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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1959_WATER DEPT CORRESPONDENCEVillage of Edina 4801 WEST FIFTIETH STREET • EDINA 24, MINNESOTA m CERTIFIED CHECKS FILED 1,JITH BIDS ON "SUPERVISORY CONTROL SYSTEiM OF ! "1ATER'i10RKS" - OCT. 26, 1959 PERKINS ELECTRIC CO. - X600.00 DAVE GILBERTSON CO. - $576.00 OF P. ASUI V], t�fj+J) V, Fdl-nz 2A.; iti nn,. December 23, 1959 Perkins Electric Co. 4004-4th Ave. So. Minneapplis , Minn.' 'p are -returning e:,-,, r. t h t i f 1 C5 2829 600.00 -Und t. -,Ith tcg-I?ier wilb your !-jtj of October 26, 1959 on Supervisory Control System of Waterworks Thank. vou for your bid•- YCII.-S very VIP 59�t U��trk "LULL-t-LiF OF EW.,A 4�,Oj 17, 531,11 st., Fd"nz 24, Minn. December 3, 1959 Dave Gilbertson Co. 850 Cromwell Ave. St. Paul ,,,Minn. Gen tlomc-n: t,,io a.re returning )1,5qc:,vj-JAh vcu:i 2072 -576.00 With �,nur 'Yd (,4' OCTOBER 26o ..1._9.5. 9 . on WATERWORKS SUPEMSORY CONTROL SYSTEM Thank ►ot, fo-r vesy tnipi� I �Ipez FLUSHING RECORD FOR DECEMBER ADDRESS COMPLAINT 4915 Arden Avenue Brown 7111 Heatherton Brown _ 4817 Larkspur Lane Brown 6344 Mildred Avenue Orange 5I0O Oxford Odor 6117 Parnell Brown - Odor 5020 Richmond Drive Rust 55 Woodland Circle Gray and rusty 4301 W. 66th St. Brown ADDRESS CONDITION OF WATER Abbott Ave. at 62nd (12/4/59). - Brown Abbott Ave. at 62nd (12/17/59) Brown Arden at Sunnyside (12/2/59) Brown Arden at Sunnyside (12/16/59) Brown Arden at-52nd St. (12/3/59 Light brown Arden at 52nd St. (12/16/59) -Brown -Beard at'55th - Brown Beard at 56th Dirty yellow Beard at 62nd St. (12 -4 -59) Dirty and Gray Beard at 62nd St. (12/4/59) Light brown Benton & Crescent Brown & black -. Brittany at, 66th St. brown- Bruce and Sunnyside Brown Casco and Sunnyside Ave. (12 -2 -59) Brown Casco and Sunnyside Ave. (12/16/59) - Brown Chapel Drive, Brown . Cornelia Circle and 66th Broom and black 5505 Dever Drive Brown i _ -FLUSHING RECORD FOR DECEMBER (Cont.) ADDRESS CONDITION OF WATER, Drexel Ave. at Sunnyside Brown Edgebrook Place (12/2/59) - Brown Edgebrook Place (12/16/59)_ Brown Ewing at 62nd St. Brown 5101 Gorgas Ave. Brown Halifax at 54th Are. "Brown Halifax at 6219 Brown Highway 100 & City Limits Light, Brown Lantana. at 4804 Brown Limerick at 67th-(if/11159)_ Brown Limerick at 67th (12/23/59) Brown Meadow Road at 48th Brown Normandale Court (12/10/59) Brown,., Normandale.Court,(12 /18/59( Gray Sherwood at 62nd Brown ' Sherwood at 63rd ` Brown Sky Line Drive (end) (11 /24/59) Sky Line Drive (end) (12/14/59) Brown - odor Sunnyside & Highway 100 Brown . Townes Circle Brown Upper Terrace at 66th :. Filthy - all colors West Shore' & 66th All colors , West- Shore at 73rd Brown White Oaks Brown Woodcrest at 56th 'Brown York at. 62nd Brown Zenith at 55th (12/21/59) Bio Zenith at 62nd (12- 4 -59)" Brown Zenith at 55th (1.2/4/59) Dirty yellow FLUSHING RECCRD . F CR DECEMBER (Cont Water Complaints From 11 -1 -59 through 11 -15 -59 ADDRESS COMPLAINT 6101 Ashcroft Brown water, odor, taste 5509 Dever Drive Rusty water 5509 Dever Drive Rusty water and taste 4420 Dunham Drive Brown water 4433 Dunham Drive Black water 4503 Drexel Avenue Rusty water 4905 Lantana Lane Rusty water and odor 6800 Limerick Lane. Odor 5609 McGuire Road Rusty water 5609 McGuire Road Rusty water 4804 Roycar- Brown water - '6636 Southcrest'Drive Rusty water, 5500 woodcrest Brown water, odor and taste 7037 Wooddale Avenue Red and brown water also rust 5620 York�Avenue Brown and rusty water 6037 Zenith Avenue Brown water 5232 West 70th Street, Brown -water and odor GENERAL FLUSHINGS Arden and Sunnyside Brown water Bruce. and Sunnyside Brown water Edgebrook Place _ Brown water Sunnyside amd 100 Broom water .Townes Circle. Brown and gold water White Oaks Brown and`gr4y water, odor .54th and Oaklawn Red .water /^ r i BANISTER ENGINEERING CO. CONSULTING ENGINEERS 910 NORTH SNELLING AVENUE ST. PAUL 4, MINN. PHONE: MIDWAY 6-2612 December.8, 1959 RE: EDINA, MINNESOTA WELL N0.• 9. Our File: ,_ #5531 Mr. W. C. Hyde Village Manager Village of Edina 4801 West 50th Street Edina 24, Minnesota Dear Mr-`. ' Hyde: You will recall that some operating difficulties had been encountered with the pump installed by the Layne - Minnesota Company in Well No. 9 (the Hanson Road Well): After operation for more than a year we find that the pump is satisfactory and recommend that final acceptance be given by the Village and that final payment be made therefor. We are enclosing three (3) copies of Estimate No. 3 & Final on behalf of the Layne- Minnesota Company for payment. AWB:aw encl. cc: Mr. Bernard Woehler Water Works Superintendent Edina Layne - Minnesota Co. Yours very truly, BANISTER ENGINEERING CO. By . W.­Bdhister s BANISTER ENGM JEERING CONSULTING ENGINEERS 310 NORTH SNELLING AVENUE ST. PAUL 4. MINN. Layne- Minnesota-Company 3147 California Street N.E. Minneapolis 18, Minnesota Gentlemen. PHONE: MIDWAY 6.2612 December 8, 1959 Co. All: EDIBA, MIN11ESOTA, WELL NO. 9 Our File: #5531 Enclosed find our check in the amount ;fveewd'h% 21) as our s re of the payment on your bill to the Village of Edina y y invo 4385 dated August 8, 1958. On your credit memorandum 4784 dated 1959, you a credit of $3 83.33 against your original invoicea alance_ of 776.67. You did., however, include the full amount of $ich �u-clalm as "material and electrical charges ". It was our understanding, at the time sum of $1,230.61 would be split t e enclosing our check for $410.�: We are asking the Keys Well illing -C to you in the amount of *41 0. This bill. rence in Edina, that the full is on this basis that we are of St. Paul to forward their check then pair the full amount of the We have prepared etimht��r, the Village of Edina to pay you the sum of $500 due on t contract., We have also.prepared a letter recommending payment. When you haver eive4 the c ck from Keys Well Drilling Company and from the Village of Edin he accoun hould be closed. Yours very truly, BANISTER ENGIBEERING CO. By A. W. 'Mister AWB;aw encl. cc; Mr. W. C. Hyde, Village Manager, Edinaoo"� Mr. Bernard Woehler, Water Works Superintendent, Edina Keys Well Drilling Company Mr. E. C. SUM Stow - Stow Realty Company 4924 France Lve. So. Edina 10, Minn. Dear Mr. Stow': a - In accordance with the request you made at the December:14th Council lreeting, we are forwarding'herewith a copy.ofthe Banister Engineering. Coupany•s December 11, 1959 "Report-on Water Supply, Edina ". We trust you will Find it informative. Yours "very. truly, Village Clerk gsa December 18, 1959 Mr. L. S. Clark, President Edina`Woodhill Association 6720 Southerest Drive Edina 24, Minnesota Dear Mr. Clark: At the regular meeting of'the Village Council on December 148 the first meeting after your letter of November 22 was received, your comments concerning the feeling of- the Woodhill Edina Association concerning Edina °s water were presented to the Council. At the same meeting, A. W..Banister of Banister Engineering Company presented a report to the Council on the various alternatives and their respective costs as to how the Village can improve the quality of .the public water supply. I am enclosing a copy of this report and if your association. is sufficiently interested to appoint'a committee to go over it, we would be very happy to have representatives of the Village meet with the committee to answer any questions they might have after studying the report. Your village government would welcome any comments or suggestions your association or a committee thereof might have. The' Mayor and Council have asked that the report be made available to interested groups and their opinions solicited. It is hoped that not later than March 1, all interested groups will have had an opportunity to study the matter and make their feelings known to the Council and that a decision be veached at that time as.to what type of "treatment shall be given to the water supply. The most logical solution at he present time appears- to be to drill most if not all of the present wells to the Hinkley strata and then provide iron removal treatment for enough of the wells to enable the Village to hdve iron -free water available approxi- matelyninety percent of the time, One of our major problems is the extremely wide variation in the demand for water. On a day like today we're probably pumping some- what less than 2,000,000 gallons. Our wells can produce 9,000,000 gallons. During periods of any length of hot•dry weather, we are forced.;to put on sprinkling restrictions as all of our capacity.is used: I think it is the general feeling that it would be quite uneconomical to soften all water supplied as so much of it is used for purposes other than laundering and personal washing. Be assured that your interest in this problem is-most'welcome and we shall look forward to receiving your constructive suggestions as to the best solution, It should be pointed out that any substantial investment in treatment facilities would undoubtedly have to result in an upward revision &the water rates.` We are currently selling water at the following rates; first 36000 cu.ft., 200 per 100 cu.ft. net, next 3,500 cu.ft.