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MINUTES OF THE
Edina Transportation Commission
Thursday, January 20, 2011
Edina City Hall
4801 West 50th Street
Council Chambers
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Tom Bonneville, Sarah Engbretson, Jennifer Janovy, Paul Nelson, Geof Workinger, Elin
Schold Davis
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Jean White, Michael Schroeder, Bohde Scheerer
STAFF PRESENT:
Jack Sullivan, Sharon Allison
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by chair Janovy. Chair Janovy welcomed one of three new
members, Elin Davis, to the commission.
II. Approval of Minutes
a. Regular Meeting of November 18, 2010
Approval was postponed until the next meeting for lack of quorum.
III. Consent Agenda
a. Traffic Safety Report for December 1, 2010
The Traffic Safety Report for December 1, 2010, was accepted without comments.
IV. Community Comment
Mr. Jim Welna, 5139 W. 44th Street, asked if this was the only time to comment on the freight
train presentation and he was told yes. He expressed his appreciation for the presentation and
said this is first time that Edina has talked about it as a community and that there should be
considerable concern as discussions take place, similar to St. Louis Park.
Chair Janovy said viewers can send comments to edinamail@cityofedina.com or regular mail
to City Hall and that Council meetings also have a comment period.
V. New Business
a. MnDOT Rail Presentation – Dave Christianson, MnDOT
Assistant City Engineer Sullivan introduced Dave Christianson from MnDOT. He said Mr.
Christianson has been involved in train transit for the last 25 years and most recently in charge
of the freight rail division, working on state rail plan, investment policies, local freight rail
planning, and truck support services and parking. Mr. Sullivan said the reason for the
presentation was to help residents understand what is happening in St. Louis Park, how it may
or may not affect their community, and to explain what is happening regionally and nationally
with freight and passenger rail.
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Mr. Christianson said there are approximately 4,500 miles of tracks in the state (down from
9,000 in 1980 when the railroad was deregulated) with 500 miles in the metro area. 95% of the
railroad is privately-owned by 4 major companies (Canadian National, Canadian Pacific, Union
Pacific, and Burlington Northern Sante Fe) and operation is much more efficient and profitable.
He said 230 million tons of freight is moved annually which represents 38% of all freight moved
in the state in comparison to 12% nationally. Commodities moved most often by freight are iron
ore, lumber, paper products, and corn.
Mr. Christianson said future trends include annual growth of 1-2% and high speed intercity rail
which is a new national and regional federal initiative that will grow around the country,
including the twin cities. He said there are lines already in place traveling at 90 mph, and within
six years, there could be a line from Chicago to the Twin Cities traveling at 110 mph.
Mr. Christianson said the MN State Rail Plan, a first of its kind for the state, which was adopted
in 2010 and approved by the federal government, looks at passenger and freight rail as a
public venture which simply means there is a consistent plan to keep them both in balance and
growing. He showed a map of the passenger rail system in the MN Rail Plan. The map showed
a connection to Chicago, with possible diversion to Madison, and on to LaCrosse, to Wisconsin
Dells, with an alternate route through Eau Claire and on to Rochester. Other links on the map
includes Duluth and Superior, Fargo-Moorhead, Mankato, and Rochester. In the metro area,
he said the hubs would be the Northstar Station next to Target Field and St. Paul Union
Station. He said there were many participants at past public meetings which demonstrate that
there is lots of interest.
As it relates to Edina, Mr. Christianson explained that the rail coming southwest out of
Minneapolis towards Lake Calhoun, Lake of the Isle, St. Louis Park and Hopkins, is referred to
as the Kenilworth Corridor and this is the approved route for the Southwest LRT. He said if
Kenilworth is approved, freight would not be able to use this line because there is inadequate
right-of-way (ROW) and the original plan was to keep the bike path and have both freight and
passenger rail. He said the line is important to the western district and because federal law
requires freight line to have access to other connections, alternative routes are being
examined. He said one route is the Dan Patch line (owned by Canadian Pacific) that goes
through north Minneapolis, as an option to carry freight that would be removed from the
southwest line. He said Hennepin County made a pre-emptive assumption that the freight line
would be moved to the Canadian Pacific (Dan Patch) line and residents in St. Louis Park
reacted. A third option is rebuilding tracks along TH-169. He said construction is tentatively
scheduled for 2016 for the Southwest LRT; however, a final decision has not been made.
Mr. Christianson said freight traffic in Edina could increase and a passenger rail on the Dan
Patch line could see four trains a day each direction traveling at 60-65 mph. He said an
increase in freight could happen at any moment but the passenger line would involve a public
process and this could be over the next six years. He said the Dan Patch line does not have
consistent ROW because it was purchased after the cities were already platted and this is a
problem especially in Edina, where additional ROW may be needed for construction of
upgrades.
He stated further that if the decision is made to use Dan Patch, there would be a lot of changes
in St. Louis Park. He said students are currently crossing the train track to get to the high
school so this would require a pedestrian bridge, and there would be bike trail, pedestrian
gates, barriers to keep everyone safe, and the ROW would be fenced to prevent derailment.
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However, by installing these safety measures, he said the opportunity would exist for the line
to carry more freight.
Of the three options being considered, Mr. Christianson said Kenilworth would be the most
expensive because properties would need to be purchased for ROW.
Discussion
Mr. Christianson was asked what rights does Edina and St. Louis Park has to discuss what is
done on freight line. He said very little. He said there are certain things that are required to do
such as not blocking crossings for any longer than 10 minutes and making sure gate crossing
and signals are always in working condition. He said residents can call the police for these
violations. He said there has been a rise in complaints about parked freight cars with ethanol
but this is legal. He said the only thing they can do is talk with the freight companies and ask
them to be more customer-friendly. He noted that the line being discussed for the St. Louis
Park area is a little different because public money is helping to fund the project and this
requires the public involvement.
Clarifying the current maximum speed on Dan Patch of 10 mph and ROW as wide as 150 ft.
and as narrow as 60 ft. in some areas, Mr. Christianson said the ROW would not allow for a
dual line. He was asked if there was any chance of making this a passenger line and he said
yes, but by state law they cannot study it as a commuter rail. He said it would have to be
intercity rail which is different than commuter rail because it travels at higher speeds, stops are
usually 15-50 miles apart and is intended to get people from one point to the next as fast as
possible; commuter on the other hand mean trips to work and stops are spaced about 5 miles
apart like the Northstar.
More information is available on the state’s website or by contacting St. Louis Park to see
everything that has been discussed to date. The next meeting is scheduled for mid-February to
discuss mitigation measures and the process will continue for another 3-4 months then it goes
to the Hennepin County Board.
VI. Planning Commission Update (Commissioner Schroeder)
Commissioner Schroeder was absent and chair Janovy announced that his term has ended as
the representative from the Planning Commission.
VII. Bike Edina Task Force Update (Commissioner Janovy)
a. November 11, 2010 Meeting Minutes
Chair Janovy said they met in January and provided feedback on landscape islands in the Golf
Terrace Street Reconstruction project.
VIII. Commission Comments
Chair Janovy announced that Commissioner Workinger’s term has ended and thanked him for
his contribution and leadership. Her sentiments were echoed by all of the commissioners.
Commissioner Workinger said it was a pleasure serving. Chair Janovy also announced that
Josh Sprague would no longer be serving as a commissioner as he was elected to the City
Council.
IX. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned.