The plan,
Titl
di -i the exception of the tennis courts., calls for develop-
nrnt qn to the extent of the unexpezided'funds allocated to
this park. Cost estirmtes am. as follows:
T,!,ator mrain $7sC,00.00
1112 -ay squipl'!1ent I.,000.00
Dredging peat for topsoil 15000,00
.�'Iantinr.,s as shmm on
p 11a., i t 4ar.,g, plan 30ob.00
Gyz-&v,,rzj1 road and. parkiiC,
ai"M' 5.5,00100
Fill on cross hatched area
mid arsE..s
Grading cross had6ched area h..,CCP0.00
Seeding cross 1 -matched area 7CO.00
Paths and E_;YVbbJ.rZ from
Slwline to c1rdildreals
Play arep..' 500,00
F, r or lm"erlachenz circle to
childran Is playc;rouyid 400, (' '0
Dria
I Idn' fountain 100,00
Contingencies 400,00
!'211900.00
Engineering and'. planrZing 2 hCO.00
Mere is a ba2znce of 24.300
.!. ': ' P, .00 in the Highlands Park
improxremu nt allocation.,
Mr, Dmwxis raovedl, tkmat t1he Tplan together 17ith planting plan be
-so 'U10 Council far the—Ir appz-crrall subject to the holding of
sr"mall group ost'ings to t -C"
.,et neighbo.,hood roaction to the plan,, 14Lr. Stevens
seconded It'I'm miotion, T`('; Uri a-airmu sly,
The plam a,[,,rt ed. upon to, indorm the neig-kfooehood was that
PI.r� French TAII contam'_-• and ur, group mmstinge of Inidim, interested
z'_1
-people, These mectings will. be of loured by a general public meeting to be
held, by the, "U,j n I'm b
continued-
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r-card agreed t'-nv,:'U- 511AU zrould bG rao&tU helpful_ to have- the Board
to 1., ,TIiiisa id he w v.) speak
iz, t',ne rayor the possiUlity of getting an early
lamment .-
mr. Crirl;:ley read
i na n C i 1 Ha�'S Faonm. Dave
a c o -p, 0, a .0?.e'.Tq ;hich
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ae d -ittan to 1-layor Pvc.desen in i
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i,-. C, Ifjje.re,,�)y f,,,,rez could be vaised to f imnee
an il.cz is desor
at least in pax'61 he development Of I goV course on Hays Farm,
A-,Ithou h a cq:5,,y of t1iis lettor is attzach6d.' the idea in a nut-
imter
.holL is o-.*u:-.,.T)J,.y to sel! of a strip- of land or; the per
-� I I d �cveIO2 c s v ds
rm-nt Ind u e the f n
-16'nus at:�q�aixzd for ps:eIt 11, rwiremelits. Full discassimi of
,Mi s id �J ' se en D-ze J-
,ec,, -,jels -'-0 m. suo qu. t ting.
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bDr:; - t wmas proposed by ? - A ell t t
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a mmbeer-J-mL. sym!-ii be demised and given to all projects A
c c n a e rad 1 x- U -J") se V a
y tho Pael� DC-2rd. P r 0 ould be to id
KI ter I nf orm.� on the var3ring status of
moy�bers in kcsp- 6 bet
v Baur i t ca
befo-, t -hem ng he. y - r.
ty- th Colir -d such a
Dv'wds statocl that Ine 1' -i ne mssion use
ed
sysIva and. i-irmrald teat a sin ilar syst-Aerl be -np e� lo,)r by the
'tev-ens Seconded tie ro-o-1
tion. It passed
Th-- vicawi-o,,,: aejournzed, alu- 9:45 pm .
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P-espectful-ly submitteds
Clift^on F. French
Fecretary
la . A, G. 'gredosen, Jr.,
4815 Mzp? a Road ,g
0dina, T. nesota Y'
Dear .a rt : tj i3ev e rpt of Hays Fa
The follmrIng; is the gena of an idea for the development Of this
h1h acres, of uric property. If it atarical,s you, I suggest you page it along
tc+,bers of the Village Cout�ci l a.nd get heir reach to ito
thinking i� r i lv this. r,'osgettin for the ma�rmt .the cost.' of
_ ust
eu -op`� certain areas for skiers, for tOMIJ.e, skatfng# baseball, 000etcj
to build ars 18�-mole Colt 00=8€� and clubhouse u -M 0ist $5
is
r at i.s 4-1 0;:n rougix estirntc and it is also a figure, estidaneted by Char
Z
or, -ItMie 1.1,nneapolis Farr Board. 1.c, do not have anything like that
d velgpyml'c, puxposes,, nor arse we likely to have it for many Y'OG"
cue.; a So v -a evs we do so)-zatixing about it aLA5 we are not going to got
benefit of t1dz vonderful ;piece of park property for a long,
long tin*- I
think tf ore 1-1 4: way to rnise cnouC.h cash to get this development under
and do it, In, such a m=or that it will nOt - all On the residents of Bdina in
ti -,e fore of increased exec. Kor ui3l it jecArdive� to any great extents our
objective to create and PAir_&,ain a sizable Pari for use of Eana residents.