+ 190 net, over 6,500 cu:ft., 180 per 100 ciz.ft. Yours very truly, Warren C . Hyde Village Manager WCH :gsa 9 7 6720 Southerest Drive., Minneapolis 24 Minn. l.;ovember 22 1939 Mayor and Village Council, Edina, FUnnesota. At a meeting of the Woodhill Edina Assocition the other evening the question of Edina Water was thoroly discussed. Conclusion reached by the meeting was that Edina Water.is terrible. It is hard, full of dirt and iron and entirely unsuitable for the supposedly first class Village in which we live. I was instructed to write you and again call this to your attention. The people in Woodhill feel that we are getting very poor water and that nothing seems in prospect for improvement unless and until we protest and protest and continue to protest. Surely something can be done to remove the iron and-iron compounds from our Crater. We have had two valuable imported table cloths literally ruined by attempting to wash them in Mina goo and from comments made at the meeting the other evening ourexperience eras . not uncommon. We now go to the extra expense and trouble of sending our better linen to a Laundry for cleaning and washing instead of taking a chance on Edina Water, ' As our elected representatives we ask that you give this matter your careful consideration and DO SOMETHING about it. Three years ago.we moved into the Village and at that time complained but as far as we can judge from what comes out of our faucbts, nothing has been accomplished. Will you please give me a report in writing of what you have done and what is planned to correct this water situation so that I can report at the next meeting of our association. Sincerely, S.Clark, Pres' ent, odhill Edi Association. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? T H E ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? W A T E R ?? Q U E S T I 0 N ,-:'gat about Golden Valley ? Are you interested in the Golden Valley water survey ? WDUI(J You 1_i.k,e to ':now the results of the spot check on 100 Golden Valley wells ? ''r:i_nF, your questions to ithe water meeting at the Golden Valley High School, 8:00 ;:.m. 1'ionday 'lov -tuber 2nd. The LEAGUE OF W01UN, VOTERS OF GOLDEN VALLEY is sponsorinn this open forum as a commurnity service. S,-ea':'cr: of the evenin will be Harry Mayeron, Consultin^ Engineer for Orr- Schele.n, Inc, the r'irrn which conducted the water survey. Your questions are encouraged and will be answered by Mr. Mayeron, the members of the Villat:;e roLincil.2 administrator Roger Ulstad, engineer Donald Sorensen, president of the Planning Commission George Pennock, members of the Planning Commission, village attorney Stanley Ii. Kane, v1.11_a?e assessor Robert Burns, a financial advisor.Als'o a representative from the State Board of t'ealth and Fire Underwriter's. CIRCLE THE DATE ---- - - - - -- MUNDAY, ETOVEEUTREF. 2. C 0 M E .,rA'a;E OF WOME -4 VOTERS OF GOLDEN VALLEY. r. •rl Q) 011 +) oq o -ice 14� r-•i 04 •r1 [d F F, cU Y•� Cd C U] w C0 - N N 4-) W O pj 1� MY W A r�. r --I N r� d November 1, 19590 1. With the addition of another Librarian, the open hours of the Library have been extended and should 'be noted: Monday & Thursday 1:00 p.m. - 9 :00 p.m. Tuesday & Friday 9 :00 a.m. - 5 :30 p.m. Wednesday 1 :00 p.m. - 5 :30.p.m. 2. The Lutheran Bible Institute received preliminary approval of plans for the construction of two Dormitories and an Academic Building at an estimated cost of ;11;1,750,000. This is the initial step in their construction program for additional building to provide housing for approximately 800 students. 3. Other substantial commercial building permits have been issued to: Armstrong & Schlicting, Inc. Architects 4901 Olson Memorial Highway - Estimated cost :"100,000 Mark Hurd Aerial Surveys, Inc. 215 Pennsvlvania Avenue - Estimated cost :in �n_nnn hinneapoiis Honeywell Company - Addition to Plant (240,811 sq. ft.) $65,000 Cosom Industries, Inc. - Addition to present building - cost - $120,000 4. COUNCIL g'C.Tes nod to Plymouth Avenue Improvement. Contract awarded to the Earl Welch Excavating Conz-)an)T on. their low bid of 1$1,17,000 with construction to be completed this Fall. 5. BUDGET time has come and gone, setting the 1960 figure at $720,000.00 with the establishment of a 27.88 mill rate on an assessed valuation of ;312,0481657.00. Here are some of the major appropriations - - $p201800 - the 1960 payment on the ',P'1'0 Civic Center and ,97,000 Park Board bond.issues. (This is in addition to last year's anticipated disbursement;) $1425000 - to be spent on roads, including an expenditure of $15,000 for a Caterpiller and $5,000 for other capital road equipment. $40,300 - for the new Civic Center - a substantial portion of which to be used for additional garage space. $41,815 - Sewer Department operating costs; with an added $50,000 for sewer billings by the City of Minneapolis $68,193 - Police Departmental expense allowing for an additional patrolman (this makes a total of 10 men including the acting chief) and providing funds for the two new police cars. 6. Be sure and plan to attend the WATER meeting scheduled for Monday evening, November 2nd. (see reverse side of this letter). Very truly yours, Roger K. Ulstad, Village Administrator. - 10— Mgiber Established 1936 American Chemical Society G 0 0 DWI N JOSS LAB 0111T 0 R, I E S Fellow American Institute F (SiO2) of Chemists 232.0 - Minnesota Industrial Analytical and Consulting Chemists Chemists Forum RESEARCH - TOXICOLOGY -ALCOHOL IN BLOOD American Council of BACTERIOLOGY OF WATER AND FOODS Independent'Laboratories 529 Seventh Street South ' Aluminum Oxide MINNEAPOLIS 15, MINNESOTA September 290 1959 Village of Edina 4801 W. 58th Street Edina, Minnesota. FEderal 5-0909 Gentlemen: Att: Mr* Warren Hyde, Village M"gere Report on Mineral Analysis -of sample of water from the R. E. Hacking -home, 4500 Arden Avenue* Taken 9 -14 -590 Submitted Septe 15, 1959 @ 2 :55 P.Me Lab. # 41779® ANALYSIS OF DISSOLVED SOLIDS atains /U.S.GalO Parts /Million® PH - 7.25 Silica (SiO2) 13057 232.0 - Iron as Fe -.1200 P.P.M. Iron Oxide. - (Fe203) 100.00 1710.0 Aluminum Oxide (A1203) 4.25 72e7 Calcium (Ca) 10e46 178.9 Magnesium' (Mg) 2066 45.5 Sodium (Na) 8e38 14303 Sulfate (SO ) 3.08 5207 Chloride (Cl 209 47.7 Carbonate (CO3) 0.00 0010 i Bicarbonate (HCO3) 58.74 1004.4 Total Solids 203,93' 348702 Half Bound CO2- - 29084 51002 Total Dissolved Solids I Total Alkalinity as CaCO 48021 824.5 Total Hardness as CaCO3 �Calce -) 234.47 406097 Manganese 6-(as Mn)— None® Free COO - None GJ:rhj GOODU N JOSS LABORATORIES. Note: This is not representative of your Edina water. It is a broken down water as we discussed over the telephones No precipitate developed in any of the Well waters, even upon prolonged standing of one week. Small amount of semi colloidal sand settled out of the Hanson Road well water saMle. ?Jo precipitate formed in distribution samples taken at 5900 Hanson Road (except small amount of sand), at 4513 Browndals. Precipitate of the microbto appearance type formed in the samples taken at the Senior H ischool and at 4501 Arden. Precipitate formed in the sample taken at 6120 Zenith, but avpeared to be all iron. Apparently some iron was dropping out of solution at the time of sampling due to low dosage of polyphosphateewil ° ���' Average polyphosphate dosage is ample and no trouble�shbul� be experienced due to instability of water. Insufficient chlorine is available in far ends of older distribution system lit is used up by old deposits). Old deposits are being removed by present chlorination program, and when sluffed cause localized discoloration, and possible odor.in the water. Possible solutions: A►doot chloramine program D Heavy flushing in trouble areas hsolate sections of distribution system and clean by extra high level chlorine application. Combination of the - above. 0 ° IlCopy left with — Signed_ Col 7 sivb& ._Title— _ TTerr. No. II a. o Form 900 2- 58- KW7713 Page No. of pages. ® NATIONAL ALUMINATE CORPORATION 6216 West 66th Place Chicago 38, Illinois PERSONAL SERVICE REPORT Plant of Village Water Department Date September 29, 1.959 Address Edina Minnesota Plant No Attention: Mr. Ben Woehler, Superintendent Copy to: Mr* Warren Hyde, Manager Copy to: UMD ,31 ° No precipitate developed in any of the Well waters, even upon prolonged standing of one week. Small amount of semi colloidal sand settled out of the Hanson Road well water saMle. ?Jo precipitate formed in distribution samples taken at 5900 Hanson Road (except small amount of sand), at 4513 Browndals. Precipitate of the microbto appearance type formed in the samples taken at the Senior H ischool and at 4501 Arden. Precipitate formed in the sample taken at 6120 Zenith, but avpeared to be all iron. Apparently some iron was dropping out of solution at the time of sampling due to low dosage of polyphosphateewil ° ���' Average polyphosphate dosage is ample and no trouble�shbul� be experienced due to instability of water. Insufficient chlorine is available in far ends of older distribution system lit is used up by old deposits). Old deposits are being removed by present chlorination program, and when sluffed cause localized discoloration, and possible odor.in the water. Possible solutions: A►doot chloramine program D Heavy flushing in trouble areas hsolate sections of distribution system and clean by extra high level chlorine application. Combination of the - above. 0 ° IlCopy left with — Signed_ Col 7 sivb& ._Title— _ TTerr. No. II a. o Form 900 2- 58- KW7713 Page No. of pages. r r� -7- Aw NATIONAL ALUMINATE CORPORATION 6216 West 66th Place Chicago 38, Illinois L PERSONAL SERVICE REPORT Plant of Village Water Department Date September 99 1959 Address Edina Minnesota Plant No. Attention- Mrw Hen Woehler Superintendent Copy to. I'# Warren Hyde Manager Copy to: UMD 31 JVMMP%r%I P%1VU RLVVMIVICIVUMI IVI9J The analyses below were made on samples of water taken from private residenses as identified bR the location shown, These samples were taken at the same time the well water samples were taken, The general time span being from 10:00 AM to noon. Fairly pronounced discoloration was noted at first flow when the faucets were opened at 4501 Arden and at the Senior Highschool Probable microbio growth were observed in these same samples upon prolonged standing4; SAMPLE - H H (Ca) ) M NaCl DS P H CrO., ORTHO PO, TOTAL PO} C1Q Fe CONC. RATIO Senior Hi 7,63 2,0 0,60 1.8 6120 Zenith 7,14 047 .040 14 5900 Hanson 7w1 45 1 :4 0*5 4513 Browndale 7,t2 0*3 Tr, 9q2 4501 Arden 7v2 0 8 Tr, 0 6r. RECOMMENDED READINGS PRESENT DOSAGES TREATMENT APPLIED TO: NALCO NO. CHLORINE ACID MAKE -UP WATER, GPM RECOMMENDED DOSAGES Copy left with Signed Dist. No.—Rt. =No.— Form 90E 2.59 WG207 Page No. 2- � of.2 —pag,� r NATIONAL ALUMINATE CORPORATION 6216 West 66th Place Chicago 38, Illinois PERSONAL SERVICE REPORT Plant of Village Water Department Date sAptAmt,Ar 22 1959 Address Edina Minnesota Plant No. Attention: Mr Ben Woehler, Superintendent Copy to: Mr Warren Hyde, manager Copy to: UND 31 JVMMMRI I11VV RCVVIYI IYICIV V/'111V1`IJ The analyses below were made on samples of water taken from the individual wells Southdale & Tower wells were placed in operation to get samples, Total PO4 in these samples were high because of the momentary high feed rate from the bakl feeders.. SAMPLE H H (Ca) M NaCl DS pH CrO, oPTOHO a TOTAL 3 CONC. RATIO Hanson Rd We - 1-5- Sherwood Well 272 180. 270 12 - 742 0,08 Tr Sguthdale W 280 185 276 12 1 7.3 - 1 6.01 Tower Well 280 185 276 12 Zol -° Bkvw Hts Well 250 16 250 12 - _ Tr Oo-40 RECOMMENDED READINGS PRESENT DOSAGES TREATMENT APPLIED TO: NALCO NO. CHLORINE ACID MAKE -UP WATER, GPM RECOMMENDED DOSAGES Copy left with Signed Dist. No.-Rt. No. Form 90E 2 -59 WG207 Page No. 3, of -2— pages. 0 1 206 MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL SANITATION ANALYTICAL DATA Samples Collected By Ben Woehler Field Number Town, County, Etc. Sampling Point and Source of Sample U 3403 Edina Jr. High School -• Washroom tap b 3404 " Grade School , 50th & Wooddale — Washroom c 3405 Cahill School - Janitors room 3406 a 4500 Arden - sink tap e 3407 " 4525 brei6j -w sink tap f 3408 6120 Z end. th — sink tap Sample Number La 3403 b 3404 c 3405 d 3406 e 3407 f 3408 Date Collected. 9-2149 Time Collected Temperature OF Date Received by Lab. 9-23-59 BACTERIAL: Exam. by Bacteria per ml. 350 C. 24 hours Coliform group t 100 ml. organisms s M.P.N. per 100 ml. 'PHYSICAL & CHEMICAL: Exam. by Settleable solids ml. per liter Total Solids Total Volatile Matter Suspended Solids Suspended Volatile Matter Turbidity 6 5 3 4 5 Color Total hardness as CaCO Alkalinity as CaCO pH value Iron 6o 60 .90 2 1.1 Manganese Chlorides Residual Chlorine . Sulphates Fluorides Dissolved 0xvaen ) five -day iRc .mica oxygen [ amanA 1([ Phosphorus Ammonia Nitrogen Organic Nitrogen Nitrite Nitrogen Nitrate Nitrogen Fe Bacteria NE NP Ny HE NF found 10> W Y 'M October 2, 1999 Banister Engineering Company 310 North Snelling Avenue Sts Paul, Minnesota Attentions Per. Wm. Banister S je,ott Well Water Chlorination Village of Edina, Minnesota tlemens Responding to your request, we conducted a chlorine residual survey throughout a Ius of the Village of Edina water supply distribution systems Mr: Bernhard Koehler, erintendent, I%ter Department, participated in, and designated the sampling points this investigation, you instructed, the object of this survey was to determine the magnitude and type of chlorine residual prevailing throughout the "four corners" of the system. "Type" of residual refers to either "free chlorine" or "ohloramine ",, The former indicates an ence of ammonium compounds (natural ammonium nitrogen in the well pater), and the 1 ter, ohloramine, is a combination of chlorine and the natural ammonia in the water, residual, or remaining, at the sampling.point- Free chlorine residuals are less stable (consumed faster because of a higher oxidation potential) than chloramine,, It also tends to combine with some forms of organic material to produce odor or taste derivatives. Chloramines, however, develop a maximum oxidation potential more slowly, which results in a more stable residual that persist for a longer period of,time, and Jhloramine has a much loner tendency to combine with taste producing substances* following report indicates, sampling point, such as house or school tap; odor ( ) rogen sulphide, or rotten egg odor); Free# chlorine residual; _ Total (free and combined); taste. Residual, P.P.M.., is parts per million galltons of watere September 24, 1999 Location Odor Residual Yge - - PPM Tota-L Taste Village Hall - Lab. Tap 0 0.0 - Trace 0 Tower well #4 4 0.15 — 0.75 0 -Wooddale School- Boiler Room 0 0.15 - 0.5 0 4811 -Maple Road 0 0.10 - 0.45 0 3905 - 49th Street Slight H2S 0.0 - 0.0 0 4500 Arden 0 001 - 002 0 4525 Drexel Slight H2S 0.15 - 0-7 0 r I " , Banister Engineering Company October 20 1959 Page Two .4502 Wooddale 4908 Sunnyeide 00 Sunnyside ill Grade School 70th 6 France - Standard Oil 44 France September 30, 199 Residual- PPM Odor Free - Total Teste Slight H2S 0.05 - 0.35 0 Strong H2§ 0.0 - 0.0 0 Strong H2S 0.0 - 0.0 0 0 0.,35 — 1,0 0 0 0.05 - 0.4 0 Strong H2S 0.0 - 0.05 0 ry water sample was clear and sparkling. If there have these areas, the presumption should be odor, since they are f the residents we questioned complained about "red water clothing. Some of them mentioned the "rotten egg" odor. been taste complaints in closely associated. None " or staining of fixtures There were no chlorinous ate or odor complaints. is evident from this survey that the natural ammonium notrogen content in the wells not sufficient to produce an adequate, stable chloramine residual throughout the entire distribution system. Therefore, we suggest that ammonium sulphate is properly ded to, at least, those wells suing the areas containing zero or low residuals and ere the hydrogen sulphide (rotten egg) odgr prevails. This will permit maintaining more uniform and slightly higher chloramine residual, and one that will be sufficient to destroy the sulphate organisms that produce the obnoxious odor. The chemical cost would be dust a few dollars, perhaps X2.00 or X3900 per million gallons of water treated, and the price of a solution pump is less than $500.00. appreciate the opportunity of cooperating. with you and the Village of Edina to this tent, and we assure you of our continued interest. The time and assistance extended We Woehler in conducting these tests is also appreciated• Very truly yours# WALIACE 6 TIER.NAN INCORPORATED WJBash cc: Mr. B. C. Woehler, Water Department Village of Edina Edina, Minnesota Superintendent we Js Bell Division Manager STATE OF MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH UNIVERSITY CAMPUS MINNEAPOLIS 14 October 16, 1959 Village Council of Edina c/o Warren Hyde, Village Manager Minneapolis 24, Minnesota Gentlemen: Enclosed is a copy of the laboratory report on examinations we conducted for turbidity, iron and iron bacteria on six samples which. Mr. Ben Woehler, Water Superintendent, collected from the municipal supply and delivered to this office for analyses. If you have any questions on the results, please let us know. Yours very truly, r--f F. Z. Woodward, Director Division of Environmental Sari. to ti on Enc. cc: Dr. C. V. Rockwell, Health Officer, Mpls. Mr. Ben Woehler, Water Superintendent R How Edina Can Provide Good 'Water A Report, with recommendations, to the Village Council October 13, 1959 At a meeting of the Village Council on September 14, 1959, several residents from the Country Club section appeared to protest the poor quality of the water they were receiving from the Village system. A small jar full of water and a lawn soaker were presented as evidence. The water in the jar was reportedly taken from the bottom of a bathtub, and contained a very odiferous sample, with about one inch of black sedimen- tation at the bottom. The lawn soaker had a sandy, rusty sediment. You then requested immediate attention to the whole problem. Since that time we have had many samples taken and several tests made by Wallace and Tiernan, the