I suggest ve corsi der selling a strip of 3wA 200 feet wi des aloes
the north pndCrest sixes of this propertr and possiblg some along the south
and r-a.st sides, if not too letf, and have it di.v ded into 100 or mole lotas
each of which, I sucgest be 325 feet wide by 200 feet long- Your guess is as
goad as mine as to what Tie should get out 6f mese large lots. Certai n37 we
should .net a fancy price for° them..* even after allming for selling expenses
cast of platui.ne, building roadsp etc,, and leave a reasonable margin of
profit for the primer of this projeet,
To sell off say IM lots of this size vJU absorb about. 60 aeares»
For sake of arguments ho aver, and anwixC for roafts let as say it takes
100 acres, Even so, ire still have, practicsl2,v a half section of land (320 acmes)
left for park purposes m-4 in, rq book$ I consider that to be a mdghtV big
paft
for a village as large as „Aim. I ixuld point out that after the sale of these
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Selling pis No j:y oil theso lots should be very Strong-
that
trong- t the developer ref' thn propcxty vouUl be qai.ck to point out how much better
they are than lots or, t!oc+ddaie twenue from 5OUi to 54th Streets ung the east
side of the Wina Country r2ub and cv bettor than the lots an Golf Tsrraca
alonpthe south side of the r4urs ° Club property, since they Mould have this
large tract of beautiful. open X=d adjoining their beck ya,rdsi, with all the
advant&ges of park aetivitfe� -- 0201fa, temiss ding, horseback riding, etc.,
nri,thin t lk distance of thell r property, All such activities wow be far
+enough remover, from these 1,Otw erg ,at ill no She of the word would they be
objeetiormble to residents air: the area:,
bl! � , gg - - ? t trc = i ld a d ub ease i n such a Amy
so that Li addition to ilcr. go'nc rral -use by '?,d -inn reside s, it would, be aaailable
for the fi"di:.r,z J. C. I$ "Or x?r :etMngs, dtncOsa tri �;ir.�; c7�" the �3vC,, �e, with
IhI%, A, C* Bredeven, Jr*
December 1., 1958
Pago 2
such a Club House in the offing, we might induce that organization to under-
take the responsibility of raising part of the cash to build it through the
sale of memberships at say t100#00 each that would entitle the holders to
free use of the golf course and Club House for UM or three years.4 after it
Is opened to the public. in view of the waiting lists for memberships in the
Mina and IntGrIachen rsounti*r W.ubss it vould not surprise me if several hundred
of such rw2xrships could be sold on they basis, rjU sale of these memberships
could well be offered to residents of Bloomington., --Hopkins and Richfield since
they would all expire uithin ix;o or three years, -
I realize, of course, tM. t rant problems will arise on a developmeat
of this kmid. BhildinC mstrictions,, not only on property we sell but a3j3o on
propert.v,r across the road f ror.,i ours., would be one such problem, nL*n I notice
bhe "1'ays Farm is in the Eden Prairie School District and that might create
anothor problan. Cortairlv we woe lA all like to see the tams on these res-
Mances inure 100% to the beanefit of the Village of Mina instead of part of
limn going to 77den Frairie, There D. be many., naW more problems, But for
tdiat it i1AV bo woebh., I pass these thoughts along to you.
Perhaps I am too optimistic. Revertheless., I foel that through
the sale of lots around the outer edge of this property and through sale of
advance, mmberships as outlined abovej, we, could conceivably raiae from M*000*00
to )500.,000,00 and this would give us enougY, cash to quick3y get the develqpwnt
of the Tgayss Farm under way. H%Y does it stri1ce, you?
00-4,"arren Rydc_, Village Hall, Edina
r
uibbert m Mill; L512 Wwddalle Lvenue., Mina
• & A.i1ri*
4815
84in>ac - i3nsa
Doir Ar. #fix
The following is the sorm of on 1404 for the develop".,
merit of tiii s 414 acrox of taerk property # It it aeppea 14 tO You*.