Flox Company, Goodwin Joss Laboratories, and the State Board of Health. The findings of these tests are attached. We have also had several discussions with representatives of those groups and with A. W. Banister, Consulting Engineer. We have also taken out a section of 6 inch cast iron main on Sunnyside Road, and it is being analyzed to determine whether a program of mechanical cleaning of old mains is advisable. THE BASIC PROBLEM - -- Most water secured from wells in this area, including Minnesota, and the Dakotas, has iron in it. The amount of iron varies from one well to another, from one strata of underground water to another, and from time to time in the same well or in the same strata. It is the iron in the water which causes a coloration of the water, an odor, and staining of clothes and plumbing fixtures. It was the basic problem which was brought to your attention early in 1956, as until that time there had been little concern given to the quality of the water. You author- ized the Banister Engineering Company to study the problems of quality, distribution and storage and a report was submitted to you dated June 14, 1956. In regard to treatment of the water, this report made the following statements: Treatment The analyses of the various supplies of water have been previously discussed. The water is relatively hard, contains iron (varying from 0.65 to 1.8 p.p.m.,) and contains iron bacteria. Arguments for and against complete softening of water are many. Considering the quantities of water used for lawn sprinkling and required for fire protection it is hard to see where complete softening of water can be justified. Contentions that savings in the cost of soap will offset this do not appear founded now that detergents have substantially reduced the quantity of soap used. Recent studies (2) indicate that the difference in cost between iron removal only and complete softening is estimated to be about $69.00 per million gallons. For a population of 20,000 persons at an average consumption rate of 140 gallons per person per day (1022 million gallons per year) this represents an annual cost of $70,518.00 for the difference in cost for softening over the cost of iron removal. The use of complete softening does not appear warranted. Peculiarly, providing a softened water does not eliminate the individual home softeners. Iron removal, and the elimination of "red" water, is another matter. The presence of iron in concentrations greater than 0.35 to 0.40 p.p.m. justifies removal of iron. Iron concentrations greater than the foregoing result in the staining of clothes and plumbing fixtures. The presence of the iron bacteria, which are living organisms which feed on the iron, magnify the problem, and cause a poor taste and odor in the water. The iron bacteria can be controlled or destroyed by chlorination of the water. The chlorine is isued in sufficiently small quantities to be almost unnoticeable to the users. However, the bacteria are now present in the mains and won't be destroyed by the concentration of chlorine used to destroy them at the source. Time plus flushing of mains can overcome this providing all water used _i.s._chlorinated. Presently the Village is using 8 wells, with some of the wells not being provided with chlorinators... The iron is the food for the bacteria. As long as the iron is present and some bacteria are put into the system, even on only a few occasions, the bacteria will__grow__in_ the mains. Chlorination of some of the supply accomplishes little. If the taste and odor problem is to be controlled all water pumped into the system must always be chlorinated, except in extreme emergencies. Accordingly, it is recommended that chlorinators be installed in all wells at the earliest practical time and that all the mains be thoroughly flushed on a periodic program. Iton removal is the ideal method of controlling the iron. If the iron is removed, those iron bacteria which remain in the system will gradually die if the source of food is a1;T.Ilate The mothods used for iron removal can vary, depending on location. Report on Water - 2 10 -13-59 A word of caution is given, however, because most any type of iron removal requires backwashing. The backwashing quantities are large, i.e., a 1000 G.P.M. iron removal p -3r.t, divided into 2 sections, will require 4000 G.P.M. for backwashing. Such backwash wate_r must be discharged into a storm sewer, unless a holding tank were constructed to feed water into the sanitary sewer in quantities small enough to be within the capacity of the sanitary sewer. However, with the volumetric charges now imposed by the City of Minnea- polis such disposal facilities would be costly. Proceeding with iron removal should be carefully studied and consideration should be given to storm sewers, which will ultimate' -"! .be required regardless of iron removal. Because of the present dispersal of the wells the matter of the type of iron removal plant must be considered. If a plant to treat the water from 2 or 3 wells were installer the cost of connecting mains from the wells to the plant must be considered. Because of lack of facilities for disposal of backwash water estimates of cost given herein are rather general. If individual iron removal plants were installed for each well the type most econonica. would be aeration followed by pressure filters. The cost for this type is estimated to average approximately $60,000.00 each. If 2 or 3 wells could be fed into one plant the cost of a 2000 G.P.M. plant would be approximately $110,000.00 to $135,000.00 each depending on the type used, and for a 3000 G.P.M. plant would be approximately $120,000.00 to $145,000.00 each. These estimates do not include the cost of connecting mains. The cost of providing iron removal, over using well water direct, is estimated -to be approximately $19,00 to $25.00 per million gallons, depending on the number of plants used and their distance apart. This estimate is based on a 20 year amortization plus labor and power costs. None of the foregoing estimates include the cost of providing sewers for backwash water disposal. It is recommended that the Village give consideration to storm sewers which could, incidentally, be used for backwash water disposal. It is further recommended that a pilot plant be obtained and used, probably on a loan basis, to determine the most econ- omical type of iron removal plant for the water conditions. Asa temporary substitute to iron removal the "red" water problem can be materially helped by keeping the iron in suspension. In doing this the water would still be chlor- inated and a chemical, which has no taste or odor, is added to the water to prevent the iron from settling out. This will perform satisfactorily if the water storage is not in excess of 3 days. The storage at Edina is less than this. The chemical used is a "poly- phosphate" (Nalco #918 polyphosphate is an example) and is fed at the rate of about 3 p.p.m. when the iron content is 1 to 1.5 p.p.m. (the average of the Edina water). Such feed rates will require about 25 pounds of chemical per million gallons of slater. The cost is estimated at $0.22 per lb. on the basis, previously used, of 20,000 population and a consumption rate of 140 gallons per person per day; the cost per yea- is estimated to be approximately $5,620.00 per year. To this must be added the cost of labor to place the chemical in the feeders, plus the cost of amortizing the feeders. No added power is required. The cost of the feeders varies from $125.00 to about $550.00; plus about $100.00 for installation, depending on the type. If the more expensive type were provided for all wells the cost would be only $5.000.00. It is recommended that the Village immediately proceed with a program of chemical feed to keep the iron in suspension. After consideration of the above recommendations, the Village did immediately proceed with a program of chemical feeding to keep the iron in suspension anal with .-a,uip'_ot--, ination of all water. The Banister report also recommended closing up dead ends, and additional storage capacity. These recommendations have also been followed. In addition, a layout of future trunk mains was provided, which has been followed. Furthermore, the newest well, (No. 9), was drilled to the Hinckley strata at a depth of about 1100 feet, compared with depths of from 400 to 500 feet for the other wells, and at least until re- cently, the iron content of the water from that well was below the critical level. This water is also considerably softer than that from the other wells. One of the recent tests shows that this well's iron content has increased slightly. A study of the various tests and analyses and the complaints indicates that the present treatment is not solving the basic problem fast enough. Report on Water - 3 10 -13 - °? COURSES OF ACTION - -- There are several possible courses of action which could be taken to insure a more acceptable product from the water system. They are: 1. Connect with Minneapolis. (We should at least formally ask the City as to its ability and desire to furnish water to us. We understand their wholesale rate would be in excess of 30¢ per hundred cubic feet, that we would have to provide considerable additional storage in order to take our needs at off -peak times, and we would have to provide a network of transmission mains from the ?Ainneapol1, system to our storage facilities. (Our present rates are 20¢, 19$ and 18� per hundred cubic feet). This would give us a softer water with less iron, as the Minneapolis supply comes from the Mississippi River. It normally carries, however, a noticeable chlorine odor. 2. Soften all water tX the lime -soda process. This would also remove the iron. It would also be the most expensive solution. Considerable opposition to this solution might be had from "vested interests." 3. Construct and maintain iron removal plants at all or three or four of the wells, with or without zeolite softening. (The City of Hopkins built three iron rernov- plants at a total cost of $200,000 and reports excellent results.) 4. Drill any additional wells to the Hinckley level and drill some of the present wells to the Hinckley level. (There is some doubt as to the ability of the Hinckley strata to produce sufficient water.) 5. Clean by mechanical means the older mains in the system. (Present evidence is that this is not necessary. One pipe expert feels that unless mains are of sufficient size to be relined after cleaning, cleaning results in a faster, future encrustation. None of our mains are large enough to reline. A length of the 30 year old main on Sunnyside ie being sent to American Cast Iron Pipe Company at Birmingham, Alabama, for analysis. An inspection of a 20 year old main at Jauanita and 52nd Street on October 12, which has been flushed period- ically, reveals less encrustation than on the Sunnyside section and a relative- ly unobstructed main.) 6. Require cement lined pipe for all future mains. This is not costly and is being specified.. 7. Start immediately to add ammonium sulphate to the present water as recommended by Mr. Bell of Wallace and Tiernan and Flox Co. This could be done with pres- ent equipment by taking three or four wells out of service for the winter and using the polyphosphate feeders from those wells at the in- service- wells. 8. "Blitz" super - chlorination in a short (12 hour period) of small areas. It is tentatively believed that this is not necessary, although consideration should be given.to doing this in 2 or 3 sample areas where we have had the most com- plaints. With any of the solutions, other than lime -soda softening, even though the public water supplied to the user was sparkling clear and free of iron, the use of home zeolite softeners and domestic hot water heaters with magnesium sacrifice rods, and possibly galvanized pipe or galvanized fittings on copper piping, can and often does cause a reducing action on the sulfates in the water, the net result of which produces a rotten egg odor. On the basis of the investigations and consultations to date, it is recommended that: 1. Ammonium sulphate be added to the water immediately 2. Authority be given for the retention of further consulting engineering study and report as to the cost and result of: A. Lime -soda softening B. Iron removal with zeolite softening C. Iron Removal D. Using only Hinckley strata water. Such a report should also include proposed locations for treatment plants. 3. The Water Department be authorized to employ two additional men and to purch an additional pick -up truck to permit a constant main - flushing program. The Department currently consists -)f a superintendent, a foreman, two maintenance men and a meter reader. It is difficult to handle all of the service calls and maintain a regular flushing program, inasmuch as the flushing is normally done at night so as to eliminate as much as possible the riling up of the water while customers are using it. This would allow more intensive irivestir, ­_- of complaints. •t on Water - 4 10 -13 -5� 4. Consideration will also have to be given to an ultimate raise and revision of the water rate structure which is currently among the very lowest in the area. Respectfully submitted, Warren C. Hyde, Village Manager. October 209 19590 -Mr. A. W. ,Hanister9. B nister.Engineering Co., 310 N. Snelling Avenues St. Paulo Minnesota. Dear lam. Beriidtesa This will confirm our tolephone convdr$ation of last week in which I advised you that the.Mayora and Trustees*, at the meeting of Octo -- ber 13tii9 authorized you to prepare a'detailed report on cost and locations of iron removal al plants for the Wine system.. together with data, as to what -can 'be expected .from the-construction of such facilities. I am enclosing a copy of ,s.report I made to the Council on.the water situations which resulted in -this action. W6 are also going Ahead with the addition of ammonium sulphate and I am writing the City of -Minnespolis.es to,conditions under which they might be willing to supply waters 1 ' I think it might be well if you included in your report some estimates on cost of water softening. One_particulFar item to be concerned about$ of course$ is the backwash water from an iron removal plant. If it appears to you that the Wooddale Park well site would be a location for'an;iron'removal plant; what would have to be-done to dilute the backwash water? I can.see that we would have considerable objection to sunning red water thru the creek where -it divides beautifully land- scaped backyards just east of Wooddale Avenue. You may also, want to give consideration to the cost# general feasibility, and results of drilling some or all of the present wella9 or new wells, to the Hinckley strata. I think vie should consider -the last Fanalyses on the Hanson Road wello which showed that the iron Content was up. It is understood-that-the cost of this report will be less than $19000 and I assume you are going to'do it on the time basis and I hope it will be possible for you to complete it within a reasonable time. May I have your. thoughts on when it will be finished? Very truly yours. Warren C. Hyde. Village.Manager. WCHaB Encla January 309 1959. 1 r. A. We Banisters Banister Engineerings 310 North Snelling Aveo, St. Paul 4o Minnesota, Dear Mr. Banister: We need to make ;some disposition of the bill from Layne- Minnesota on the Hanson Road wells,which was occasioned by the extra work. Please give me a call on,this and let's get-a meeting with'Keyes to get the thing ironed out. Alsoa please talk to me when you,get back mbout•preliminary thinking on considering iron removal plants,at two wells*' Very truly yours _ Warren C. Hydes Village Manager. WCH eB To: Mr. Warren Hyde Subject: Leafy Spurge on the property of Roy W: Larsen I would like first to refer to a letter dated.September 9, 1958 from the Mackall, Crounse, Moore and Helmey law offices concerning the eradica- tion of noxious weeds on the Roy W. Larsen property. It was suggested in this letter to,defer the matter until spring upon which time we would in- form Mr. Larsen as to the.type of weed which it is deserved that he eli- minate. During the early part of the summer.) approximately June.5th, 1959, the county weed inspector, Mr. Ira Mc Kown, pointed out to Mr. Riedesel the leafy spurge on the Roy W. Larsen property -and suggested that immed- iate action be taken to eradicate the same. He mentioned at this time that the state weed inspector, Mr. Sig. Bjerken, brought this property to his attention. After this meeting Mr.-Riedesel asked me to go out and check the location of the leafy spurge and to determine its density. I did just- this a short time later. It was on this visit that I had just walked into the field, not y ®t giving it s thorough.examination, when Mrs. Larsen came out of her.driveway and asked.me over to the car. She then asked me if I was able-to find the weeds which might be deemed as "noxious weeds." I informed her that from here I could not see any noxious weeds. She then told me that if I did find any noxious weeds she would eradicate them.. She also told me about squabbles that she has had with the neighbors, with Mr. Hyde, with the previous weed, inspector and God only knows who else. She termed this information as -2- being a "background to the weed problem." Upon the discontinuance of this conversation. I then examined the property more carefully for-leafy spurge. I was able to find huge patches of the same scattered at random over the property. I informed Mr. Riedesel of this and he and I then (approximately, July b, 1959)3 went to speak to Mrs. Roy W. .Larsen. We told her about the problem with which she was undoubtedly already familar in lieu of her experi- ences in previous years. We suggested that she spray the leafy spurge as a method of eradication. She was-reticent to do this because of, the dangering effects on the surrounding "vegetation. She suggested that we stake out the areas that contain leafy spurge and she and her "boy ", as she referred to him,:would go out and pull the leafy spurge and burn it. I warned her of the-fact that it would be a large undertaking but she insisted. 