I OqMest you passe it aim to tubers of the villav i0ou"ail
and get their raeac t ion to It.
my thinker is stw� ser phis, Forgetting for the nt,
the vast of t�eF'a 100IAS cortaju areas for a iorej for ttnftis.s
skating,, baes+eba ll -0 eto.O just to. Wild alter 18 -hole golf cour$ t
d clubhouse will c0et ecu 4500--000,00. t is �
ae
wn
rou h Ostipw # and it is also ae fide ostlaat*6 by ar1t*
oll of the XJM# epoli* raerk 10oard, We do not have aWthing
like that amount of lonay for dae aelopm+en purpoeeep ner ai r* was
likely tai h vo it for many years to **A*,, So mless we do Aovw .
thing about itwe are net, gam be got ba eftt at of
this w€�ndort-u . eae of Park property for aha longs IONS t1w,
think there to a war to raise "Ough cash to Set this e"14PeWAt
under way and 4e it in such a agnnor that it will not tAll On the
restdonts of tKina in V24 form of increased tax**. Nair will It
jecpaerdiz% c WW groat exton , our ObjOetiv* be create OW swin-
ba5ain as s izabb tark for use of Edina r*$IdOnts ..
suggeot we consider 801,11AS ae strip of land 200 fo*t
wide, along the north a west addle$ of this pra�►pert� and possibly
som along the south and east *id**,* if hat to* low, and haev * it
divided * 100 ear more lots'k each Of whiOh I sulgost, be 125, foot
Wider by 200 feet 104gt Your sues* is as good aaino. an to what
we should got out or these Barge lots. CortaInly we should net a
fanoy price for them# oven after allowing for welting wV14noo,
cost of platting, building roads# otc r o and leave a, reasomw10
margin sof profit for the prgwotor of this project*
To sell off say 100 tats Of thi$ seize will absorb AVOU
60 acres. #or cake -of argumeatp however., and allowing for rleaeda,
lot us say= it takes 100 acres. Even so, we stili have praeetic4ly
a half aeatIon of land (320 mares) left for park purposes and IS
qr,book,* i o*nsidor that to be a mighty big park for a Viiiaege as
large as Jdna . I would d paint out thater the sets a�f the ;es
Selling psychology on thee* lots should be very stress
X predict that, the developer of the property would be quick to
paint out haw much better tthoy are than lots on Wooddale Avenue
from 50th to 54th Streets along the east side of the Sdinae Country
Mr- A. 00 Br+ desen,4 r*
Dooember is 1958
Page
Club and even beer thanthe jots on Oalf Terrace along the
south wide of the Country +flub proper�ysr since they would
have 'this large tract of beautiful Open land ad joining 'their
back yards, with all the 0AVsental s sof park, activities --
golf, tsnnls sk�.�. horseebaek riding# ets*, 4 within•w*u-
die distance °their p t pertyr All sueh Ctivitises would be
for enact removed frrae these Utse So that in no "As* * " the
wed would they be objectionable, to residents s in tbe oreit.
It would-be mW . s est ion thaett: we bui.,ld, .e Club tee+
in suOh ;s mosey exo that, in a4ditioA to its general use by" X41na
rese dents ,p -it would be availsbio fes* th* _ $ J4 . $ forDet_
ire, tees:;, , g n th+e .* '�'se�„ with sut:eh srtj,!
ousecs in th's OfflOss we .fight. induct ' ha't, origanisaRt�c�n . tUb
eler..
toe the renity, of ris'il�f txs s":h � build t�
tiu*ough thee sse of memberships at .ssr s i 4,100.;00 eseeh that would
ehtitle the holders 'to free use of the gold' course and03-iib
gause for two or three years; after Is open - o t itublic .
view of the waiting, list* for. monberthios in the UUM
terlach n try lubse,, it would not seuxTrIsee me seevser&
hundred of such mmberships could be an thea blftsiso The
seals of thess# =#BfDer>��►i�se cca�a�.d r�ell a efi'srsed to rMesidepn set
Of B:Loo ingtLoa;, Hopkins and )t�hfie�d since they would all
expire within two or ` three ye. s.
I realize, of aourss„ tilat w� problem will will arise mn
a develop it of this kind. Building, rets rictions,o not Only►' on
proper y w>e eat but also Aid ..prtap+sr across the road from,cure,
wotild be one s�u.ah problem* Thou I naticse th* ayS Pam I in the
, ctsxdth;mit prQb�ai t iri School Dist -0 �sr
lem ' rtaInl'-
we would aid: like to Seep the9 taxes on meso rOS-
idensese innre 1 pdto the. bone,f It of the 1114 0 of Ui .i,nstaead
of part of them gains' to Iden trairle, "here will b# van
more problems. But for what it MY be werthj I plass terse tjxorxg,hts
along to you.
perhaps I am too *ptimiBtie* Moverthelesse,# I feel that
through the solo of lots around the outer edge of this property
and through sale of advanste memberships as Outlined sbaysee* we
o could' conceivably raise from$3001#000-00 to'$500,000,00 and tris
would give us *n ugh cash to quickly get the devolopmextt Of the
Hays Farm tandem wey- How does it strike youl
Yours truly,
MAC I HT
CC -Warren Hyder Vi.11ago alit Bdina .
Hibbert X. Kill, 4512 iA€ooddaq;.le Avenues Edina.