4n Tuesday, July 7th, 19592 I secured approximately one -half dozen stakes and proceeded to stake out the patches of leafy spurge on,the Larsen property. I returned on the following Friday.. July 10ths 1959s to check the_ property but nothing had been done yet. Mrs ". Larsen specifically stated that she and her "boy" would take care of_ the weeds on Thursday. This is the reason I checked it Friday. I then returned to Mr.. Riedesel and gave him my observations. He suggested that we give her a little more time to take care of the matter. After numerous inspections, hereafter, it became evident that the Larsen's were going to do nothing about this matter so we sent them a notice requesting the eradication of the leafy spurge with use of D -B granular or 2 -hD. This notice was dated July 29, 1959 and seven (7) days were given to eradicate the same. I again checked the property August 59 1959 and still nothing had been -3- done. Alsoi on this date we received.a letter from Mr. Larsen reiterating the above information but I might add somewhat miscontrued. In a telephone conversation on August- 69,1959, between Mr. Larsen and Mr. giedesel, Mr. Larsen stated that he would contact. the governor in this regard. We waited still longer to see if something would be done but with no results. On August 13, 1959,•1 contacted Mr. Joe Natole,.our weed cutter, and asked him to go into the property and cut,the leafy - spurge. He did just this which took him l hour at the rate of $7.00 per hour.. This brings us right up to date on this matter. I might add that.we have given the Larsens our complete cooperation in�6taking out the areas and have given them every opportunity to eradi- cate them on their own. In addition to this we would like -to.note that they were not sprayed so as to endanger the surrounding vegetation, but cut. It is doubtful as to the effectiveness of this method of eradica- tion but it will probably suffice until the Larsens reorganize their thinking and come to terms with themselves over this matter, (if ever). To: Mr, Warren Hyde Subject: Leafy Spurge on the property of Roy W. Larsen I would like first to refer to a letter dated September 9, 1958 from the Mackall, Crounse, Moore and Halmey law offices concerning the eradica- tion of noxious weeds on the Roy W. Larsen property. It was suggested in. this letter to defer the matter until spring upon which time we'would in- form Mr. Larsen as to the type -of weed which it is deserved that he eli- ninate. / �r�r. Yuoe S'''%. /fS ` J{'i�,' •rte t�'GOdGan� During the early part of the summer.,the county weed inspecto�,Ipoint- ed out to Mr. Riedesel the-leafy spurge on the Roy W. Larsen property and suggested that immediate action be taken to eradicate the same. He men- tioned at this time that the state weed inspeciorrhad brought this pro- � �5. party to his attention. After this meeting Mr. Riedesel asked me to go out and check the location of the leafy spurge and to determine its density. I did just :this a short time later. It was on this visit that I had just walkid into the field not yet giving it a thorough examination when Mrs. Larsen came out of her driveway and asked me over to the car. She then asked me if I was able to find the weeds which might be deemed as "noxious weeds:" I informed her that from here I could not see any noxious weeds. She then told me that if I did find any noxious weeds she would eradicate them. She also told me about scabblos that she has had with the neighbors. with Mr. Hyde, with the previous weed inspeetor� and God only knows who else. She - termed this information as being a "background. to the cased problem." -2 Upon the discontinu7ce of this conversation I then Examined the property more carefully for', leafy spurge. I was able to find huge patches of th'e same scattered at random over the property. I informed Mri Riedesel of this and he and I then (approximately, July 6, 1959), went to speak to Mrs. Roy W. Larsen. We told her about the problem W which she was undoubte4y already familar wd*r -in lieu of her expert{ ences in previous. years. We suggested that she,spray the' leafy spurge as a method of eradication. She was to do this because of the dangering effects on the surrounding vegetation. She suggested that we stake out the areas that contain leafy spurge and she and her "boy" as she referred to him would go out and pull the 'leafy' spurge and burn it. I warned her of the fact that it would be a QV-, large undertaking but she insisted. On Tuesday I secured approximate- ' ly one-half dozen stakes and proceeded to stake out'the patches of leafy spurge on the Larsen property. I returned on the following FridayAto check the property but nothing had been done yet. Mrs. Larsen specifically stated that she and her "boy" would take care of weeds on Thursday. This is the reason I checked it Friday. I then returned to Mr. Riedesel and gave him'my observations. He suggested that we give her a little more time to take care of the matter. After numerous inspections,hereafter, it became evident that the Larsen's were going to do nothing about this matter so we sent them a notice requesting the eradication of the -leafy spurge with use of D -B granular'or 2, hD. This notice was dated July 29, 1959 and seven (7) days were given to eradicate the same. I again checked the property August 5, 1959.and still nothing had been .done. Aldo on this date we received a letter from Mr. Larsen -3- reiteratin g the above information but I might add somewhat cns otrued. In a telephone conversation on August 6, 1959, between Mr. Larsen and Mr. Riedesel, Mr. Larsen stated that he would contact the iovernor in this regard. We waited still longer'to see if something would be done but .with no results. On August 13, 1959, I contacted Mr. Joe Natole, our weed cutter, and asked him to go into the property..and cut the leafy spurge. Ike did just this which took him 1 hour at the rate of $7.00 per hour. This brings us right up to date on this matter. I might add that we have given the Larsen our complete cooperation in staking out the areas and have given them every opportunity to eradi- cate them on their own. In addition to this-we would like to note that they were not sprayed so as to dndanger- the surrounding vegetation, but cut. It is doubtful as to the effectiveness of this method of eradica- tion but it will probably suffice until the Larsens reorganize their thinking.and come to terms with.-themselves over this matter, (if ever). ,1 WATER DEPARTMENT COMPLAINTS Address Make and type of equipment Nam® Softener j Is it private or contracted DAte - By How often is it maintained Time -of trouble A'M' Heater .M. Is this first occurence Piping ( ) Odor Washing machine make Brown Water () automatic () semi manual ( ).Black Water i ( ) Sand Date hydrant was last flushed () Other Is the line on a dead end Sample taken Yes No j COMMENTS: (please indicate seriousness of the problem and other information) - Use back side if needed • 1 � 10. 19�i� Mfr. Gores Ce Bol31en. City Ragineer Hinneapolis City Ball 0inneagpolia 15, Mane Dean; tar: Bodien: . At tba present t9.m this Villa@e - o! Fauna is considering tether to dark upon a program of pro iidiM iron reaovel plants for all or some of ito eight . wells whia hh• mupply -Etta water to a= 5,000 accounts here its Edina. D®fore we take thin &tarduation, them a VAyor nd''village Council asked that we determine - fam tire' city o� N mempolia wbe€her and under cant conditions and at what cast, tumwapolla deter could be made available to Rdina. . Out normal daily consumption 'is now 1,300,000 gallons. ' ..Our peak demand with sprinkling restriction from noon to 8 p.me is in- the neighborhood of ten - udllLon gallons. As you undoubtedly tea, -at lc mt nin aty percent of otur dew is for realdences..as the only significant-bubiness district we supply is the 50th surd. France Ghopptag center. " 'Southdale Stropping Center mWpUes its mn cater. althau& we do supply the mdical office building, and -thc C diiy' Stabilization Service office building. At present we have tc�o elevated storage tanks, each of which has a capacity of 500,4100 CaIlons, and urea area just Meting the construction of a 4,000,003 -SaIlon ,ground level r6servoir at ?Arta street, and Vmblin. iload, which is about a mLle and a half from tUghway 100. 10proximately how many gallons per day do you have of excess- capacity and what would the wholesale saute to Mina be Wouming that you could supply to us'? very truly yours._ U arr(m C. -Wft,_ 3miater Ua gr. November a. 1959 Mr. Donald C. Teorey0 4622 Casco Avenues Edina 240 Minnesota. Dear Ur.::Teoreya In checking your water bill historyp I think I have discovered the reason for your abnormally high bill for.the quarter ending November 10 the meter reading date being October 5th. _ For the, quarter ending August 19, you were billed for only 3000 cubic feet at a gross billing of $6.60 and.a not charge of $6.00. Actuallyp..the meter reader's book shows a reading of 380600 -for the meter. This was takens howevery by the biller as 280600. Therefore0'you should have been billed for 130000 cubic feet for August and.only 129400 cubic.feet.for,Novembera instead.of 220400. in other words, since the reading for the quarter ending May 1, you-have used 250400 cubic feet and you should have been . billed .In-two installments of 139,000 and 120400 instead:of 30000 and 220400. We are not considering sewage charges0 inasmuch as that is regardless of water. Following is the difference in the correct billing and the incorrect billing# As billed Corrected billing Net Net August, $ 6.00 $ 24.35 Dbvember $47027 $ 47.62 Needless to say, we will not'bill.you. for the additional 35,cents. I am, accordingly, returning your bill and hope,the.above explanation is.satisfactoryo' If you would like to come in and check the.meter r ending books we will be happy to show it to you In accordance_ with your requesto I am asking the Water department to make a test on the meter and I think it is entirely possible that for-the-quarter ending August let your usage was high0 Inasmuch as you will recall we did have some rather extended stretches of hot0 dry weather last summer and our total pumping was at a new high peak on many days during that period* Very truly yourso WCl #H Encl. Warren C. Hyde. Village Manager. v - a - /-3 K l U LONGWOOD TOWERS . BROOKLINE, MASSACHUSETTS 3' 44, L4 I a r e17 - ��- oz a� 4ei LONGWOOD TOWERS BROOKLINE, MASSACHUSETTS � � � -c - � � ✓ - ter'`' -�- ,0 �l� - CY'� . �t�•,�_ � . `may[- �`e� ``-�� kL- ell '.." 41e, :-�� VILLAGE OF EDINA Water Department Service Record Address li Nance ?fi A ~F} r Date Taken / // � U By Other Acct. No. Service On / / I -� - lll \7 Leaky Meter (—) Noisy Meter Stopped Meter do n check Reading Serviced By Date,�' ha Meter No.-~o Reading Service VILLAGE OF.EDINA Water Department Service Recoryi_ Address Nam Date Taken Other Accte No. Service On a _ Leaky Meter Noisy Meter (—) Stopped Meter (_) Check Reading I :. Serviced By Pate. Meter No. %� % Reading Service Not. s��dC VILLAGE OF EDINA Water Department Service - Record Address Name Date Taken By Other .. 16 A Acct. No. Service On A¢Leaky Meter f ( ) Noisy Meter i) Stopped Meter j ( Check Reading Serviced_ By Date ..�� Meter No. D �o? '� Reading 37 Service` Notes r/m VILLAGE OF EDINA Acct. No. '761 Water Department Service Record Service On Th-%,Jr.; - ,g,f.• -f:,,� Address _ 5��1�'� �'� / „,!.�(� r/ ��'�.�' (�- Le�y Meter i� ��,, ( ) Noisy Meter Name )s ?.�� - .h , , %) Stopped Meter ( ) Check Reading Date Taken SC% i� By Other ee-,Pl fA �t.� _ Vp.s a ,.. . _ r/�� � f ` / f i llCV'( wotsr� r f �-+� ��± Lf” / � / Ai.? ) r Serviced :Bye- _%`�°/ U Date Meter `No'. 0� � Reading ;Service Notes F November 25, 1958 1.•S. Younkin 308 C- Longwood Towers 20 Chapel Street nrookline; Yassachusetts rear ;•�r. Younkin, Thank you for your letter. I am sorry but we cannot find any reason to think your water and sewer bill for 4901 Haple :load was in error. At your request we had a serviceman check the reading on the ` pter. The consumption an 11/ ?1/58 showed. 39437. The reading on 10/9/58 was 393M. The consumption is now 100+ cubic fo�pt more than.it was on your bill. Your previous billing had been estimmated as we were unable to get in on-September 7th. The previous reading was made April 10. It appears now that I estimated the August consumption to low. 7f it is any consolation to you a lot.of people questioned their mills during this period. 'We-normally get that response. when the bills run high. We were aware of-the situation before hand as we had questioned how to keep the tanks suprlied as the use had been so great. I am enelosing a rate chart for you to check our figures. I have checked them carefully and find no errors. Thank you for your understanding. I hope.I have been helpful to you. Very truly yours. Billing Clerk 6; s, � r I otj aI eL o E rm-, March 6, 1959 MINUTES - TAILING OF BIDS - WA'TER MEET ERS, . Pursuant to "Advertisement for Bids -Water Meters" published in Edina - LOorningside Courier and Construction Bulletin on February 12 and 19, 1959, the following sealed bids Caere publicly opened and read in the Edina Village Hall at 11:00 A.M., Friday, March 6, 19599 with Messrs. Hyde and Hite representing the Village, together with Clerk; and with bidders' representatives presents Village Clerk BADGER METER HERSEY MFG. M. CO. CO. Ea. �® Ea. 19000 - 5/8" x 3/4 ", with connections $26.87 $27.52 19000 - Remote Reading Registers 18.20 No Bid 50 - 3/4 "9 with connections 40.12 40.32 25 - l" 58.99 59.20 6 - 1-kl x 3/4" " 110.49 110.72 4 - 2" Disc 166.40 166.40 2 - 2" Turbin 144.84 149.94 2 - 2" Compound 300.00 305.76 2 - 3" Compound 450.00 458.64 1 - 4" Compound 760.00 764.40 1 - 6" Compound 1500.00 1528.80 TERMS 30 Days 30 Days DELIVERY As Requested As Requested Manager Hyde told bidders Council would consider bids at its meeting of Monday, March 9, and closed meting. Village Clerk March 269'1959 ' Mr. Carl A. Clifford Quist, 6037 Zenith Avenue South, Edina 10, Minnesota. Dear Mr. Q4ists I am sorry it was necessary for'you to write about the dark brown crater that you have been getting from the Village system. The problem is.complicated and is going to require,some time and - considerable money before-it is finally solved. The basic problem is that our supply from our seven older wells comes from the so- called Jordan and Shakopee strata, which is 400 to 500 -feet below `ground. This strata produces water which is pure but is rather hard and has a- considerable amount of Iron in it. It is the iron which causes the dark brown, or reddish, discoloration. About three and a half years ago we started trying to discover how to remove the iron or to treat it -so it would be much less noticeable to the userso We retained a well qualified consulting engineer who has had considerable experience with iron treatment and removal to study this problem as well as the overall future of the Village water system. The only real way to solve the problem is to have iron re- moval plants at the wells where the water is secured. Such iron removal plants, however, are relatively costly, averaging about $759000 for 1,000 gallon per minute capacity. The fact that.our older wells were drilled in locations to serve the various areas as they developed complicates our problem tremendously. To have iron removal facilities makes it necessary to havo a reasonable amount of space for the necessary building and access to storm sewers where the back wash water can be taken. Unfortunately, very few of our older wells are located near storm sewers and many of them are on very small plots of ground. Because of this situation_, the recommendation of the consulting engineer.for immediate action was to treat the water by introducing - polyphosphate into it as it comes from the wells. ;his chemical keeps the iron in suspension. a are also faced with the situation that in the mains themselves there is considerable encrustation and to eliminate this, it was recommended that vie.chlorinate all water to gradually remove the iron on the mains. E +s have, accordingly, been doing these two things during the last two and.a half years or so.- In addition, our newest well, which was just put into service last surer, was drilled to the so- called Hinckley strata at a depth of-about 1100 feet to reach a source of water that has much less iron in it than the water in other shallower stratas. The iron content of this well is 0.44 parts per million as against an average of 1.04 parts per million in summer from our other wells. During the past fall and winter months, you have been getting most of your water from the new well which is located on Hanson Road just east of the railroad tracks and just south of Denton Avenue. Previously, your water came from the wells at 69th and France, 66th and Ridgeview, 52nd and Halifax, 4looddal'e Park, on Highway 169 near the Biltmore Motel, at the Junior High and at the Senior High. Quist -2 3 -26 -59 We_did not ieceive, complaints from your area until the Hanson Road went into full operation and was the primary source of water for your area. that has happened is that the water is.now coming from a different direction than previously and is, consequently, forcing out the previous encrustation of iron particle. In order to minimize this as much as possible, we have been flushing the mains in your area quite ,frequently. By flushing through the hydrants, we tend to clean out'the mains and got out most of the iron particles.' Our whole water situation is'further complicated by the fact that we probably have one of 'the greatest variations in demand of any.similar community. During the winter a normal day °s pumping is approximately 1.2 million gallons, while in the summer in hot, dry weather we are called upon to supply up to 990009000 gallons. Last creek Mr,' Zoehler, the water .superintendent, and I visited a new $1009000 iron removal.plant at Albert Lea. Cie. are now attempting to find.a location here in Edina at one of our present wells'Where vie couldm without too'much opposition from the imwdiate neighbors,.instell an iron removal. plant. Ve are,also considering the feasibility of extending storm sewers to some of the well locations, in order that. we would be able to take care of the back wash water. The filters have to be back - washed about every two to three weeks. The problem of iron which vie have is encountered by all water supplies which get their water from the Jordan or Shakopee vein. Hopkins just completed building three iron removal plants Which we are investigating and I am certain that in the near fu- ture the Council will sake some decisions on whether to go ahead with iron removal facilities. The water is chemically pure as the iron is not considered an impurity. Please be assured that we will continue to keep flushing as often as we can and as often as is needed. Some people have installed their own domestic iron rival sys- tems. The -home I built is in an area where three years ago the possibility of Village _ water was quite remote, - - - then last summer vie got a main within one lot of our house. My well is about 325 feet deep and after four weeks use, my wife insisted that I'get an iron filter. It works rsell if I backwash it occasionally. We have also been concerned about the-number of dead -end_ mains we have had in the system where Crater circulation is poor. This year we will spend about $50,000 looping several mains to eliminate the stagnant dead - ends. Recently we discovered that we had a 2 -inch galvanized iron dead -end main serving about ten homes, which must be replaced because it is in danger of crumbling.- As soon.as the frost goes out of the ground, we plan to do that work. This 2-inch main was installed in the Country Club area in 1923. If you have any specific questions after reading this rather lengthy explanation, please let me have them and I will try to answer them. Sincerely yours, Warren C. Hyde,. Village Manager. 1471 March' 18, 1959. MEMO. TO a Ben Woehler We must find a better way to flush hydrants than to wash out the streets and boulevards. This is not,the first instanced In this particular case, try to work it into the storm sewer catch basins',, which I think are relatively close. - If necessary9 let's build some metal deflection shutes and.try to.- eliminate complaints which are justified. Warren C. Hyde, Village Manager .'. WCH aB CC: LeRoy Libby March 1Ds,1959 1.1r. 06 L. Johnson, 9204 Jest 61st Streets Edina 24s flinnosote.. Agar Mr. Johnson., _ l Thank you for calling our attontion to the problem created by our practice of flushing the hydrant on porter Lane and Code Avenue. The Water Dopartment has found that unless the hydrant -Is opened as far as -it can be openeds the flushing does not remove all of the iron particles. Vhen a fire hose Is attached to the hydrants the hydrant cannot bo completely opened. _ I have instructed the Later Department to attempt to find some other solution to the problem at Poster -Lane and Code Avenue and we will do some flushing in the future with fire hose and will attempt to sun It into'nearby storm fewer basins. L.e hope that some time in the near future there.will be sufficient development'and demand to secure the blacktopping of,Porter Lane.- -Thi€o of courses would re- move.-much of the problem, I ate sorry that the Water Department hoe not given you full satin- faction previously. Your letter did not detail just whom you had asked for consideration. If you.care too I would appreciate knowing more of the details. In your last paragraph you asked about whet vie Intend to -do about the drainage Into the property from.,all of the surrounding areas. A storm sewer system is'in.place, which was-.designed to control the levels in•the ponds and to accommodate the run-off. The storm sewer goes from Porter Lane through Eirchcrest Lake and then to the pond south- west and then from that pond through"a -storm smier along the railroad tracks to Wine Mile Crook south of Vtilay View road.. The stoma steer. systems of courses will not function completely efficiently until all of the-streets are surfaced, There will-be considerable blacktoppi.ng in your area this summer as a.result of petitions having been filed last year. If you havo-any specific questions on the storm drainago or particular problemss I will be happy to go into them.with you. CCo Ben Woehler Sincerely yours, Lee Libby ,arren C. Hyde. Village Manager. iT;H :8 March 103 1959 Mr. Warren Hyde Village Manager Edina, Minnesota i Dear Sir: We have a lake called Birchcres;t, which borders on the rear of our property. A road, Porter Lane, runs along side of the lake and parallel to our lot. Porter Lane is not a surfaced road. Because of the extreme drainage coming from a good many areas , the washed material from Porter Lane is filling up the end of th6: lake. This creates a very unsightly and dangerous situation. In addition to the natural drainage, the Edina Waterworks flushes the hydrant on Porter Lane and Code', Avenue. This is even worse then the natural drainage in washing sand, gravel, etc., down into the lake. This is because of the pressurelcreated by the hydrant. On a number of occasions I haveiasked the Water Department if they could utilize a hose and save all the wash. To date I have received no consideration. I would appreciate it if you would look into this matter. I do not believe this to be an unwarranted request. I would also like to know what the village intends to do regarding the drainage into this property !from all of the surrounding areas. Yours truly, G /r Johnson 5204 West 61st Street Minneapolis 24, Minnesota �' �vpjvYµ �'"`'� ��'�/WLu,•tJ� ``�W� - V � J � �?n `r �'/'i/�v� Y 'Y V "FOR YOUR ASSURANCE HAVE OUR INSURANCE— CARL A. CLIFFORD QUIST INSURANCE OF ALL RINDS LIFE HOSPITALIZATION, ACCIDENT AND HEALTH FIRE, TORNADO, WINDSTORM, PUBLIC LIABILITY, WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION AUTOMOBILE LIABILITY AND PROPERTY DAMAGE REPRESENTING OLD RELIABLE WELL RATED COMPANIES 6037 ZENITH AVENUES. MINNEAPOLIS 10..,MINN. PHONE: WA. 6 -6033 FEHR.UARY,l6th.l9! ADKMISTUTM CUICES. ANSWERING YOUR LETTIER OF EDINA VILLAGE. .ATT :WATER. DEPT. 1801 MST 50th.STREST. MPLS. 24* MINN • Gentlemena. Last Friday I called your pfficesthe water dept.and called there attention to the real Dark &vwn water that we where getting thru our Main along Zenith Avenue„ I have called your office a number of times on this water.conditi Cannot this be trouble be remedied. It sure is provoking to have this condition coming up so often. Is it that this is the only area that has this trouble or is it general thru Edina. Waiting your commss in this matter and hoping this trouble can be done away with* ThmAing yon for vors s own am$ Veps G,.atefullp Yoars February 139 1939 - faro V. H. Pic Intyde9 5000 Bruce Avenue9'J Edina 24, Minnesota, Dear Mr. McIntyre a Yhank you for your check in the amount of $6.139 together with - letter of i. February► 49 which derails `�oudi' reasoning why you feel you should pay -only A minimum monthly charge of 51.00. ,1 have carefully zavlowed -your account and ` the problem and I beg to dot'fer with .your e49 ihat . I do not agree that_ the check you,senn pays your account. Your meter had al-,Do stoppod in Fe y of -1957 and'at that time we made - minor ropairs bvy repsCoking it and aelinIng t!%e gears. The bill for the period ending February 39 19679 was $6.76; ;,which you paid.., It may be that you did not occupy the prwises at that time. Our accounts azo i;ept by-address rather than by nerve. I can certainly see your point. that you ;feel you should: pay the r.un r= bill because of the decrease in the silo of your family and the fact, that an auto- matic washing machine was out of orddr. RX- 1rfor, I r=ust point out that vie- incurred costa of 177.68 of which $4.31 was mat-terlal in repagrinq_ %cur meter, and under the oxdi:nance, a strict Anterpretation cmid all.owl ue to bill you for that amount. For sorno reason umkno t1 to me& uaatear meters a.mst 'universal- ly in most cities are considexsd - the property of tho Water, user rathor than of the utility, as 4s the practice in gat utilitlort. Aleos. moSt cities} while keeping the right to ansist,on the aetere being In proper operating condition, have tiro right to repair them and charge-tho-custumv or even to ccrdew. the meter and put in a brand . new one at tho cost of some $25 to 330. E':e have not nomally changed for meter repairs a W instead:t . have done in many instances Just what we did in,your case. Cie bill.for the nowal usage during the similar quarter when a motor has stopped.s 'rather than applying the minims charge, but we do not bill for the cost of the meter repair. Your, complaint on this was actually the first one I have had come to my attention and Y am sure ycu %dil agree that it Is cheaper to pay for the average billing rather than to pay for'the repairs. If you continue to insist upon this„ then we shall have no other altexrative.but to start.chesging everybody for motor repairs and adopting your thoory on the minU m charge. The amount Is relatively small and perhaps you are coneidering it more a8 a principal then an aMDunt. . � �� i - Sa r